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[TSL] 40sw4rm's "Old World" 180x82

Discussion in 'Civ5 - Custom maps' started by 40sw4rm, Sep 1, 2014.

  1. 40sw4rm

    40sw4rm Chieftain

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    40sw4rm's "Old World" is a giant 178x82 Eastern Hemisphere map that provides TSL support for not only the base game civilizations/city states; but for over 100+ modded civilizations with realistic terrain to boot. There are currently three LUA versions of the map with the following random resource allocations: abundant, normal, and a blank map to be used in conjunction with the "Really Advanced Setup" mod for improved random resource allocation. There will be a realistic resource version of the map created at a later time.

    Because the map is a LUA script, there is no scenario loading and the map will fully support DLLs that alter the total amount of AI civilizations. This means the map will be able to allow for upwards of 63 civilizations to be played on the map with TSL support.

    Download: 40sw4rm's "Old World" @ Steam Workshop

    Current Supported TSL Civs
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    CIVILIZATION_ARABIA
    CIVILIZATION_ARGENTINA
    CIVILIZATION_AKKADIAN_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_ALBANIA
    CIVILIZATION_ANCIENT_LIBYA_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_ASSYRIA
    CIVILIZATION_AUSTRIA
    CIVILIZATION_AZERBAIJAN
    CIVILIZATION_AZTEC
    CIVILIZATION_BABYLON
    CIVILIZATION_BENIN_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_BLACKFOOTFIRSTNATION
    CIVILIZATION_BOHEMIA
    CIVILIZATION_BOSNIA
    CIVILIZATION_BUCCANEER
    CIVILIZATION_BURMA
    CIVILIZATION_BRAZIL
    CIVILIZATION_BRITTANY
    CIVILIZATION_BYZANTIUM
    CIVILIZATION_CANADA
    CIVILIZATION_CARIB
    CIVILIZATION_CARTHAGE
    CIVILIZATION_CELTS
    CIVILIZATION_CHAMPA_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_CHACHAPOYAS
    CIVILIZATION_CHIMU_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_CHINA
    CIVILIZATION_CHOLA
    CIVILIZATION_CHUKCHI
    CIVILIZATION_CLANISHINAABE
    CIVILIZATION_CL_AFGHANISTAN
    CIVILIZATION_CL_AUSTRALIA
    CIVILIZATION_CL_KULIN
    CIVILIZATION_CLZAPOTEC
    CIVILIZATION_COLONIALCANADA
    CIVILIZATION_CORDOBA
    CIVILIZATION_CORNWALL
    CIVILIZATION_CROATIA
    CIVILIZATION_DENMARK
    CIVILIZATION_DISCIPLES_OF_CHRIST
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_AFSHARID
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_ALGERIA
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_ARMENIA
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_BULGARIA_SAM
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_BYZANTIUM_BASIL_II
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_BYZANTIUM_JOHN_II
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_BYZANTIUM_JUSTINIAN_I
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_BYZANTIUM_MICHAEL_VIII
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_GEORGIA
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_KAZAKH
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_KHMER
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_KRUM_BULGARIA
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_SIM_BULGARIA
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_NEPAL
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_NORTHUMBRIA
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_ROMANIA
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_SASSANID
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_SELJUQ
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_SERBIA
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_SERBIA_PETER_I
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_SFRYUGOSLAVIA
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_TAIWAN
    CIVILIZATION_DJSH_UMAYYADS
    CIVILIZATION_EGYPT
    CIVILIZATION_ENGLAND
    CIVILIZATION_EORA
    CIVILIZATION_ERLITOU_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_ETHIOPIA
    CIVILIZATION_EVENKI
    CIVILIZATION_FINLAND
    CIVILIZATION_FINNS
    CIVILIZATION_FRANCE
    CIVILIZATION_GERMANY
    CIVILIZATION_GREATEREUROPE_GERMANY
    CIVILIZATION_GREECE
    CIVILIZATION_HITTITE_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_HARAPPA_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_HUNS
    CIVILIZATION_HYP_FINLAND
    CIVILIZATION_HYPEREON_SECONDFRANCE
    CIVILIZATION_ICENI
    CIVILIZATION_INCA
    CIVILIZATION_INDIA
    CIVILIZATION_INDONESIA
    CIVILIZATION_IRELAND
    CIVILIZATION_IROQUOIS
    CIVILIZATION_ISRAEL
    CIVILIZATION_JAPAN
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_AMERICA_LINCOLN
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_AMERICA_ROOSEVELT
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_ANGLO_SAXONS
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_ARMENIA
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_AUSTRIA_JOSEPH_II
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_BAVARIA
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_BELGIUM
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_BOHEMIA
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_BYZANTIUM_ALEXIOS
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_CARTHAGE_HANNIBAL
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_DENMARK_NORWAY
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_EGYPT_AKHENATEN
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_EGYPT_DJOSER
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_EGYPT_HATSHEPSUT
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_FLANDERS
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_FRANCE_DEGAULLE
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_FRANCE_LOUIS_XIV
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_FRANCE_NAPOLEON
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_GERMANS
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_GREAT_BRITAIN
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_HENRY_ENGLAND
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_HOLY_ROME
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_HUNGARY
