Twitch is the future of humanity :)

[GenMarshall]

Just as a friendly reminder, the reason why there is no Babe thread on CFC anymore is that it makes some people uncomfortable when there's a literal Safe-Space dedicated exclusively to posting jerk-off material and reducing women to their sexual function where men can make creepy comments without any repercussion.

That's entirely false. They were removed (including the the Hunk Thread) due because the admins were warned by Google that there site wasn't in compliance with Google's Adsense rules. Not because there were any posters that were offended by the content. Here are some quotes that I've dug up.

That disappeared years ago, due to (I believe) Google's AdSense requirements.

the site was warned by google that it was not in compliance with its adsense rules specifically due to some pictures in those threads

FWIW, there's a strong possibility that the babe threads will be going away in the very near future due to a complaint by Google Ads, whose bots recently found one of the old babe threads and tagged it as offensive. Apparently they're doing this throughout the internet and pulling ads from sites that don't meet their content requirements. So our hypocrisy here is likely to be resolved, if only because Google is even stricter than we are.

 

[Kyriakos]

I feel like noting, once again, that I personally find the Twitch e-girl phenomenon quite interesting.
I am not against the e-girls. Certainly very good money. I am not sure if it is good career-wise in the long-run, although obviously it is the best thing ever when compared to girls in the past having to choose a porn career!!! (afaik, some twitch services, like onlyfans, still have soft porn, but still this is a massively better deal than the porn industry imo)

I do not see how it can be taken as a statement against the e-girls, to say I do feel sad for those people who ruin their financial (or other) life by donating large amounts. Empathy isn't only directed to one side.

I was surprised to see my own view termed misogynistic, that much is certain - cause I do not see any of this

(and if, by chance, you were annoyed by the "thoughts" part... well that was just humor...)

 

[Farm Boy]

I'm the one that is usually loudest about thinking banning threads about bonding over people they find beautiful to look at, non pornographically, is a sign of deep sexual dysfunction and unhealthy social pressure. As was said, there are plenty of disgusting sexual communities to take up the sword. Heaven and righteousness(your word ) forbid that there be spaces for people to be real and positive about their sexuality within a longstanding online relationship not built around sexuality itself, that they address it as a strength and reality, rather than it be cordoned off like the mind and body are possessed of different demons.

But your wires seem crossed? Or maybe the posters addressed jumped and I did not follow? No particular problem at all with twitch girls or e girls or Delphine or whatever. Delphine in particular was(is?) more creative than most in what can be a stunningly repetitive niche. I think they're a bad spend of money in general, but it's entertainment, so probably no worse than eating a pizza or whatever. I think they're a tragic attempt at community, when that happens, but that's not a criticism of erotic cosplay or whatever. Better than an Alex Jones type community. The ones that actually get into crafting costumes are really cool. Haven't watched recently, but I used to like Pokket when she did the crafting streams.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

I'm the one that is usually loudest about thinking banning threads about bonding over people they find beautiful to look at, non pornographically, is a sign of deep sexual dysfunction and unhealthy social pressure.

I appreciate your concerns over my dick and libido, but I can assure you they're well and can function absolutely beautifully and frequently. I'm not surprised you'd be really cool with this forum having a babe thread, or a dude thread, but it's both dumb and insincere to pretend like people aren't pressured or thrown off by that kind of stuff. people on this very forum have literally said that much (and those people aren't me). if you think discomforting them in order to have a circle jerk thread is a good thing, just say that

I think they're a tragic attempt at community

Now this I might agree with

That's entirely false. They were removed (including the the Hunk Thread) due because the admins were warned by Google that there site wasn't in compliance with Google's Adsense rules. Not because there were any posters that were offended by the content. Here are some quotes that I've dug up.

that's interesting, thanks, but my concern isn't really why the thread was ended, but rather what is gained by having it and who is discomforted by having it. either way I stand corrected, thanks Google.

 

[Narz]

It's not what, it's who. Most people who get looked down upon eventually care. Even when they pretend not to.

That is true but if there are easy ways to make money people will take them & deal with the consequences (or pretend they have a different job)

 

[Mise]

I like watching people play computer games on Twitch, but I did indeed prefer the YouTube playthrough era to this new Twitch one.

Regarding the Babe Thread, I'm totally fine with it being gone, to me it was a relic of the average internet forum back when CFC got started and OT got going. A bit like sexy calendars they used to have in the office - you don't see them any more either, for the same reason. Same arguments too, "it's just a bit of harmless fun!" I probably used them myself, such was the age back then. The fact that it was Google that got rid of it eventually is a testament to how much of a boys' club this place can be, and how much of a boy's club the internet in general used to be compared to what it is now. Warpus in that thread quoted above described it as a "wild west run by 16 year olds", which is bang on in my view. "Babe thread" just had a 6th form common room vibe to me. I really don't see the CFC Babe Thread as the vanguard of a new sexually enlightened libertine in the way that some are describing here, whatever the validity of those arguments in a general sense.

I have no problem with some women making money from Twitch in the way that some women have made money for an awfully long time. I hope everyone has a jolly good time about it too. I have no idea why people would spend hundreds of dollars on twitch gifts or dirty bathwater but what consenting adults do with their own money and time is none of my business.

Targetting children with ads and gambling mechanics is abhorrent though. That really can go do one.

 

[Farm Boy]

No, it's not a vanguard. It's a "relic" as you say. Back from when dads were depicted as calm and supportive in sitcoms rather than actively demeaning and stupid. Progress has been made in depictions of female sexuality, but the counterstroke against general male attraction is stupid and Victorian. It leaves sexuality to be modeled and reinforced by bad examples. But that's ok, because out of sight out of mind, I guess. The thread isn't coming back, so no need to keep getting bent about it, it is, however, a good gauge on what's allowable and not.

 

[Narz]

You guys are funny w your overcomplicated sociological theories, babe thread is antiquated in an era with unlimited free porn.

 

[Lemon Merchant]

Moderator Action: Let's keep the discussion away from the seriously adult talk that has been happening. I have had to delete a few posts as they were too adult in nature for the site. Remember that this is supposed to be a family friendly forum. Please be mindful of that. Thank you.

 

[Farm Boy]

There we go. A thread with people admiring beautiful people being a replaceable part with open pornography. Yeah, that's dysfunctional capitalist sexuality. That's gross.

 

[Hygro]

I don't mind the babe thread gone. If people are uncomfortable, fine. We won't change people's minds on the slope of the thing itself. I agree that the diversity of seeing how and what one another found whom attractive was a cool thing, it was not pornographic, or at least certainly didn't have that affect for me. It was more like, who likes the muscle dudes, who likes the thicc gals, who is more interested in the tattoos than the skin behind it, etc. But I didn't like it when I was younger and only saw it as out of place softcore pornography, and I don't really miss it. But I do agree with Farm Boy's philosophical wax in general.

Regard the egirls, I don't think anyone here has anything against them. They are an interesting "new" phenomenon. Sort of a mass production of the Paris Hilton's of the previous generation of reality shows combined with cosplay and anime culture. Most of them aren't making any money. The ones who are are lucky but also working hard at it. But the barrier to entry is zero, the lifestyle is potentially unchallenging, and there's glamor. It's a winner take most spire with infinite entrants.