[GS] Unique Unit Elimination Thread

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  1. Kmart_Elvis

    Kmart_Elvis King

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    Eagle Warrior should also be at 23 points.
     
  2. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Berserker (Norway) - 14
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 17
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 17
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 21
    Digger (Australia) - 17 (20-3) I'm sure there's something cool about this unit, but it seems meh to me.
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 17
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 21
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 21
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 20
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 20
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21 (20+1) really fun early unit
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 21
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21

    Edited to update eagle warrior
     
  3. Kmart_Elvis

    Kmart_Elvis King

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Berserker (Norway) - 14
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 18 (17+1) There's two things I like about this unit. 1) one of the few UUs that are resourceless. 2) Run the Logistics policy card, get a GG, and get the Redeploy promotion to have a 6 movement, 78 max CS unit in the Renaissance era. Excellent for defense obviously, but also good for city attacking once you get them right up to the city.
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 17
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 21
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 17
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 21
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 21
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 20
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 20
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 17 (20-3) The weakest in the Cree's kit. It's an upgraded scout but costs so much more that it's not worth it IMO.
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 21
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  4. Icicle

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Berserker (Norway) - 11 (14-3) Even in a domination game as Norway these guys just aren't worth making.
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 18
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 17
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 21
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 17
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 21
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 22 (21+1) Incredibly strong and come right at the time for a rush if you have the resources for it.
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 20
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 20
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 17
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 21
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  5. AJ22PIZZA

    AJ22PIZZA Chieftain

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Berserker (Norway) - 11
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15 (18-3) A little too late in the game and an underwhelming bonus, along with being an anti-cavalry unit. I think units based around defense are much worse comparatively just because of how beneficial and powerful attacking/conquest is.
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 17
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 21
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 17
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 21
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 22
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21 (20+1) gold for defeating a unit that replaces one of the best units in the game? Yes please. The trader protection is great but very situational, and the +1 combat strength compared to base knights is a plus.
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 20
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 17
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 21
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  6. bengalryan9

    bengalryan9 King

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    Berserker (Norway) - 11
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 14 (17-3) Ranged units with only one range? No thanks.
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 21
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 17
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 21
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 22
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21 (20+1) What if a unique unit came late and was GOOD? These things are terrors.
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 17
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 21
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  7. TahamiTsunami

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    This looks pretty fun!

    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Berserker (Norway) - 8 (11 - 3) They're really cool and can be quite devastating when used effectively but the defensive weakness definitely hurts.
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 21
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 17
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22 (21 +1) Having a melee attacker with ranged attacks is a big plus.
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 22
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 17
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 21
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  8. Leucarum

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    Berserker (Norway) - 8
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 11 (14-3) Not the reason to play China. Their real UU is the builder...
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22 (21+1) My favourite out of the Naval UUs. Since sea combat is usually inconsequential to say the least, the focus on destroying districts makes this one pretty useful!
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 17
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 22
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 17
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 21
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  9. BenitoChavez

    BenitoChavez Whispering Walrus

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Berserker (Norway) - 8
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 11
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 14 = 17 - 3. So spearmen kind of suck. So you would think an upgraded spearman might be ok. But no! A hoplite by itself is literally just a reskinned spearman. There is 0 difference. What you need to do is to build TWO of them, yes two, place them next to each other and never let them separate. Then and only then can they beat warriors, just barely, and they still get slaughtered to swords. No thank you.
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 22
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 17
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22 = 21 + 1. So if a slinger is that nerdy kid in school who gets picked on all the time, then the Warak'aq is when that nerdy kid graduates lands that cushy job with a six figure salary straight out of college, starts hitting the gym and gets super jacked and spends his weekends driving his porsche to the beach where all the ladies ogle his greek god physique.
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  10. lotrmith

    lotrmith King

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Berserker (Norway) - 5 = 8-3 The defense malus ruins this unit.
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 11
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 14
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 22
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20

    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18 = 17 + 1 Giving this unit back some love. It’s more costly than a scout, but not by much. It’s actually the same cost and strength as a warrior, which makes it the ideal opener. Run the Double XP card and it can very quickly get the +20 all-combat promo (It gets XP from discovery as well as combat), which makes it stronger than even a fully upgraded warrior and it’ll also have extreme movement, vision, and eventually stealth. Once +20 it’s stronger than a base swordsman and competitive against promoted ones. It upgrades to beefy Rangers and outstanding Spec Ops.