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_ICELAND
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_ITALY
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_ITALY_VICTOR
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_JAPAN_MEIJI
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_JAPAN_TOJO
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_KHAZARIA
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_LITHUANIA
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_MILAN
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_MUSCOVY
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_NAZI_GERMANY
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_NEW_ZEALAND
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_NORMANDY
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_NOVGOROD
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_NORWAY
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_NRI
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_NICHOLAS_RUSSIA
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_PAPAL_STATES
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_POLAND_LITHUANIA
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_POLAND_PILSUDSKI
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_PRUSSIA
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_RUSSIA_ALEXANDER_I
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_RUSSIA_PETER
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_SARDINIA_PIEDMONT
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_SAXONY
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_SCOTLAND
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_SWITZERLAND
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_SWEDEN_GUSTAV
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_SWEDEN_KARL
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_SWEDEN_NORWAY
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_THE_FRANKS
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_THE_VANDALS
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_TURKS
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_TWO_SICILIES
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_UNITED_KINGDOM
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_USSR_LENIN
    CIVILIZATION_JFD_USSR_STALIN
    CIVILIZATION_JOMON
    CIVILIZATION_KANEM
    CIVILIZATION_KDMBOSNIA
    CIVILIZATION_KDMLITHUANIA
    CIVILIZATION_KHMER
    CIVILIZATION_KIEVAN_RUS_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_KONGO_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_KOREA
    CIVILIZATION_KORYAK
    CIVILIZATION_KUHIKUGU
    CIVILIZATION_KULINNATION
    CIVILIZATION_LATVIA
    CIVILIZATION_LEUGI_ISRAEL
    CIVILIZATION_LEUGI_PHILISTINE
    CIVILIZATION_LITE_AKKAD
    CIVILIZATION_LITE_SRI_LANKA
    CIVILIZATION_LITE_TARCISIO_PTOLEMIES
    CIVILIZATION_MARATHA
    CIVILIZATION_MAASAI
    CIVILIZATION_MALI_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_MAURYA
    CIVILIZATION_MAYA
    CIVILIZATION_MC_LITE_MOOR
    CIVILIZATION_MC_LITE_NUBIA
    CIVILIZATION_MC_ASHANTI
    CIVILIZATION_MC_AYYUBIDS
    CIVILIZATION_MC_CHINOOK
    CIVILIZATION_MC_GAUL
    CIVILIZATION_MC_KILWA
    CIVILIZATION_MC_MAKURIA
    CIVILIZATION_MC_MAORI
    CIVILIZATION_MC_MERCIA
    CIVILIZATION_MC_MINOA
    CIVILIZATION_MC_NARMER
    CIVILIZATION_MC_NAZCA
    CIVILIZATION_MC_PHOENICIA
    CIVILIZATION_MC_RAPA_NUI
    CIVILIZATION_MC_SCOTLAND
    CIVILIZATION_MC_SLAVS
    CIVILIZATION_MC_TIBET
    CIVILIZATION_MC_TONGA
    CIVILIZATION_MEXICO
    CIVILIZATION_MEXICOREPUBLIC
    CIVILIZATION_MIDIAN
    CIVILIZATION_MITANNI
    CIVILIZATION_MOLDAVIA
    CIVILIZATION_MONGOL
    CIVILIZATION_MONOMOTAPA
    CIVILIZATION_MONTENEGRO
    CIVILIZATION_MOROCCO
    CIVILIZATION_MUGHAL
    CIVILIZATION_NABATAEA
    CIVILIZATION_NANMADOL
    CIVILIZATION_NAVAJO
    CIVILIZATION_NETHERLANDS
    CIVILIZATION_NORTE_CHICO_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_NOK
    CIVILIZATION_NUBIA
    CIVILIZATION_OMAN
    CIVILIZATION_OTTOMAN
    CIVILIZATION_PAKISTAN
    CIVILIZATION_PAPUA
    CIVILIZATION_PARTHIA
    CIVILIZATION_PERSIA
    CIVILIZATION_PICTS
    CIVILIZATION_POLAND
    CIVILIZATION_POLYNESIA
    CIVILIZATION_PORTUGAL
    CIVILIZATION_ROME
    CIVILIZATION_RUSSIA
    CIVILIZATION_RYUKYU
    CIVILIZATION_SABA
    CIVILIZATION_SAFAVIDS
    CIVILIZATION_SAMI
    CIVILIZATION_SAMOYED
    CIVILIZATION_SELEUCID
    CIVILIZATION_SHOSHONE
    CIVILIZATION_SIAM
    CIVILIZATION_SIBIR
    CIVILIZATION_SIKH
    CIVILIZATION_SIOUX_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_THESIMBAPRIDELANDS
    CIVILIZATION_SONGHAI
    CIVILIZATION_SPAIN
    CIVILIZATION_SWEDEN
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_ALAN
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_AURELIAN_ROME
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_AUSTRIA_HUNGARY
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_BACTRIA
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_BOURBON_SPAIN
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_ETRUSCAN
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_ILKHANATE
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_HYKSOS
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_MASSAGETAE
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_PTOLEMAIC
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_SICILY
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_SONG
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_SUEBI
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_THE_IBERIANS
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_WW1_BULGARIA
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_WW1_OTTOMAN
    CIVILIZATION_TCM_XIONGNU
    CIVILIZATION_THECREEFIRSTNATION
    CIVILIZATION_TIMURIDS_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_TIMURIDE
    CIVILIZATION_TUSCANY
    CIVILIZATION_UYGHUR
    CIVILIZATION_VENEZUELA
    CIVILIZATION_VENICE
    CIVILIZATION_VIETNAM
    CIVILIZATION_VISIGOTHS_MOD
    CIVILIZATION_WALLACHIA
    CIVILIZATION_WALES
    CIVILIZATION_XIONGNU
    CIVILIZATION_YAKUTIA
    CIVILIZATION_YUPIK
    CIVILIZATION_ZULU


