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Unhappy faces and marathon

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by 12agnar0k, Sep 24, 2010.

  1. 12agnar0k

    12agnar0k Emperor

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    Unhappy faces and marathon

    Well my first game, I decided to play on Marathon and Huge with England.

    And after 10 hours of playing, I am the furthest tech wise in the game, (on king difficulty too) yet not even at gunpowder. Still in the medieval era. Marathon is reallllllllyyyyy slow :D. Also for the last 6 hours, my Civ has been very upset with me, after continuing to conquer I eventually got myself too -50 unhappy faces lol, the -33% combat penalty means nothing when my longbowmen (of which I had 3) never get attacked, 3 range ftw, the only thing saddening about the unhappy faces is that your cities never grow and production is severly lessend, so it becomes really hard to pull yourself out of the deficit, still my gold production and science production kept themselfs nice and high and I was able to build troops to use every now and again and keep ahead of the tech game even though my people were fuming.

    Anyway thats how my first game was going, -50 unhappy faces, not at gunpowder yet, I own half the cities on one of the huge maps two continents, and I could probably fully conquer the continent given lots of patients with gold buying an army to do it. Suffice to say, 10 hours of play to get there is too much lol, next game I play I will stick to lower map sizes and quicker speeds lol.
     
  2. Malkaviel

    Malkaviel Prince

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    Yeh, I can see this happening actually pretty easily. The problem comes with the eagerness to rex like other civ games, but not realizing the consequences in this one.

    At 500AD if I have 5 good, well placed cities with excess happiness but you have 12 cities with 25 spearmen, unless you run at me "right then" I'm going to roll all over you by 1200AD. Maintaining happiness is important. It keeps your science and production up, bonuses extra golden ages, and allows potential to militarily take a really great city somewhere and make it productive quickly without having to mess with a courthouse right away.
     
  3. kaltorak

    kaltorak Emperor

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    it's not marathon related. In my standard speed game I have more trouble managing my happiness than my rivals. You just can't conquer a big empire unless you puppet every city. Right now I have half of the world conquered, and my only real cities are the 5 I found, the rest are all puppets. And my hapiness is still under zero sometimes. I got all the happy resources that are avaiable in the map I have revealed, coloseums and circuses in all the cities I manage, some theatres, notre dam, the social politic that deletes 1 angry face for each unit garrisoned, and thats a lot since I have many puppets..... but nothing, I can't even anex 1 or 2 of the about 15 cities I have because of happiness.
     
  4. Malkaviel

    Malkaviel Prince

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    raze some puppets.
     
  5. 12agnar0k

    12agnar0k Emperor

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    The marathon point is seperate, the point being it makes the game REALLY slow, much slower than civ4, 10 hours and I hadn't even finished medieval techs.

    As for going into 50 unhappiness, it wasn't that bad, I still had full science and full income (obviously not as much if I was getting lots of golden ages though), its just my production was nerfed and my 20 odd cities were all low in population and not growing ^>^, my gold income was enough to buy the few things I wanted every now and again but without production everything else slowed to a halt, such as producing buildings to say improve my happiness ^>^.
     
  6. kaltorak

    kaltorak Emperor

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    I am playing on starnard speed. 9 hous into the game I have total control of 1 of the 2 continents of the world, but still need to conquer 1 civ there. The other continent is unexplored for me. My tech is around musketeers.

    It is really slow. not that it is a bad thing. I liked to play epic. But standard is much slower than civ4 epic
     
  7. AlexandrosV

    AlexandrosV Chieftain

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    With Marathon it's incredible, 200 turns and you are not even at 0 bc. After 3 hours of play with emperor, nobody arrived in the medieval era and i had 3 cities. I really love the new game pace. Also marathon it was too fast for me in civ IV, niow it's much more realistic i think, because troops moviment is increased and game pace decreased, they are somewhat more compatible. Don't like it? Simply set standard or fast
     
  8. Tarkhan

    Tarkhan King

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    On the fast settings, I was finding that my troops would obsolete before I had a chance to use them.

    I really like a slow-paced Civ game, even though it does tend to make the initial turns tedious. move one scout-end turn etc.
     

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