    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  11. Sostratus

    Sostratus Deity

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Berserker (Norway) - 2 = 5 - 3 The math behind the berserker just doesn't fit with how civ6 is currently balanced. The promise is that you can have a unit with 50 attack str, 4 movement! Wow! But A unit like this already exists - the knight. (Womp womp.) And unlike the Berserker, the knight isn't rated at just 35 defense. FXS, to be fair, tried buffing him, but with all the other medieval unique melee bros at 45 base strength, wouldn't it make more sense to have him at 45 base with a +5 on the attack? The core problem with raiding units is that they get shot at by cities. Glass axeman here can't take a hit!
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 11
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 14
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 22
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22 = 21 + 1. This unit is only held back by being attached to the brazilian civ. It's an oppressively powerful UU. Battleships are already very strong; this comes an era earlier and has +10 strength in all cases to boot; they unlock with the civic that gives you corps & fleets. If you applied this to literally any other modern era unit, people would cry about how OP it was. For example, imagine if germany had a panzer that came in the industrial and had 90 strength. Yeah, that would be a problem, wouldn't it?
    Extra points for a clever choice outside the box.

    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  12. monstercat

    monstercat Warlord

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Berserker (Norway) - ELIMINATED (2 - 3) For a civ that is geared towards domination, their UU lacks a lot of durability.
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 11
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 14
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 22
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24 (23 + 1) Have to upvote this at least once. Donkey blitzkrieg is extremely satisfying
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  13. Loderingo

    Loderingo Warlord

    Joined:
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    Messages:
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    Gender:
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    Location:
    Southern England
    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 11
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 11 (14-3) - For a famous unit from history (and with Gorgo being warlike), it feels like it should be quite strong but it really isn't
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23 (22+1) - A real pain to play against due to the extra healing
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  14. Vincent_lacruz

    Vincent_lacruz Chieftain

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    Messages:
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    Location:
    France
    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 8 (11-3) what we need with range weapons is, well, range... If on the front, they get destroyed easily...
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 11
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21 (20+1) This is mostly a defensive weapon (with all the "can't fire after moving"), but that's perfect for one of the civ that love turtling (and it still can wreck cities). Hell, it's a (slightly) weaker field cannon, cheaper, and one era early!!!
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  15. MrRadar

    MrRadar Emperor

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 9 (8+1) Again, an upvote just for the sole reason that there is at least one unit worse than this. By the way, have you faced Crouching Tigers in a rough terrain? It is a very ugly business, I can tell you. In hills and forests and forested hills lines of these guys can pulverize quite a few attackers. And if you place them in a bendy line on Great Wall tiles... I think they should be higher than Hoplites.
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 8 (11-3) Probably the least unique of the remaining units, and being an early unique, it is quite weak.
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 22
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  16. Victoria

    Victoria Regina Supporter

    Joined:
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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 9
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 17 (20-3) Built them once purely because I needed the +4 era. They do not even look that good, tis a shame, why does France not have Burgundian xbow is beyond me!... so out of touch with the French leaders in play
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 8
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23 (22+1) the sheer enjoyment of playing with these puppies has my vote rather than anything technical... which there is a lot of.
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  17. civviefan

    civviefan Warlord

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    Gender:
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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 9
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 17
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 8-3=5 Greece needed a more efficient uu. These guys are useless on most maps. Open fields maybe but who can count on that?
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21+1= 22 first ship that can pillage? Yes please!
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  18. Pure24

    Pure24 Warlord

    Joined:
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    Messages:
    191
    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 22
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 6 (9 - 3). One range. Yes, they have a high defence, but ranged units have no business getting close and personal to other units
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 17
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21 (20 + 1). These guys need some love, for they compliment Macedon's relentless warmongering. I love the GG points per kill, and are superior versions of hosermen. Also upgrades to the best generic units in the game.
    Hoplite (Greece) - 8
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 17
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 14
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  19. Beaver79

    Beaver79 Warlord

    Joined:
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    Messages:
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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 23 = 22 + 1 this isn't in the top 20 in terms of offense and defensive unit but it does 2 extra things really well. It converts a city you take so you don't have to bring inquisitors and more importantly when you take a city it converts the second before you take it giving you the opened their eyes 3-4 era score.
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 6
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 17
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Hoplite (Greece) - 8
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 17
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 11 = 14 - 3 one range and gets one shot by a horseman. It's a fast slinger.
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  20. MrRadar

    MrRadar Emperor

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    Hoplite should be at 5 points, and Viking Longship at 22, as per #58
     
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