    Most current minimap: (10 Nov 15)


    Landscape album of the map loaded in game: Link

    Recommended mods for this map: Really Advanced Setup, whoward's 34 civ DLL

    Progress on this WIP:
    * World Outline: Complete 100%
    * Basic Terrain Map: Complete 100%
    * Elevation Map: 100%
    * River Map: 100%
    * Features Map: 100%

    * Realistic Resources: Still a WIP, coming soon.

    Initial release w/non-realistic resource placement will be on 11 Nov 2015.

    Genesis: (SDK Screenshot Gallery)
    Spoiler :




























     
  2. shocky27

    shocky27 Chieftain

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    Looking forward to this! Amazing work :)
     
  3. opal

    opal Chieftain

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    are you still working on this? the map looks awesome! :goodjob:
     
  4. bane_

    bane_ Howardianism High-Priest

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    Agreed. Why isn't this up for download?
     
  5. opal

    opal Chieftain

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    cannot believe that just we three of us are interested in this map. man this one has to go online! i want to play it so freaking badly! :crazyeye: its just perfect for playing it as the arabs

    please give us this piece of art, even its not finished yet. i can add rivers etc on my own. :D
     
  6. MAHRana

    MAHRana Warlord

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    Nice work!
     
  7. PKArrk

    PKArrk Chieftain

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    I'm really excited for this to come out. I'd love for some more teaser pics to come out as the map progresses!
     
  8. Gedemo

    Gedemo Cacique

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    Great map!!

    When do you think you 'll release it?
     
  9. GeneralSecura

    GeneralSecura Chieftain

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    Pretty damn cool map.
     
  10. 40sw4rm

    40sw4rm Chieftain

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    Glad to see there's been some positive interest generated in this! :)

    My apologies on a lack of updates on my part. I'm extremely busy with work lately (military/EPME courses right now). I'll be taking some leave in the next couple weeks though, so I'll be posting some updates/teasers on my updated product when I finally have the time to do so. I'll also go ahead and say that I’ll be aiming for an early release via Steam around mid-February or early March. It'll more than likely have randomized resources to accommodate this. However, I'll be aiming for a realistic resource placement map soon after.

    Feel free to recommend specific civilizations or minor civs (customs are easy to implement), always open to ideas.
     
  11. 40sw4rm

    40sw4rm Chieftain

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    I've updated the main post with some teaser images. You can see the city states of the Shimazu clan and Pyongyang in the images along with Korea and Japan (Matsumae Clan occupies Hokkaido which is out of shot). The screenshots are about 70 turns into a normal game just monitoring the progress and border growths of the two civilizations. I have to admit, I'm thoroughly impressed with it. Additionally, you can see my custom oasis feature for Biwa Lake. There will be other custom features implemented as well for other significant lakes of the world.

