UK Politics VI - Will Britain Steir to Karmer Waters?
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That is what that graph is saying. My usual odds checker gives a different answer for second place though, with more people vetting on Kemi Badenoch than Robert Jenrick.
Spoiler Odds checker resu;t :
The score today was James Cleverly in the lead with 39 votes, jumping from third place at the last vote. Robert Jenrick came in second with 31 votes - losing two votes on last time. Kemi Badenoch came a close third with 30 votes - up two from the last round. Tugendhat received 20 votes.
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It seems that it is a serious proposal to reach "net zero" by importing wood from North Korea, Afghanistan, Bhutan and the Maldives and burning it in Drax. That sounds sensible.
[EDIT]I found a critique of the plans, which are here from the government. It sounds fairly damming. They have a plan to import loads of biomass, burn it, capture the CO2 and bury it.
In the "restricted supply" scenario, where loads of countries all over the world cut down trees to burn, and we buy 1/5th of than * UK proportion of global GDP. That equals 170 PJ next year, falling to 120 PJ in 2050. Even if we can make that up to 500 PJ with domestic production it will not work. To make it work they have to burn 1000 PJ (1 exajoule) of this biomass, and of course capture all the CO2 and bury it, which no has managed to do yet. I make they equal to the total UK energy generation at the moment (see below). That sounds totally unfeasible, but this is the plan that the country has made to fix the environment that both the Tory and Labour government are going with?
[EDIT]I found a critique of the plans, which are here from the government. It sounds fairly damming. They have a plan to import loads of biomass, burn it, capture the CO2 and bury it.
In the "restricted supply" scenario, where loads of countries all over the world cut down trees to burn, and we buy 1/5th of than * UK proportion of global GDP. That equals 170 PJ next year, falling to 120 PJ in 2050. Even if we can make that up to 500 PJ with domestic production it will not work. To make it work they have to burn 1000 PJ (1 exajoule) of this biomass, and of course capture all the CO2 and bury it, which no has managed to do yet. I make they equal to the total UK energy generation at the moment (see below). That sounds totally unfeasible, but this is the plan that the country has made to fix the environment that both the Tory and Labour government are going with?
Spoiler UK electricity generation :
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EnglishEdward
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It is not going to work unless they can genetically engineer a much more efficient means of photo-synthesis.
EnglishEdward
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That is what that graph is saying. My usual odds checker gives a different answer for second place though, with more people vetting on Kemi Badenoch than Robert Jenrick.
Spoiler Odds checker resu;t :
The score today was James Cleverly in the lead with 39 votes, jumping from third place at the last vote. Robert Jenrick came in second with 31 votes - losing two votes on last time. Kemi Badenoch came a close third with 30 votes - up two from the last round. Tugendhat received 20 votes.
It is impossible to make a rational prediction when the conservative party is irrational.
I have done better on international football competitions.
And then it was two: Badenoch and Jenrick reach final two in Tory race
Robert Jenrick and Kemi Badenoch are through to the final round of the Conservative leadership race after knocking out James Cleverly.
The shock result, announced in Parliament, was met with gasps from some who had expected Cleverly to get through to the last two, after he had delivered a well-received speech at the party's conference last week and topped the ballot of MPs in the third round on Tuesday.
However, in the fourth round he received 37 votes from his colleagues, falling behind Badenoch on 42 and Jenrick on 41.
The final two candidates will now be put to Conservative Party members with the result due on 2 November.
[Kemi Badenoch] said Conservatives needed to "talk about everything, we need to talk about the system, which I think is broken".
"I think Labour are having problems because they are working with a broken system."
Who exactly broke the system?
Robert Jenrick and Kemi Badenoch are through to the final round of the Conservative leadership race after knocking out James Cleverly.
The shock result, announced in Parliament, was met with gasps from some who had expected Cleverly to get through to the last two, after he had delivered a well-received speech at the party's conference last week and topped the ballot of MPs in the third round on Tuesday.
However, in the fourth round he received 37 votes from his colleagues, falling behind Badenoch on 42 and Jenrick on 41.
The final two candidates will now be put to Conservative Party members with the result due on 2 November.
[Kemi Badenoch] said Conservatives needed to "talk about everything, we need to talk about the system, which I think is broken".
"I think Labour are having problems because they are working with a broken system."
Who exactly broke the system?
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Immigrants and the EU.
Half the Tories have said "None of the Above" to the the choices for leader. Are we suddenly going to have three right wing parties?
One Nation Tory group refuses to back Badenoch or Jenrick in party leadership race
The Tory Reform Group (TRG) will not be endorsing a candidate in this year’s Conservative leadership contest.
