Tuskagee Syphalis Experiments

[VoodooAce]

Did this actually happen?

I've heard of them before, but never anything specific.

What's the deal? Were they infected by the government or were they already infected?

What I heard today was that, in 1932, as study was begun to follow 399 black males with syphilis. Steps were taken to insure that each only recieved medical attention from those involved. At which time they were given aspirin.

The study apparently was haulted in 1970 because of media exposure.

I find this hard to believe because I would think I'd have heard much more about it were it true. But the guys I was talking to here at work (that's my source....guys at work ) seemed pretty certain that it DID happen.

Help? Info?

 

[allhailIndia]

My friend you seem to have fallen for an Urban Legend

 

[VoodooAce]

Originally posted by allhailIndia
My friend you seem to have fallen for an Urban Legend

Is that so?

I'm curious as to why you were so quick to dismiss this.

Fact is, this story is true. Fact is, the US government IS capable of this kind of thing, afterall.

The answer to my question, "Did they infect them?" is no. But from what I've been able to find, the rest is fact.

A few sources...the CDC, The Uinversity of VA and CNN:

http://hsc.virginia.edu/hs-library/historical/apology/

http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/od/tuskegee/

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9705/16/nfm.tuskegee/

 

[VoodooAce]

Hhhmmm....

Another one. The US Government actually injected thousands of people with Plutonium during the 40's, 50's and 60's. Most without their knowledge, of course.

I would probably reject THIS as being urban legend, as well, except the US agreed to pay out millions of dollars to these peoples' families earlier in the 90's. This after 20 years of trying to cover it up and denying that it had ever happened.

And later in the 90's, Clinton made it law that anyone being experimented on with radiation has to have knowledge of it.

Gee, ain't that nice of them.

 

[DingBat]

Originally posted by VoodooAce
Hhhmmm....

Another one. The US Government actually injected thousands of people with Plutonium during the 40's, 50's and 60's. Most without their knowledge, of course.

I would probably reject THIS as being urban legend, as well, except the US agreed to pay out millions of dollars to these peoples' families earlier in the 90's. This after 20 years of trying to cover it up and denying that it had ever happened.

And later in the 90's, Clinton made it law that anyone being experimented on with radiation has to have knowledge of it.

Gee, ain't that nice of them.

I have a hard time believing this one for the simple reason that Plutonium is one of the most toxic substances known to mankind. You may as well ignore the radiation risk as Plutonium will kill you long before it becomes an issue.

At least, that's what I've read.

/bruce

 

[VoodooAce]

I'll find and post a good, sound source.....

Here you go.....from the DOE:http:

//tis.eh.doe.gov/ohre/


Don't blame you, though. Like I said, I had a tougher time believing this one than I did the Tuskegee Syphilis thing....

Yup. Our tax dollars hard at work. Not only infecting people with radioactive materials, but then paying them off once they find out.

Generally, I'm a skeptic. I seriously doubted (read: would have bet money against) the Tuskegee thing being real. My bud here at work swore up and down that he knew it for a fact, and I just thought he must be mistaken.

But the evidence was all readily available, and from legitimate sources. And I STILL have a hard time with it, hehe.....

 

[Sodak]

Originally posted by DingBat
...Plutonium will kill you long before it becomes an issue.

At least, that's what I've read.

If ingested, maybe so. But it is not lethal to carry around. I met a scientiest who worked with a german scientist who was unable to gain legal authority to bring a sample of plutonium into the US - so he just carried a vial of it in his pocket.

As far as these stories being believable, yes, they are. Back when DDT was first mass produced, the gov't carried out a PR campaign to show how darn safe the stuff was. They released films of a few rows of people sitting on chairs in a park. They closed their eyes, and then the smiling man with the hose sprayed them all with a billowing cloud of DDT. "See? Nobody is harmed at all..."

 

[allhailIndia]

DDT as you think is not that toxic a substance as made out by so many people. In fact, it is a great life saver here in India, especially in rural India. Before the use of DDT as an anti malarial agent, there were over 800,000 deaths annually. Now the figure is less than hundred. The use of DDT has been restricted only where there is a possibility that it could , run off into a river or a source of water. Sprayed DDT is not that dangerous.

 

[Lt.Col. Kilgore]

The U.S. government has done much, I'm sure, that we still don't know about. What about doctors infecting hundreds of prison inmates with Pellagra, probably the most horrible disease anyone can suffer through. This has been documented. The Tuskeegee Syphillis tests are 100% true. Radiation injections are true though I think it was a Plutonium derivative as any noticable amount of Plutonium would be lethal. Also the tests of Yellow Kross gas on U.S. Army personell. The list goes on....(as well as testing)! So when people accuse Nazis on doing inhumane tests its only fair we also accuse the U.S. Govt. doing the same things, only with U.S. tax dollars, (as well as the money the C.I.A. accrues from the world wide drug cartels.) Its good to know that they're working in the interests of the American people!

 

[VoodooAce]

Originally posted by Lt.Col. Kilgore
The U.S. government has done much, I'm sure, that we still don't know about. What about doctors infecting hundreds of prison inmates with Pellagra, probably the most horrible disease anyone can suffer through. This has been documented. The Tuskeegee Syphillis tests are 100% true. Radiation injections are true though I think it was a Plutonium derivative as any noticable amount of Plutonium would be lethal. Also the tests of Yellow Kross gas on U.S. Army personell. The list goes on....(as well as testing)! So when people accuse Nazis on doing inhumane tests its only fair we also accuse the U.S. Govt. doing the same things, only with U.S. tax dollars, (as well as the money the C.I.A. accrues from the world wide drug cartels.) Its good to know that they're working in the interests of the American people!

There are those on these boards that would actually agree with that last sentence, Kilgore.....

They would read about the Nazis, Soviets or Iraqis, shake their head and say that its horrible. But when they read about the US doing it, something changes, and its suddenly less horrible. Stems, imho, from the instinct so many have to believe they and their side are right, are better, than the rest.

A lot of things have happened in the last half year that would fit in that category.