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Turn Chat Instruction Thread: 1630 AD, Wednesday 26 May, 17:30 GMT

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Game of Democracy IV' started by Furiey, May 24, 2004.

  1. Furiey

    Furiey No Longer Just Lurking

    Nov 18, 2003
    Bedfordshire UK
    Time: Wednesday 26 May, 17:30 GMT, 13:30 (1:30 PM) Eastern Time (that’s with daylight saving)
    Place: #turnchat
    Game Save: 1630 AD

    All officials who are empowered to post instructions for the upcoming turn chat are to do so here. All instructions must be posted at least one hour before the turn chat to be valid.

    This is not a discussion thread

  2. Black_Hole

    Black_Hole Deity

    Jan 4, 2004
    Instructions for the Province of Burgundy(Province #9) - 1630AD

    Build Queues:

    Camelot: Maintain Current Production
    Grindelwald: Switch to Granary
    Desseche: Maintain Current Production
    Steal Rubber: Maintain Current Production
    Brieux: Maintain Current Production
    Happy City:Maintain Current Production
    Russka: Maintain Current Production
    Jedina: Switch to Granary
    Arterus: Maintain Current Production
    Broussard: Maintain Current Production

    Hire Entertainers as nessecary to stop civil disorder.(Use Scientists First)
    Camelot: None
    Grindelwald: None
    Desseche: None
    Steal Rubber:None
    Brieux: None
    Happy City: None
    Russka: None
    Jedina: None
    Arterus: None
    Broussard: None

  3. tao

    tao Deity

    Aug 15, 2002

    New Falcon's heaven: work 2SE instead of 2SW; work 2NE instead of WSW
    Vandelay: put clown on 2NE, taxman on NNW

    Build Queues
    Vandelay: Intelligence Agency, tanks
    Cijam: tanks
    St. Octaviansburg: bombers
    Raven's Flight: research lab, cruise missiles
    New Falcons Heaven: switch to carrier, carrier, destroyers
    Cabaret Voltaire: airport, bombers
    Ooligaria: tanks
    Internal: tanks
    New Morgana: bombers
    Sharkeygrad: harbor, cruise missiles
    Kadessa: factory, police station
    special instructions once we learn synthetics
    please switch all tank building to modern armor

    standing wishes
    clean up pollution ASAP; work the tile again afterwards

    worker actions in Audiac
    pollution clearing

    worker joining cities
    Sharkeygrad: 1
    Raven's Flight: 1

    Rush Jobs

    none; nada; zilch; forget it; don't even think about it!
  4. Curufinwe

    Curufinwe Socialist Elf

    Feb 9, 2002
    I'd like to request the worker in WSW Sanction (outside my authority) to be moved so that a worker in Groton can be placed in that city NNE, as that would lead to an overall benefit to each city. I hope the Govenror for Sanction will concur.

    Build Queues
    Rubanovka- colloseum, cathedral, harbor, mech infantry, mech infantry, mech infantry etc.
    Groton- Research Lab, Mass Transit System, Mech Infantry, Tank, Mech Infantry, Tank, etc. repeating back and forth
    Grand Bricolage-Colloseum, Mech Infantry, Research Lab, Mech Infantry, Mech Infantry, etc.
    Sambhava- Bank, Hospital, Tank, Mech Infantry, etc. repeating back and forth
    Mure-Bomber, Research Lab, colloseum, Bomber, Bomber, etc.
    Exile- Temple, courthouse, University, Factory
    Oldenburg-University, colloseum, Mech Infantry, Cathedral, Mech Infantry, Mech Infantry, etc.

    Rush Jobs
    There are none requested as of this time, the MIA or a citizen poll are free to act as if they had my consent if they desire to rush something.

    I do not desire any drafting done in my cities. If the Judiciary should decide that another has the right to do so, then they shall do so. If any drafting does occur, all military units are to be considered deleted from teh queues. If my queues are too short, add in city improvements.