As the home of One Nation Conservatism since 1975, the TRG is committed to being radically moderate, values-driven, and focused on the future.
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TRG members were consulted throughout the process, and the results clearly show that neither candidate has secured widespread support from the majority of our membership. Both have used rhetoric and focused on issues which are far and away from the party at its best, let alone the One Nation values we cherish and uphold. Therefore, the board of the TRG has unanimously concluded that we are unable to endorse either candidate.
The TRG lists Ken Clarke, the former chancellor, as its president, and Damian Green, a former first secretary of state, and Robert Buckland, a former justice secretary, as vice presidents.
One Nation Tory group refuses to back Badenoch or Jenrick in party leadership race
The Tory Reform Group (TRG) will not be endorsing a candidate in this year’s Conservative leadership contest.
As the home of One Nation Conservatism since 1975, the TRG is committed to being radically moderate, values-driven, and focused on the future.
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TRG members were consulted throughout the process, and the results clearly show that neither candidate has secured widespread support from the majority of our membership. Both have used rhetoric and focused on issues which are far and away from the party at its best, let alone the One Nation values we cherish and uphold. Therefore, the board of the TRG has unanimously concluded that we are unable to endorse either candidate.
The TRG lists Ken Clarke, the former chancellor, as its president, and Damian Green, a former first secretary of state, and Robert Buckland, a former justice secretary, as vice presidents.
EnglishEdward
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Well in my view only if you include the Labour party as one.
None of those three are current MPs.
CON: 9 (+4)
LAB: 7 (-4)
LDM: 2 (+1)
GRN: 2 (+1)
PLC: 1 (+1)
INDs: 0 (-3)
Don't we have the Farridge boys as rightwing party #2?
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Haven't been bothering to follow UK politics. But how long is the current lettuce expected to last still?
Wes will be even worse, mind you.
Wes will be even worse, mind you.
Cloud_Strife
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He's a massive transphobe, one of those lgb drop the t freaks who aligns himself with evangelicals
Dead behind the eyes
EnglishEdward
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Quite so.
The Labour party got a very large number of MPs elected with a much lower vote.
That is not likely to be easily repeated, so I can see no immediate reason why
the Labour government or its MPs would want to call an election before 2028.
So Sir Keir Starmer may well last until 2028, albeit possibly as a lame duck.
I see nothing in the Labour policies that will produce economic growth so that
the increasing population will mean a continuation of per capita GDP decline.
Sir Keir was the EU's candidate, but I doubt the EU will help him.
Still to quote the late Prime Minister Harold MacMilllan there are:
and these may make or break Sir Keir Starmer.
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The 2024 generel election cured the UK from the Tory sickness, if only momentarily.
It did not cure the UK from the consequences of its two-party system, nor FPTP which helps preserve the status quo.
It doesn't help either that both Tory and Labour politicians, still refuse to talk honestly about the consequences of Brexit.
It did not cure the UK from the consequences of its two-party system, nor FPTP which helps preserve the status quo.
It doesn't help either that both Tory and Labour politicians, still refuse to talk honestly about the consequences of Brexit.
Alex Salmond, the former Scottish First minister, passed away today. May he rest in peace.
It was reported that he collapsed mid speech in North Macedonia.
Whilst I did not agree with his politics, I think few could argue that he was a man of substance, who put forward his arguments and wasn’t afraid of debate. He took Scotland to the brink of independence, but also governed Scotland well.
He was also one of the few politicians I’ve seen ‘up close’.
It was reported that he collapsed mid speech in North Macedonia.
Alex Salmond dead: Tributes after ex-first minister dies aged 69
King Charles says: "His devotion to Scotland drove his decades of public service."
www.bbc.co.uk
Whilst I did not agree with his politics, I think few could argue that he was a man of substance, who put forward his arguments and wasn’t afraid of debate. He took Scotland to the brink of independence, but also governed Scotland well.
He was also one of the few politicians I’ve seen ‘up close’.
Cloud_Strife
Deity
A man accused twice of attempted rape, multiple accounts of sexual assault and was a virulent transphobe.
Not a decent human being by any means and certainly not a person I'll mourn
Not a decent human being by any means and certainly not a person I'll mourn
Meanwhile, something about Camilla Windsor (née Parker-Bowles) and her stepdaughter in law Kate Windsor (née Middleton) having a tiff.
All while Charles Windsor (né Windsor) sets off for Astraya which, he assures us, he won't stand in the way if it wants to become a republic.
All while Charles Windsor (né Windsor) sets off for Astraya which, he assures us, he won't stand in the way if it wants to become a republic.
Senethro
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The newspapers always blame the women of the royal family and never the men for having tiffs. I'm unclear if this is some stupid Fleet Street code or excessive deference.
