Trump Indicted!

[Sommerswerd]

The only Republicans who could possibly take the nomination away from Trump are The Rock and Tom Brady.

 

[Takhisis]

This will hurt Obama politically.

 

[Birdjaguar]

If DeSantis flounders and Trump hamstrung by the courts, who is left?

 

[Remorseless1]

Mike "The Fly" Pence?
Nuck-nuck Tuck Carlson?
Mike Lindell aka The Pillow Guy?
Scary Kari Lake?
Margory Taylor Greenback?
Mad Matty Gaetz?

Anyone see anyone on that list that has a chance in Hades of winning a national election?

 

[Takhisis]

Don't count Sarah Palin out.

 

[Gori the Grey]

If DeSantis flounders and Trump hamstrung by the courts, who is left?

The answer to this is Trump, just in the sense that Trump zealots will never regard him as being "hamstrung by the courts," no matter what he's indicted for or even convicted of. And there's enough of them to make him the Republican nominee, over anybody else that who is running or likely to run. But then, as JR says a page back, that will result in Trump losing almost no matter how unpopular Biden becomes.

If everyone in the party simultaneously came to their senses, they could move forward with Nikki Haley. She's a perfectly viable pre-Trump-style Republican candidate, and has the appeal over Biden of being young. But Trump supporters are out of their senses, so this won't happen.

It is a cult of personality. They like him and only him. The good news is that, for the next twenty years, Republican voters will not be satisfied with any candidate they put up, because . . . well, he's no Trump. Them was the good old days, when we had Trump.

 

[Lexicus]

The good news is that, for the next twenty years, Republican voters will not be satisfied with any candidate they put up, because . . . well, he's no Trump.

Eh, I wouldn't be too sure of this. We wouldn't have seen Trump coming in like 2013, 2014, and God only knows what's coming down the Republican pipeline now...

 

[Broken_Erika]

Eh, I wouldn't be too sure of this. We wouldn't have seen Trump coming in like 2013, 2014, and God only knows what's coming down the Republican pipeline now...

 

[Gori the Grey]

Eh, I wouldn't be too sure of this. We wouldn't have seen Trump coming in like 2013, 2014, and God only knows what's coming down the Republican pipeline now...

Well, what you say is true, but among the reasons that I nevertheless feel confident in my prediction is that the various people in the pipeline will themselves think that they have to duplicate Trump--be Trump-lite, or Trumpesque, or the next Trump, or New Trump, in any case, to go after the Trump voter. And, first, I don't think people know which traits to imitate in Trump, which ones really make him Trump, so they'll go after the wrong things. Second, none of them will be able to pull off the key things with any real feeling of authenticity. For one thing Trump is a true pathological liar; most people aren't, and it's not something you can fake or do half-way. There are people who do Elvis impersonations, and some Elvis fans enjoy those for what they are, but if some musician after Elvis had tried to say, "hey, I'm the new Elvis," some Elvis fans might like that person as a musician, but all Elvis fans would say "no, you're not, no fanatic following for you." These demagogues arise whenever they do, cause what damage they do, then once they're gone, their whole following deflates. They catch a mood. Trump caught a mood.

I'm going to try to still be alive in 20 years, and posting here, so if you are too, we can revisit this and see how sound my prediction proved to be.

 

[IglooDame]

Mike "The Fly" Pence?
Nuck-nuck Tuck Carlson?
Mike Lindell aka The Pillow Guy?
Scary Kari Lake?
Margory Taylor Greenback?
Mad Matty Gaetz?

Anyone see anyone on that list that has a chance in Hades of winning a national election?

No, but Nikki Haley and John Sununu both could. Sadly, they can't beat Trump in the primary.

And as far as prison time hurting his chances, I feel obligated to remind everyone that Adolf Hitler went to prison for a while and see what happened there.
I'm not worried about Trump winning a fair election, I'm worried about the election deniers that have wormed their way into local and state election administration positions that can throw enough sand in the gears to semi-legitimize more post-election hijinks in 2024, or the Senate tipping GOP and turning Biden into Dr Veto. Though one wonders how those promised impeachment proceedings are going, House?

 

[Kaitzilla]

Darned Old Ones.

Speaking of, Trump was deeply influenced by his mentor Roy Cohn, whose infinitely long wikipedia page indicates he helped put the band together for that memorable 2016.

