UK Politics VI - Will Britain Steir to Karmer Waters?

Quite, like all; the other wealthy people and MPs looking for their bit on the side.

IMO Nigel Farage has three dates for his calendar:

(a) conservative party election of their new leader (2 November 2024)
(b) US election of their President (5 November 2024)
(c) local elections in the UK (1 May 2025)

Logically he will quietly await the outcome of (a) and (b) and then act before (c).
 
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Grenfell report blames decades of government failure and ‘systematic dishonesty’ of companies

The Grenfell Tower disaster was the result of “decades of failure” by central government to stop the spread of combustible cladding combined with the “systematic dishonesty” of multimillion-dollar companies whose products spread the fire that killed 72 people, a seven-year public inquiry has found.

In a 1,700-page report that apportions blame for the 2017 tragedy widely, Sir Martin Moore-Bick, the chair of the inquiry, found that three firms – Arconic, Kingspan and Celotex – “engaged in deliberate and sustained strategies to … mislead the market”.

He also found the architects Studio E, the builders Rydon and Harley Facades and the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea’s building control department all bore responsibility for the blaze.

Studio E demonstrated “a cavalier attitude to the regulations affecting fire safety”. Its failure to recognise that the plastic-filled panels on the high-rise tower were dangerous was not the action of a “reasonably competent architect” and it “bears a very significant degree of responsibility for the disaster”, the inquiry found.

The inquiry was highly critical of the tenant management organisation (TMO), which was appointed by the local authority, the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea (RBKC), to look after its thousands of homes but, according to the report, consistently ignored residents’ views. The TMO chief executive, Robert Black, established a “pattern of concealment … in relation to fire safety matters” and the TMO “treated the demands of managing fire safety as an inconvenience” in “a betrayal of its statutory obligations to its tenants”, the report said.

The final report of the Grenfell Tower public inquiry comes seven years, two months and 21 days after the fire, which started behind a fridge in a fourth-floor flat. It raged through the combustible cladding system to the 24th floor in about 30 minutes. Some victims fell from windows, but most perished trapped by smoke and flames on the upper floors. Fifteen of the deceased were disabled.

After 400 days of evidence in an inquiry that has cost the UK taxpayer more than £200m, Moore-Bick reserved some of his most damning conclusions for central government.

It regulates the safety of buildings but failed to tighten up ambiguous fire regulations while it was engaged in a “bonfire of red tape” launched by the Conservative prime minister David Cameron from 2010 to 2016 in an attempt to boost the economy after the global financial crisis.

The inquiry found that the government was “well aware” of the risks posed by highly flammable cladding “but failed to act on what it knew”.

Eric Pickles, Cameron’s housing secretary until 2015, had “enthusiastically supported” the prime minister’s drive to slash regulations and it dominated his department’s thinking to the extent that matters affecting fire safety and risk to life “were ignored, delayed or disregarded”, the inquiry concluded.

Detectives from the Metropolitan police’s criminal investigation said they would spend 12 to 18 months poring over the findings “line by line” before possible charges. These could include corporate manslaughter, gross negligence manslaughter, fraud, perverting the course of justice and misconduct in public office.


Eric Pickles
 
Grenfell report blames decades of government failure and ‘systematic dishonesty’ of companies

The Grenfell Tower disaster was the result of “decades of failure” by central government to stop the spread of combustible cladding combined with the “systematic dishonesty” of multimillion-dollar companies whose products spread the fire that killed 72 people, a seven-year public inquiry has found.

In a 1,700-page report that apportions blame for the 2017 tragedy widely, Sir Martin Moore-Bick, the chair of the inquiry, found that three firms – Arconic, Kingspan and Celotex – “engaged in deliberate and sustained strategies to … mislead the market”.

He also found the architects Studio E, the builders Rydon and Harley Facades and the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea’s building control department all bore responsibility for the blaze.

Studio E demonstrated “a cavalier attitude to the regulations affecting fire safety”. Its failure to recognise that the plastic-filled panels on the high-rise tower were dangerous was not the action of a “reasonably competent architect” and it “bears a very significant degree of responsibility for the disaster”, the inquiry found.

The inquiry was highly critical of the tenant management organisation (TMO), which was appointed by the local authority, the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea (RBKC), to look after its thousands of homes but, according to the report, consistently ignored residents’ views. The TMO chief executive, Robert Black, established a “pattern of concealment … in relation to fire safety matters” and the TMO “treated the demands of managing fire safety as an inconvenience” in “a betrayal of its statutory obligations to its tenants”, the report said.

The final report of the Grenfell Tower public inquiry comes seven years, two months and 21 days after the fire, which started behind a fridge in a fourth-floor flat. It raged through the combustible cladding system to the 24th floor in about 30 minutes. Some victims fell from windows, but most perished trapped by smoke and flames on the upper floors. Fifteen of the deceased were disabled.

After 400 days of evidence in an inquiry that has cost the UK taxpayer more than £200m, Moore-Bick reserved some of his most damning conclusions for central government.

It regulates the safety of buildings but failed to tighten up ambiguous fire regulations while it was engaged in a “bonfire of red tape” launched by the Conservative prime minister David Cameron from 2010 to 2016 in an attempt to boost the economy after the global financial crisis.

The inquiry found that the government was “well aware” of the risks posed by highly flammable cladding “but failed to act on what it knew”.

Eric Pickles, Cameron’s housing secretary until 2015, had “enthusiastically supported” the prime minister’s drive to slash regulations and it dominated his department’s thinking to the extent that matters affecting fire safety and risk to life “were ignored, delayed or disregarded”, the inquiry concluded.

Detectives from the Metropolitan police’s criminal investigation said they would spend 12 to 18 months poring over the findings “line by line” before possible charges. These could include corporate manslaughter, gross negligence manslaughter, fraud, perverting the course of justice and misconduct in public office.


Eric Pickles
Why do they always look like budget Baron Harkonnen?
 
I saw this one this morning
 
The Green Party of England and Wales has suspended its health spokesperson on the eve its largest-ever conference for calling reports of rising LGBT+ hate crimes "mischievous".

At a general election hustings in June, Pallavi Devulapalli said she had "yet to meet anyone" who denied a person’s right to "dress" and "be addressed as they please".

Ms Devulapalli told the BBC "there is no trans-hate in society in general".

According to government data, there has been an 11% increase in reported hate crimes against trans people in the year 2022-23.
 
Why bring the name of the son of God into to this nonsense? Is terf a form of crime?
 
Why bring the name of the son of God into to this nonsense? Is terf a form of crime?
Opinions aside, nobody said being a TERF (which is something some of that demographic proudly call themselves at this point) is any kind of a crime. The claim was over the existence of such opinions, which most definitely factually exist. As per the linked stat increase r.e. reported hate crimes.
 
Are they trying to actively ruin your life? How?
Being serious here.
 
Are they trying to actively ruin your life? How?
Being serious here.
This is completely irrelevant to the existence of folks with anti-trans views in the UK, and the suspension of a Green councillor who claimed there wasn't any such views in society.

This isn't the "demand a trans person explain bigotry" thread.
 
This is completely irrelevant to the existence of folks with anti-trans views in the UK, and the suspension of a Green councillor who claimed there wasn't any such views in society.

This isn't the "demand a trans person explain bigotry" thread.

We're supposed to tolerate people asking how bigots make our lives worse
 
Any chance of someone half-non-trash being the next tory leader?
Because Starmer is unlikely to be usable by the next general election and the oligarchs need to prop up his equal.
Come to think of it, a quarter-non-trash would suffice.
 
He said not trash. Farage is just as much scum (if not worse) as many of the Tory candidates.
 
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