    This will be my last week of EPME too, so I'll be able to devote significantly more time towards developing Europe and the rest of the map after this week. I have a lot of ideas I want to test out in making that particular part of the world interesting game play wise.
     
  12. DoctorMcGann

    DoctorMcGann Emperor

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    Sweet, now Japan starts out with two natural wonders!
     
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    40sw4rm Chieftain

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    As far as yields, justifications for the +1 culture and +1 science yields were based on it being one of the world's oldest lakes, dating it back more than 4 million years and the amount of endemic species found in the lake. It also appears frequently in Japanese historical literature due to it's proximity to Kyoto making it significant enough to put into the map, in my opinion. As far as +4 food, it is a nice early start bonus, however, it'll still produce less than a grassland/river farm with fertilizer and civil service later in the game. :)

    I feel Japan is still pretty limited with it being unable to really expand beyond it's current location until Optics. I also intend on making Manchuria more of a strategic resource heavy location, so additional happiness resources are going to mainly have to come from south of its location (much further) or through trade. Korea is also going to be devastating to it's health once turtle ships come into play.

    EDIT: I plan on adding additional lake features like Loch Ness!
     
  14. PKArrk

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    Hey 40sw4rm, I noticed that there is a city-state right below the actual civilization of Japan. I was wondering if there was anyway to add something like a unification bonus where if you conquer city-states with the same culture as your civilization then you won't get as many warmonger points as you would normally.
     
  15. 40sw4rm

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    If it is possible, it's definitely beyond my modding skills. I really like the idea, though.

    In terms of progress, I finish my exams for EPME tomorrow. With that said, I should be devoting a lot more time and effort into completing this.

    I've also gone ahead and updated the main post with a screen shot of the main map and capitals placed for the playable civs. Due to the base game's limits of 22 civilizations, some civilizations that I would like to have included have unfortunately been left out. Some examples of civilizations left out include:

    Zulu: Thought process behind him is because of how large the map is, it didn't make sense to include him in southern Africa pretty much alone and by himself for the majority of the game.

    Rome: Left out due to how crowded I've made central Europe. Additionally, options for Rome to expand directly south into Africa were mediocre considering how much desert makes up the northern half of the continent. I will make that area a city-state cluster. I was also considering Venice with a city-cluster Rome, however, limitations in amount of players and the AI's handling of them (majority of the time) ruled that out.

    Greece: Would've been interesting, closeness to Ottomans/Byzantium and the city-states I'm including into the game would've made this very interesting. However, it's hard to justify putting them in over others with the player limitations.

    Babylon: I wanted to have them in there. I thought they had a very interesting starting area in between Persia and Arabia. However, I chose Ethiopia over them in order to prevent Arabia and Egypt from just having a free pass to expand into North Eastern Africa.

    NOTE: Russia is not in the screen shot, however, they are in the game. I overlooked placing them when I made this screenshot. :)
     
  16. Gedemo

    Gedemo Cacique

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    Lachlan Great Builder of Civs !

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    I would like to see screenshot of your Old World with all the entities not only the civs, but why not having Songhaï at least ?

    Just a question : what circa epoch the set of civs are from ?

    Will be a simple map finally ? I hope for it... Can run TSL Maps but not more ;-)

    Great map, how many religions at once ?
     
  18. 40sw4rm

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    The civilizations don't follow any specific era theme currently, it's more on what I felt would make for an interesting game. They will be easily editable to users who download the map, however-- so you could replace whoever you want. The map will also have two versions, one will have randomized resources, the other will be realistic and will require users to download the "More Luxuries" mod.

    There will be no limits on the religions as far as my map is concerned.
     
  19. 40sw4rm

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    Just wanted to get some opinions on the city states for eastern Asia so far. I have a screenshot of the WIP map in the spoiler tags:

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    I really think the inclusion of Wei, Wu, and Shu Kingdom city states will really compliment the Chinese UA if they decide to war for their cities. I also took an interesting choice with Japan. Land locking Kyoto and including an Edo city state that will also take Mt. Fuji. Korea can still play it peaceful but will have to deal with Pyongyang's borders. Ryukyu Kingdom (Okinawa) and Hong Kong are there for trade route partners if the players decide to war their closest city-state partners. I also think it's going to be really interesting with the Siamese probably vowing protection like crazy.
     
  20. opal

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    so...

    can i download your super-duper map today or do i have to wait much much longer? :D
     

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