Roy Cohn - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Several people have asserted that Cohn had considerable influence on the Presidency of Donald Trump, e.g. Ivy Meeropol, director of Bully, Coward, Victim: The Story of Roy Cohn said "Cohn really paved the way for Trump and set him up with the right people, introduced him to Paul Manafort and Roger Stone—the people who helped him get to the White House."[98] Where's my Roy Cohn? director Matt Tyrnauer told Esquire that he "was very aware of [Cohn's] relationship with Donald Trump and the fact that he had a huge influence on him. Having done a lot of research and now made a film, I think that that's actually understating it. I think Roy Cohn created a president from beyond the grave".[99]

If you listen carefully, his name pops up in the song "we didn't start the fire" by Billy Joel.

 

[Birdjaguar]

The jury has been selected in the Jean Carroll trial.

 

[choxorn]

If you listen carefully, his name pops up in the song "we didn't start the fire" by Billy Joel.

I think it's early in the second verse:

Roy Cohn, Juan Peron, Toscanini, Dacron,
Dien Bien Phu Falls, Rock Around The Clock

 

[Kaitzilla]

I think it's early in the second verse:

Right

The whole song is basically our Things that Make you Feel Old thread.

Here is the whole song with hyperlinks to every name, so just click on one to read about who or what they were.
The whole thing was done in chronological order I think.

https://genius.com/Billy-joel-we-didnt-start-the-fire-lyrics

This monster hit of a song was created in 1989, when Joel turned 40. The idea spawned from a conversation he had with a friend of Sean Lennon. The friend just turned 21 and was complaining about how crazy it was to be living in his era, therefore undermining any other time before his. This encouraged Joel to write a song that would prove that any time is filled with extremes.

Starting from 1949 (the year in which he was born), he chronicled the major events that occurred during that time in a rapid fire delivery of names, places, and cultural works.

These are his words on the subject:

"I started doing that as a mental exercise. I had turned forty. It was 1989, and I said, “Okay, what’s happened in my life? I wrote down the year 1949… It was kind of a mind game. [It’s] one of the few times I’ve written the lyrics first, which should be obvious to why I usually prefer to write the music first, because the melody is horrendous. It’s like a mosquito droning. It’s one of the worst melodies I’ve ever written. I kind of like the lyric though."

The last chorus is really nice:

We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
But when we are gone
It will still burn on, and on
And on, and on

Here he talks about why he mostly stopped making new music 25 years ago.

Why hasn't Billy Joel released new music for 25 years?

Billy Joel hasn't released a new album since 1993's River of Dreams, so does he plan on new music soon?

www.smoothradio.com

 

[Remorseless1]

No, but Nikki Haley and John Sununu both could. Sadly, they can't beat Trump in the primary.

And as far as prison time hurting his chances, I feel obligated to remind everyone that Adolf Hitler went to prison for a while and see what happened there.
I'm not worried about Trump winning a fair election, I'm worried about the election deniers that have wormed their way into local and state election administration positions that can throw enough sand in the gears to semi-legitimize more post-election hijinks in 2024, or the Senate tipping GOP and turning Biden into Dr Veto. Though one wonders how those promised impeachment proceedings are going, House?

Sadly, no to Haley. Too many jagoffs who won't vote for a women. One of the factors that cost Clinton in '16.

 

[Gori the Grey]

The first woman to be elected president in the US will be a Republican, though, I predict.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Jean Carroll testifies:

E. Jean Carroll Gives Emotional Testimony: 'Donald Trump Raped Me'

The writer reportedly gave measured and difficult testimony in her civil suit against the former president.

www.huffpost.com

 

[Sommerswerd]

The first woman to be elected president in the US will be a Republican, though, I predict.

No.

In related news... since he got the boot from FOX News, I'm starting to see articles calling for, or predicting that Tucker Carlson will run for the 2024 Republican Presidential nomination.

My hot take on this is twofold... 1) Tucker Carlson would not be interested in taking such a large pay-cut; and 2) Trump would make light work of him, especially with multiple other Republican politicians-proper in the race... although I suspect he could eclipse DeSantis.

 

[Birdjaguar]

I heard he made $20 million annually at Fox.

 

[Gori the Grey]

No.

Unfortunately on this one, I can't take the tack I took with Lex recently and say "well, let's wait and see." Because I don't think it's going to happen within my remaining twenty-odd years on this earth.

Tucker won't run for president. That prediction I should be alive to see come true.

I think Tucker's going to go the way of Beck and O'Reilly. He'll be pretty much a non-entity going forward.