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Turkey in europe

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Italian Celtic, Dec 17, 2007.

  1. Italian Celtic

    Italian Celtic real european

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    After millions of off-topics it's the time of an "Turkey in EU" thread and i want to expose some my questions

    1) what the adavanteges or the disadvantage ?

    2) why do so many people consider Turks and Arabs european ?

    3) if someone say "Russia can't enter in EU" he is an hero
    if someone say "Turkey can't enter in EU" he is a racist
    why?

    I would know in particular the opinion of European and Turks
     
  2. Quildavyr

    Quildavyr Man of sick jokes!

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    EU and Turkey simple..
    It doesnt work
     
  3. Pannonius

    Pannonius Reconquistador

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    Only a small part of Turkey is in Europe, and also a minority of population. And most of the people don't want to be in the EU, or consider themselves european.
     
  4. GinandTonic

    GinandTonic Saphire w/ Schweps + Lime

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    Associate membership. Free trade and unified standards but the fredom of movement and freedom of employment would open a can of worms right now.

    If we have a second tier of membership perhaps eventually the Israilies and the Lebanese could join. Make 'em do it togeather and (since their economies are overwelmingly pointed at Europe) see if the prospect of vast piles of cash can force 'em to play nice.

    This is not so much a philosophical point about the identity of Europe, but realpolitic about outcomes.

    Although since Celtic keeps on about his hatred for the UK I'm sure he doesnt give a monkies for my view.
     
  5. Italian Celtic

    Italian Celtic real european

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    Are you turkish or Greek?

    So am i not the only racist here? :mischief:

    YEA!!!



    My hatred for UK is direct consequence of some englishmen's hatred for Italy :)
     
  6. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    I don't think anyone here considers Arabs European.. :crazyeye:

    Unless you're talking about arabs living in Europe, of course.
     
  7. emzie

    emzie wicked witch of the North

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    They're both Caucasian.

    European is a culture, not a race.
     
  8. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    That was kinda my point.. except that 'European' can mean many things - it doesn't have to only be a cultural term.
     
  9. Disenfrancised

    Disenfrancised Beep Beep

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    Ah but the European superstaters won't like that at all ;).

    Indeed, I'm opposed to Turkey joining in the near future because it just has too many people (and stuff that needs funding) to be easily absorbed. Once Eastern Europe has been brought up to the level of the older countries then Turkey can start integrating.

    "They started it! Abloo bloo bloo"
     
  10. Italian Celtic

    Italian Celtic real european

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    and does a racial difference between arab/turk and europeans exist ?

    I started to hate english when i saw some of them saying things like "Those italian bastards" or "Those italian pigs" or "Those dirty italians" without a real reason

    but this is off-topic please return to thread
     
  11. Quildavyr

    Quildavyr Man of sick jokes!

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    I am turkish.My line is belonged to Oghus tribe and from the Ottoman palace.:)
     
  12. Pannonius

    Pannonius Reconquistador

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    Most of the Turks aren't european, because they don't live in Europe. People who think this is racism are racist themselves, they obviously think there is something wrong of not being a european.
     
  13. Quildavyr

    Quildavyr Man of sick jokes!

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    I think the half of population lives at european part.Only Istanbul have 18 or 19 million citizens.
     
  14. Italian Celtic

    Italian Celtic real european

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    Oghus line!!!!
    Are you good in archery on horse? (like ancient turks)

    This map clearly show the majoriy of turks are in Asia

    Orance is high populated
    Yellow is low populated
     
  15. Zenon_pt

    Zenon_pt Civing on the real world

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    I was wondering, when you will create this thread! :lol:
     
  16. Quildavyr

    Quildavyr Man of sick jokes!

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    I never tried it.:mischief: sorry!:)
    But i think i can do it,because i have swift hands,my accuracy never failed me,my balance is pretty well and my name is the same of the tribe.I can probably do it.;)


    The map seems weird to me.But I think the half of population are weird too.We have three more cities except Istanbul at Europa and they not big cities.It will not make 35 million citizens.You have right:) But it is sure 1/4 of population on Europa. My badly mistake.
     
  17. Benefactor

    Benefactor Beneficial

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    My hatred for Italy is a direct consequence of some Italians hatred for England.

    An Eye for an Eye and all that.

    > As far as the topic of Turkey in the EU goes, No, I'm not a fan of the idea.
    All the reasons have been listed before (To big, to different, to poor, etc.)
     
  18. philippe

    philippe FYI, I chase trains.

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  19. ArneHD

    ArneHD Just a little bit mad

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    Why is the concept of state linked to the concept of culture to begin with? Though it is a fair assumption (though wrong for all I know) that the state began as an extension of a group reach, there is no compelling reason why a state should be linked to any one culture. You might perhaps say that different cultures have different values, but at the fundamental level, laws should not be determined by culture, as I think they are now, logical extensions of the values of a given group or community. If this barrier can be crossed, a set of fundamental rules created and the state dissociated from individual cultures, a truly multicultural state becomes possible.
     
  20. Cheezy the Wiz

    Cheezy the Wiz Socialist In A Hurry

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    Turks are steppe people, they emigrated into Muslim lands in the 11-15th Centuries. They're more closely related to Mongols by ethnic lineage than they are Arabs or any Europeans.


    Son, people from every country say things like that about probably every country. It's a small percentage of the population, don't go hating all Englishmen because one or two insulted your homeland. If you feel the need to hate anybody, direct that towards ignorant individuals, not a people as a whole.
     

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