    Special Orders:
    If any city has an unhappy person at any time, switch the build queue immediately to either a colosseum, a temple or a cathedral until unhappiness ceases. This includes unhappiness caused by drafting. In the even that military units are needed, the Minister for Defense may change any and all unit production, and unit production alone, to a different unit. Improvements are to be leaved untouch unless a citizen poll votes for change.
  5. Stuck_as_a_Mac

    Stuck_as_a_Mac Aptenodytes forsteri

    Apr 4, 2002
    MIA Instructions
    Go crazygonuts. Take no prisoners, in terms of cities, unless there is a wonder in that city. Other then that, raze like your life depended on it. (for those of us that are paperpushers, this applies only to nonFanatican cities, not to Fanatican)

    Also: Vandelay is to build the Intel. Agency.

  6. Bootstoots

    Bootstoots Deity Retired Moderator

    Mar 2, 2003
    FA instructions
    Peace Treaties: Once you declare war, stay at it! No peace treaties may be signed.

    Rights of Passage, Military Alliances, Mutual Protection Pacts, and Trade Embargoes: Who needs these when we're about to overrun the last two nations on earth? Don't sign any.

    War Declarations: Completely up to the DP! :D

    Tribute Demands: Before war is declared, the way we handle tribute demands is completely up to the DP. After war is declared, these shouldn't be an issue. ;)

    Territory Incursions: Please monitor territory incursions, and try to block the route of Settlers that try to cross our territory. If territory incursions occur, please report on them during the chat. Do not request or demand that troops leave our territory unless you wish to declare war on their respective civs (and use their declarations to get inverse war weariness).

    Espionage: If we get the Intelligence Agency, do plant spies but only when we are already at war with the target civ. Relay information about their military to us in the chat.
  7. truckingpete

    truckingpete On a Stark Trek

    Oct 25, 2003
    North Dakota, USA
    1630 AD TC Instructions for Trade and Tech:

    Research in the order:
    Synthetic Fibers (4 turns)
    Space Flight


    NONE, zip, zilch, notta, nope, nothing here

    Note: Might not be able to make it to the TC...will have to see...

    *:nuke: Nukes here we come!! :nuke:*
  8. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

    Feb 10, 2002
    If you see an order such as "continue rebasing/building up", it refers to the origanal instruction, and should be done for each turn. There should be 3 carriers that are built, of which will go towards Samaria. If more are built, great, more bombers for those carriers. (If the governors of Ville du Buisson and Anarchy don't post instructions, feel free to switch those cities to carriers now. They will take 4 turns, and will be the closest to the southern invasion point). Also, once the tank stack has reached its' tank quota (30 to 32 tanks - shouldn't be too long), continue airlifting tanks, and mechs to the other continent. Mechs can be continuously airlifted prior.

    Turn 0 -

    1 - Move the tanks from the Greek/Egyptian Island onto the mainland, and group with the tanks near Villa Park.
    2 - Move the artillery that's near the former Babylonian land area near the Villa Park Tank Brigade (stack).
    3 - Move all artillery tanks and cavs on the other continent into groups (i.e., groups of 25).
    4 - Move all infantry on the other continent into cities with barracks.
    5 - Move all Mech Inf so that you have 1 Mech per city.
    6 - Move all workers towards the chokepoint (this is a special danger bulliten from the Military Department, as barbs will be unleashed very soon).
    7 - Send Mechs to defend workers that are stuck in the middle of nowhere.
    8 - Rebase the bombers in Tlateloco before abandoning the city - they will vanish if you don't, and move them to New Hlobane.
    9 - Cities of Tlaxcala, Tlateloclo, Tamuin, Tzintzuntzen, Calixtlahuaca, and Tepexpan are no longer needed for military purposed. Raze them and redistribute any remaining mechs. (Remember that Teotihuacan stays).
    10 - There are ships and a transport by the Persian island. Keep them there until next turn.
    11 - Move the carrier in New Falcon's Haven to the tile 3 south of Samaria.
    12 - Have the ironclad 3 south of Samaria fortify there.
    13 - Have the destroyer between Samaria and Anarchy go to the tile 3 south of Samaria and fortify.
    14 - All other ships may be used for patrol and continue to approach Zulu lands, and Persian lands from the south (especially around Samaria and other coastal cities).
    15 - Rebase the bomber in New Falcon's Haven onto the carrier that just left.
    16 - There are 5 transports near Anwerp. Have them meet up with the fortified transports by Villa Park. (The transports should be 1 north of the current tank stack).

