jessiecat
Divine Monarch
and the first problem it made is help founding the State of Israel back in 1948![]()
Sadly, very very true.

and the first problem it made is help founding the State of Israel back in 1948![]()
and the first problem it made is help founding the State of Israel back in 1948![]()
Sadly, very very true.![]()
A very bad mistake...
No it's a liability. It has developed in the Best Excuse Ever for the Arab nationalist governments surrounding Israel to allow them to put the whole democracy thing on the back burner. Curiously enough the only Arab nations who have actively learned about democracy through the Israeli example are the Palestinians.Bullcrap. It was a great move. It established our first stronghold of democracy in the heart of darkness. If it were not for Israel, the western influence it brings and the balance it provides to tyranny... the mideast would still be in the dark ages.
I would have to agree with this point... ever since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Jewish state has become the Lance Ito of the Middle East... a wonderful distraction for the Arab dictators to use to influence their people, just the same as that little Austrian fellow did only a few years prior.No it's a liability. It has developed in the Best Excuse Ever for the Arab nationalist governments surrounding Israel to allow them to put the whole democracy thing on the back burner.
DWB lets Palestinians use their tents as sniper dens (and then lies about it, repeatedly)? Oh, the comparison is totally not valid, imagine that.
If you really believe nonsense like that you're more deranged than I ever thought possible.![]()
Bullcrap. It was a great move. It established our first stronghold of democracy in the heart of darkness. If it were not for Israel, the western influence it brings and the balance it provides to tyranny... the mideast would still be in the dark ages.
I thought that Turkeys relative secularism and developing democracy was started after world war 1 ?
On the other hand the specific targeted and spectacular terrorist action as we know it today was first perpertated by Isrealies against the British. Then later internationalised by the Palestinians with there plane hijacking and hostage taking.
Perhapes if post world war 2 drawing up of the borders had been better handled and the start of the cold war hadnt happened.
I thought that Turkeys relative secularism and developing democracy was started after world war 1 ?
So, let me get this straight, united foreign policy Neocons of CFCOT. Anyone who does not unilaterally agree with Israel andthe United Statesis bad. Anyone who does not advocate the destroyal of Hamas with whatever means possible (as is happening now; more civilians have died than militants) is bad.
To believe the UN is a criminal organisation bent on helping the destruction of Israel is well within the realms of insanity.
To believe that NGOs like DWB are actually there simply to aid terrorists in causing more destruction is not only insane, it's also morally deficient. Why are you so certain of yourselves, that the only ones who will be able to bring peace to the Middle East, and the rest of the world for that matter, are Western governments, especially that of the United States? And if that is the case, why is the United States hated by so many in the Middle East, and in a certain sense also in the rest of the world?
And most of all, gentlemen, do you really believe that destroying Hamas (and a few hundred, maybe eventually thousand civilians along with them) will mean the end of terrorism in Israel/Palestine? Are you really so certain, that it's not all going to come back to bite them in the ass eventually?
Why is that your bussines? If they want to live in the dark ages, let them live that way.Bullcrap. It was a great move. It established our first stronghold of democracy in the heart of darkness. If it were not for Israel, the western influence it brings and the balance it provides to tyranny... the mideast would still be in the dark ages.
Why is that your bussines? If they want to live in the dark ages, let them live that way.
Dark Ages? Where would we be without all of these things invented in the Middle East:
Agriculture
Domestication of Animals
Cities
The State
Monumental architecture
Metallurgy
Alloys
The Wheel
Rotary Motion and the Potter’s Wheel
Glass
Concrete Counting
Abstract Counting
Writing
The Alphabet
Algebra
LONDON: Israel wants to complete the Gaza invasion within 10 days but a military victory over Hamas is impossible, defence analysis group Jane's estimates.
Security in southern Israel and the Gaza Strip would not be improved by Israel's assault on the Islamist group, said David Hartwell, Jane's Middle East analyst.
Military victory impossible in Gaza: Janes Intelligence the Ozzie reports Janes Intellegence as aserting.
Seems Janes takes a General Petraues stance on the issue too.
I see no arguments in the article supporting the claim that a military victory over Hamas is impossible.
The only country which can end this conflict is Israel. It can end it by means of decisive military victory over the Palestinians and application of an adequately intensive violence to crush their pro-terrorist sentiments.