I agree KISS will not be winning anytime soon and just making them go join TNT on the side lines would not be that hard, but conquering them I don't think is a solution we should be considering now. I don't see the means to the end, the only reason I see to ever attack them is if we were so close to domination or conquest that it would be the thing to do to end this game. As killercane said they are at war and from my conversations with Whomp it sounds like they are in this for the long hall and there will not be peace anytime soon if ever. In their message they were happy they built a third Cav, they have said that once they feel relativily secure they would start to send us lump sums of money to keep our research going. Their workers are also good where they are because we don't have to pay for them and they work at full speed. Our main focus is MIA currently, I can't see a need to pull any Cav away from our empire and espically our core even for a short trip (1 turn short after the railroad) to KISSland.