    Turn 1 -

    1 - Move the tanks on the Persian island into the transport, and move those ships to Happy City (this will take 2 turns).
    2 - With mechs, patrol the empty area (on rails) for barb camps.
    3 - If the DP wishes, they may use a mech or two to escort workers to build roads and rails.
    4 - Continue to stack artillery and tanks where the current artillery and tank stacks are on the mainland.
    5 - Continue rebasing bombers onto the carrier. Any extra bombers should be rebased to New Hlobane.
    6 - Continue Barb Farming.

    Turn 2 -

    1 - The transport and escort from the Persian island arrive. Have the tanks unload, and all units fortify in Happy City.
    2 - Continue stacking the tanks and artillery, as well as airlifting bombers onto carriers (the carriers must be out at sea for the rebasing to work properly).
    7 - Continue Barb Farming.

    Turn 3 -

    1 - Continue the build up as mentioned.
    2 - Continue Barb Farming.

    Turn 4 -

    1 - Continue the build up, and barb farming.
    2 - Start upgrading. Only upgrade the tanks in Villa Park so that they have a head start.

    Turn 5 -

    1 - Upgrade all tanks (they take priority), or as many as you can, even if they're elite. Remember not to upgrade ones that are still healing.
    2 - If the tanks in Happy City were upgraded, move that transport fleet (with the Modern Armor loaded) back to the Persian island.
    3 - Continue barb farming with mechs.

    Turn 6 -

    1 - Unload the transport fleet by the Persian island on the two unclaimed territory tiles (4 MA each).
    2 - Upgrade any remaining tanks, and then infantry.
    3 - Barb Farm with available Modern Armor, making them elite if possible.
    4 - Prepare the Gauntlet as shown in the bottom graphic.
    5 - Create 2 Mech Inf armies with vet mechs.

    The yellow tiles are where to place troops. Place 3 tank armies on the southern yellow tiles. 1 in New Hlobane, 1 west of the city, and one east of the city. Place Mech Inf on all yellow tiles (3 each on the tank army tiles if possible). You can also bridge the gap in the 2 Northeastern-most tiles with mechs. Place tank stacks on all 3 tiles west of New Swazi. Place artillery there as well. Please upload the save before declaring war so that I can inspect the troops. Also, make sure that the chokepoint is clear, and that we have a few undefended cities FAR to the south on the main island. There should be a clear path. This is the lure. It's highly recommended to declare war on both Persia and the Zulus at this time.

    Turn 7 -

    1 - Watch the invasion force, and take a bunch of pretty pictures. :)
    2 - Bombard with bombers first, then artillery. Attack, but do not block the chokepoint.
    3 - The tanks, mechs, and artillery by Villa Park should be ready (if there's not enough, wait 1 more turn).

    a - 2 transports will hold 16 artillery.
    b - 4 transports will hold up to 32 Modern Armor.
    c - 1 transport will hold 2 Mech Inf armies. (The AI won't touch 'em! :D)
    d - 1 transport is a Christmas Present for the DP. The DP may put in what they please.

    4 - If we have enough, set sail this turn. If not, set sail next turn.

    Note: If we have more carriers than expected, but short on artillery, 1 artillery boat can be delayed, allowing the invasion to move fowards.

    5 - Attack the 2 cities on the Persian Island.
    6 - Move the Destroyers, Ironclads, transports, and carriers to the tile 1 south of Samaria.
    7 - Continue to bombard Samaria with planes and artillery every turn until the invasion starts (we will wait 1 turn even though the stack is there).

