UK/EU adopted a new plan to allow police to hack your computers without a warrant.

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HOLY CRAP! Really? Like the timesonline is a fake news site, right. How could this be real?

Police set to step up hacking of home PCs
David Leppard

THE Home Office has quietly adopted a new plan to allow police across Britain routinely to hack into people’s personal computers without a warrant.

The move, which follows a decision by the European Union’s council of ministers in Brussels, has angered civil liberties groups and opposition MPs. They described it as a sinister extension of the surveillance state which drives “a coach and horses” through privacy laws.

The hacking is known as “remote searching”. It allows police or MI5 officers who may be hundreds of miles away to examine covertly the hard drive of someone’s PC at his home, office or hotel room.

Material gathered in this way includes the content of all e-mails, web-browsing habits and instant messaging.
Under the Brussels edict, police across the EU have been given the green light to expand the implementation of a rarely used power involving warrantless intrusive surveillance of private property. The strategy will allow French, German and other EU forces to ask British officers to hack into someone’s UK computer and pass over any material gleaned.

A remote search can be granted if a senior officer says he “believes” that it is “proportionate” and necessary to prevent or detect serious crime — defined as any offence attracting a jail sentence of more than three years.

However, opposition MPs and civil liberties groups say that the broadening of such intrusive surveillance powers should be regulated by a new act of parliament and court warrants.

They point out that in contrast to the legal safeguards for searching a suspect’s home, police undertaking a remote search do not need to apply to a magistrates’ court for a warrant.

Shami Chakrabarti, director of Liberty, the human rights group, said she would challenge the legal basis of the move. “These are very intrusive powers – as intrusive as someone busting down your door and coming into your home,” she said.

“The public will want this to be controlled by new legislation and judicial authorisation. Without those safeguards it’s a devastating blow to any notion of personal privacy.”

She said the move had parallels with the warrantless police search of the House of Commons office of Damian Green, the Tory MP: “It’s like giving police the power to do a Damian Green every day but to do it without anyone even knowing you were doing it.”

Richard Clayton, a researcher at Cambridge University’s computer laboratory, said that remote searches had been possible since 1994, although they were very rare. An amendment to the Computer Misuse Act 1990 made hacking legal if it was authorised and carried out by the state.

He said the authorities could break into a suspect’s home or office and insert a “key-logging” device into an individual’s computer. This would collect and, if necessary, transmit details of all the suspect’s keystrokes. “It’s just like putting a secret camera in someone’s living room,” he said.

Police might also send an e-mail to a suspect’s computer. The message would include an attachment that contained a virus or “malware”. If the attachment was opened, the remote search facility would be covertly activated. Alternatively, police could park outside a suspect’s home and hack into his or her hard drive using the wireless network.

Police say that such methods are necessary to investigate suspects who use cyberspace to carry out crimes. These include paedophiles, internet fraudsters, identity thieves and terrorists.

The Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) said such intrusive surveillance was closely regulated under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act. A spokesman said police were already carrying out a small number of these operations which were among 194 clandestine searches last year of people’s homes, offices and hotel bedrooms.

“To be a valid authorisation, the officer giving it must believe that when it is given it is necessary to prevent or detect serious crime and [the] action is proportionate to what it seeks to achieve,” Acpo said.

Dominic Grieve, the shadow home secretary, agreed that the development may benefit law enforcement. But he added: “The exercise of such intrusive powers raises serious privacy issues. The government must explain how they would work in practice and what safeguards will be in place to prevent abuse.”

The Home Office said it was working with other EU states to develop details of the proposals.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5439604.ece
This is crazy!!! Hell, whats to stop them from forcing AV software to not detect goverment key loggers.
 
Oh NOES!!! They will soon have access to all of my lolcats.

I bet they hack me just to steal my "Emo_Putie" and "Change_Putie" pics.

I'm sure all the e-007s, e-gangsters and people with top level maxed-out characters on "World of Idiots" are terrified.

The Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) said such intrusive surveillance was closely regulated under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act. A spokesman said police were already carrying out a small number of these operations which were among 194 clandestine searches last year of people’s homes, offices and hotel bedrooms.

Does that = "They are gonna start putting the surveillance into all video games! :run: " ?

I don't think the gubmint is interested in my l337 CoH strats and my FFH strats are probably out-dated, so none of the information on my machine could be used against me.



 
I desperately hope that either this is false, or that the internet strikes back swiftly and forces the government to get rid of this law.

[edited for minor grammatical error]
 
I desperately hope that either this is false, or that the internet strikes back swiftly and forces the government to get rid of this law.

[edited for minor grammatical error]

It's too late! EU forces have already undermined the resistance movement and are betraying all the protesters to the authorities!
I'm looking at you Winner! :D
 
If the EU does manage to subjugate all those of its land, we might be inclined to let them in on the Death Star project...
 
The solution is to hack into the computers of all involved in passing this 'law.'

Oh wait, that's immoral. ;)

If the EU does manage to subjugate all those of its land, we might be inclined to let them in on the Death Star project...

I still don't think we should add the flaw. I'm just getting a bad vibe from the idea.
 
I was going to say this would be unconstitutional in Ireland but:

A remote search can be granted if a senior officer says he “believes” that it is “proportionate” and necessary to prevent or detect serious crime

I think this can more or less be done here for organised crime and terrorism already.

Usually though a search warrant would still be required.

Unfortunately this sounds possible (note about the UK - they have no constitution so the government can do what it wants)
 
So now all someone planning something illegal needs to do is have a spare computer not connected to the internet, or have a memory stick.
 
At least this wont give George Bush any more ideas in tapping into our private lives.
 
Unfortunately this sounds possible (note about the UK - they have no constitution so the government can do what it wants)

Actually I honestly see no way this could work in a state with a (free) constitution. :) So I just think that's the problem.
 
According to The Register, one of the larger IT news sites, its false

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/05/police_remote_snoop/

The Register said:
Home Office denies remote snooping plan

No change to police rules...yet

The Home Office has denied it has made any change to rules governing how police can remotely snoop on people's computers.

Any such remote hack - which normally requires physical access to a computer or network or the use of a key-logging virus - is governed by Ripa - and the rules have not changed. But European discussions on giving police more access are underway - we reported on the meeting of ministers in October. But despite this Sunday Times story, no change has yet been made. The paper claimed the Home Office: "has quietly adopted a new plan to allow police across Britain routinely to hack into people’s personal computers".

A spokesman for the Home Office told the Reg that UK police can already snoop - but these activities are governed by the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act and the Surveillance Commissioner. He said changes had been proposed at the last Interior Ministers' meeting, but nothing has happened since.

The German Interior Ministry explained at the time that "almost all partner countries have or intend to have in the near future national laws allowing access to computer hard drives and other data storage devices located on their territory". But the Germans noted the legal basis of transnational searches is not in place and ministers were looking for ways to rectify this.

Mark Wills, a software engineer at Aker Solutions who emailed us the original story, said: "It is James Bond-style scaremongering and irresponsible. Me and my colleagues just laughed when we saw the story because we know about technology but this kind of thing just frightens people.

"The police have a touch too much power - all in the name of terrorism of course - but this sort of thing really doesn't help." Wills noted that the majority of people online use a firewall which would stop such instant access by the police.

In reality, any such search is difficult without physical access to a machine or network, or a naive user.

A Home Office spokesperson said: "The UK has agreed to a strategic approach towards tackling cyber crime on the same basis as all Member States - however, the decisions in the Council Conclusions are not legally binding and there are no agreed timescales.

"We fully support work to develop an understanding of the scale and impact of electronic crime across the EU and will work with Member States to develop the detail of the proposal.”

Tsk, the Times, whatever next?
 
At least this wont give George Bush any more ideas in tapping into our private lives.

Sorry, but it does give him ideas. Those ideas are probably running wild right now, perhaps bursting to a final round of oppressive fundie santa-style laws targetting anime and games released before 2005.
 
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