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Trump nominated for Peace Prize.
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Zardnaar
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Mn I'm not 100% sure on this but I'm leaning towards it happening.
Hoover 2.0. No presidency 20 odd years, no house for 60.
Lohrenswald
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a bunch of imbeciles
Yeah, so I'm actually surprised that not every head of state is nominated.
There was also the satire-nomination of Hitler, but it was apparenlty cancelled (says wiki), so can't say that he was really nominated.
And a second nomination:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-second-nomination-for-nobel-peace-prize
Timsup2nothin
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By a second dingbat. Who would have expected that?
Zkribbler
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Trump leaves a trail of swamp scum over everything he touches.
No wonder his daughter won't date him. 
tuckerkao
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Both Al Gore and Barack Obama were nominated and earned the Nobel Peace Prize.
Interestingly the famous guy often turns out to be the final winner, the President of the United States is too popular to the world at times, thus has the advantage over other Nobel candidates.
Lohrenswald
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Obama shouldn't have, but you do probably know why he got it while trump won't
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We don't know whether Trump will get it or not at the moment. Trump has the power to manipulate and rig it.
Lohrenswald
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What do you think he can do
mitsho
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Obama got it for a denuclearization promise - that speech in Prague - which now doesn't look like much since Trump doesn't renew all those Russian-American bilateral treaties because... "China"? Which is a valid argument, but merely based on might. For a peace prize you would need to include them in these rocket treaties, not let the existing ones run out..
What I like about the nobel peace prize is that it can point an enormous spotlight on a before rather unknown project. And in the peace & security as well as in the environmental and developmental sphere, that can be a lot. So I was glad that Greta didn't get it last year, but honestly she would deserve it and Fridays for Future is a really impactful movement, just talk to a random 16-year old (at least around here).
What is the argument for Jacinda Ardern? She kept her two islands rather corona-free? Or that she balances being a young mother with being a politician so well? Both are admirable, but it would still feel like a "well, we couldn't think of anything better" - argumentation and thus not an ideal solution.
What I like about the nobel peace prize is that it can point an enormous spotlight on a before rather unknown project. And in the peace & security as well as in the environmental and developmental sphere, that can be a lot. So I was glad that Greta didn't get it last year, but honestly she would deserve it and Fridays for Future is a really impactful movement, just talk to a random 16-year old (at least around here).
What is the argument for Jacinda Ardern? She kept her two islands rather corona-free? Or that she balances being a young mother with being a politician so well? Both are admirable, but it would still feel like a "well, we couldn't think of anything better" - argumentation and thus not an ideal solution.
Zardnaar
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I'm a big Jacinda fan but yeah if she gets it it's a bit WTH.
You mother balancing. Her partner is stay at home dad and is well off and she gets something like half a million a year. She's not exactly slumming it.
And she gets free accommodation as well.
She seems popular overseas.
We elected a 37 yo pregnant unmarried women and she's on track to get reelected as our most popular PM ever.
You mother balancing. Her partner is stay at home dad and is well off and she gets something like half a million a year. She's not exactly slumming it.
And she gets free accommodation as well.
She seems popular overseas.
We elected a 37 yo pregnant unmarried women and she's on track to get reelected as our most popular PM ever.
mitsho
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Yeah, I know that she has it "easy" with child care. Still, it's an inspiring story that works so well for - well - the peace prize. I was more curious, since every nomination has to include a reasoning, what is the (most common) reasoning given for her? Nevermind I googled it, and it's her reaction to the Christchurch Shooting. Now, giving her the peace prize for that is even more of a rather clear sign towards the US Republicans that their politics isn't approved in the world. And it's actually quite good a reason, I can live with that (and Greta can get hers next year and then there will be a place available for some truly new person 
).
(and by the way, the reasonings for the two Trump nominations are well tenuous at best, and oh so political - but that alone has never been a problem for the noble peace prize committee)
).(and by the way, the reasonings for the two Trump nominations are well tenuous at best, and oh so political - but that alone has never been a problem for the noble peace prize committee)
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Nominations are more or less given out like candy, and actual winners are sometimes of dubious merit. Hard to derive meaning regardless of whether you like Trump.
I would give it posthumous to Stanislav Petrov
Is since long due
A soldier, not a politician, not an intellectual, who stopped singlehanded in all likelyhood a global nuclear disaster in 1983
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov
Is since long due
A soldier, not a politician, not an intellectual, who stopped singlehanded in all likelyhood a global nuclear disaster in 1983
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov
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Lohrenswald
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not allowed
Zardnaar
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Yeah, I know that she has it "easy" with child care. Still, it's an inspiring story that works so well for - well - the peace prize. I was more curious, since every nomination has to include a reasoning, what is the (most common) reasoning given for her? Nevermind I googled it, and it's her reaction to the Christchurch Shooting. Now, giving her the peace prize for that is even more of a rather clear sign towards the US Republicans that their politics isn't approved in the world. And it's actually quite good a reason, I can live with that (and Greta can get hers next year and then there will be a place available for some truly new person
(and by the way, the reasonings for the two Trump nominations are well tenuous at best, and oh so political - but that alone has never been a problem for the noble peace prize committee)
Yeah I remembered that after posting. There's a photo of her hugging families of the victims. They projected it onto a building in Dubai.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/chri...-building-lit-up-with-image-of-jacinda-ardern
I did not know that.
But I would make an exception to that general Nobel Prize rule for the peace prize.
Because of secrecies and confidentialities in the realm of war & peace, it takes often many years before we as public know what truly happened.
It's not science where the invention or discovery is in the public realm and known well ahead of all impacts that can be foreseen. It's not like literature where you write books that are published.
Perhaps as of now somebody stopped Trump by disabling a button a while ago... and we will not know about it until such info is freed from secrecy acts.
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