    Turn 8 -

    Note: The first wave of the invasion may start here. If you see any roads in future war paths (based on the red lines), please rail them.

    1 - This is the 2nd turn of the War of Attrition.
    2 - Continue to attack any remaining troops.
    3 - Focus on the Persian cities first, then Zulu cities. (if we have enough troops to attack with).
    4 - Follow the warplan with the red arrows. (the sole blue city in the south is optional this turn).
    5 - There's a cluster of cities that are really close together. Artillery will be very useful here.
    6 - Only keep cities that border Persia and the Zulus so that we can invade quicker. If they no longer touch a border, then abandon the city (unless it holds a wonder).
    7 - If there's tanks left over, prepare any tanks for the blue routes. (some blue routes don't reach a city).

    8 - Unload the southern force on the hill 1SE of Samaria with 1/2 of the total modern armor and mechs (do not unload the artillery).
    9 - Unload the 2nd half of the invasion force of 16 MA, and mechs 1 each of Zohak.
    10 - Load the MA that were on the island, onto the transports, and take them to a coastal city on the other continent. They will join up with the rest of the attack force.

    Turn 9 -

    Depending on how things go, start bombarding Samaria with bombers, then artillery from 1 artillery boat if needed. Attack Zohak with artillery, and any left over bombers. Remember to bombard atleast any cities over size 13. Use artillery to bombard cities if you can. Follow the paths shown. (Note that the right side dark red path should take priority on the south side, and move north if possible. It's possible that other tanks could meet up with it). Abandon cities that are no longer needed (and not touching the AI border). You may keep New Tegula.

    Please attack according to the warplans below.

    Persian/Zulu Warplan (warning - huge file!!!!).


    Red Route - This is the "turn 1 route", which could be started early.
    Dark Red Routes - These are southern invasion routes. I'm not sure how successful they will be, so I left the colored boxes in place.
    Blue Route - "Turn 2 route".
    Light Blue Route - "Turn 3 route".
    Green Route - "Turn 4 route".
    Yellow Route - "Turn 5 route".
    Dotted Lines - "Oppurtunistic Routes" if we have enough troops, or have done enough damage.
    The transparent tiles are resources. Notice that a lot of them are clustered around the interior "light blue" cities. These should be a primary target (to take these cities).

    Remember, only keep cities that "punch into" the Persian/Zulu border. Also, build rails in order to get to the next city quicker. There should be ample workers now.

    If you have any questions during the turnchat, ask me. Also, provide me with constant updates (game saves and screenies). Instructions may change depending on the outcome of battles. If we are extremely lucky (the RNG shines favor upon us!), this war could take 2-3 turns after we start the invasion. If our tanks wish to lose to spears, then it make take longer, even up to 12 turns. Remember that the 3 carriers, 8 transports, destroyer, ironclad, and any other ship will remain 1 north of the stack of tanks next to Anarchy. These will go to the tile 3SE of Samaria during the turn that we declare war, but will not land until 2 turns later when the majority of Persian forces have been defeated. Don't forget this 1/3 of the invasion force! ;)

    I will be home a bit earilier tomorrow, at approx. 4:45pm or so.
  9. DaveShack

    DaveShack Inventor Retired Moderator

    Feb 2, 2003
    Arizona, USA (it's a dry heat)
    I've been preoccupied with a family emergency so didn't look at the save this time. If any part of these instructions do not match reality the DP is free to modify that part to something which can actually be done. :D

    Deux Rivieres
    Battlefield Medicine (this was mentioned in the MIA thread but not the MIA instructions) if it is not already built / being built somewhere else, then Arty if they can be done in 1 turn or tanks if arty can't be done in 1 turn. (minimize waste)

    Huntington Tanks

    Vo Mimbre Bombers

    Santa Lucia Arty

    Antillia IIRC something long-running is still in the queue and won't finish this TC. Arty if it's not full

    Kobayashi City Should be some turns left on a market. After that finishes, build the first thing in this list that it doesn't already have: Library, Aqueduct (if not on fresh water and approaching size 6), Factory, Hospital (if already size 9 or more), Airport. If none of the preceeding is needed / feasible then arty.

    Liebling Finish whatever building, then arty

    Montpellier Tanks

    Bootsville Finish current build, Airport if it doesn't have one, tanks.
  10. Rik Meleet

    Rik Meleet Top predator Retired Moderator

    Apr 11, 2003
    Nijmegen Netherlands
    Keep researching Synthetic Fibres at high speed (but lower if you can).

    When we've learned that tech, set science to 0%, if you can hire a scientist somewhere.
    If you can't hire a scientist anywhere (for legal or practical reasons), set science to 10%.

    When all cashrush-requests have been forfilled, please increase the science-slider to 30%/40%/50% (or more) whichever it gives us the best setting in the DP's eyes.

    Increase the lux-slider if WarWeariness breaks out or if our citizens get unhappy for a different reason.

    Cashrushes / Upgrading
    When we've learned Synt Fib, upgrade tanks to Modern Armor. Do this ASAP.
    After all tanks have been upgraded, upgrade all Infantry units to Mech Inf.
    When you have the possibility, upgrade 3 captured cannons to Artillery.

    Worker actions
    Build rails NNW of Hlobane, and N2NW of Hlobane

    more to come later
  11. donsig

    donsig Low level intermediary

    Mar 6, 2001
    Rochester, NY
    City            Current queue
    Almaren           (mech?) infantry
    Amphi             (mech?) infantry
    Avon Nova         (mech?) infantry
    Berlingueria      (mech?) infantry
    Desolatem         (mech?) infantry
    Finklewink        (mech?) infantry
    Kazas             (mech?) infantry
    Norwich           (mech?) infantry
    Sandy             harbor 
  12. Furiey

    Furiey No Longer Just Lurking

    Nov 18, 2003
    Bedfordshire UK
  13. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

    Feb 10, 2002
  14. Furiey

    Furiey No Longer Just Lurking

    Nov 18, 2003
    Bedfordshire UK
  15. Rik Meleet

    Rik Meleet Top predator Retired Moderator

    Apr 11, 2003
    Nijmegen Netherlands
    Sorry, but the Chatlog p1 is empty.
  16. Furiey

    Furiey No Longer Just Lurking

    Nov 18, 2003
    Bedfordshire UK
    Very strange - I have re-uploaded the file - don't know what happened there, the zip file my end was ok...
  17. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

    Feb 10, 2002
  18. Furiey

    Furiey No Longer Just Lurking

    Nov 18, 2003
    Bedfordshire UK
    Turnchat Summary – 1630 AD – The Beginning of the End

    Last time we destroyed the Aztecs, leaving Persia our closest rivals and the Zulus blocking our path to victory. We start in a brief period of peace, but it won’t last long!

    1630 AD – Preturn

    There is much to do, queues are set and troops are gathered, and most of the remaining Aztec Cities are abandoned after selling all the improvements for gold. We abandon Tzintuntzen, Tamuin, Tlatelolco, Tepexpan and Tlaxcala. The area changed from this:

  19. Furiey

    Furiey No Longer Just Lurking

    Nov 18, 2003
    Bedfordshire UK
    to this:

    Barbarians here we come!

    Some workers were joined as requested in Raven’s Flight and Sharkeygrad as requested, then try and keep the rest occupied! We search the tundra in southern Aztec and find a barbarian camp – an easy victory for 2 Mech Infantry and 25 gold for the coffers.

    End of Turn 0, 70% science, Synthetic Fibres in 4, 2533 gold, 133 gpt.
  20. Furiey

    Furiey No Longer Just Lurking

    Nov 18, 2003
    Bedfordshire UK
    1635 AD – Turn 1

    Shaka doesn’t like our workers in his territory and asks us to leave – we will soon


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