Unit design&preview: Siege tower

[aaglo]

Hi everybody!

I think it's about the time to try to finish atleast the units I've promised to make (and perhaps make some others too), so I started out with the easy and the obvious one: Siege Tower.

As some of you might remember something about the process the way I like to make things, all suggestions are very wellcome. And then I'll just ignore all your requests and do whatever I want. j/k

So, here's the start - nuthin' fancy. Just the tower 'ripped off' from the quinquereme, and placed on wheels.

Notes:
- I think this will be a generic siege tower
- I have NO IDEA how this should work in the game (perhaps as a bombarding unit - we would like to see the ignore city walls- or similar flag)
- the preview size is not the unit size.
- I'm not planning on putting a poor guy pushing this thing, because... well; can you imagine someone pushing something as big as this

Well. I've tossed the ball. Comment if you like to see something done differently

Cheers!

 

[Drift]

Lookin' good.

Might I suggest some kind of frontal armor, hides or something. I've been under the impression that the fronts of these things were often covered with something that could handle fire arrows.

And I know what the Lord of the Mods team would like to see pushing this thing. Trolls. Two of 'em.

 

[aaglo]

Yeah, some sort of armour in front could be good.

About the trolls (and Return of the King): I believe there were siege towers in that movie. were they pushed by trolls?

 

[Cimbri]

...Amazing...

 

[Kindred72]

Originally posted by aaglo
Yeah, some sort of armour in front could be good.

About the trolls (and Return of the King): I believe there were siege towers in that movie. were they pushed by trolls?

Yes the trolls were pushing the seige towers. But, I believe just one troll per tower. If you were using poser, I'd send you the model.

 

[aaglo]

Hmmm...
For the lotr-mod, the siege tower could be made to look like the siege tower in the movie (much like many other things in that mod looks like from the movie).

So couldn't you, my dear kindred72, do the lotr-siege tower

 

[Yoda Power]

Very nice and do a non troll version too, im gonna use this in my Persia scenario

 

[Kindred72]

Originally posted by aaglo

So couldn't you, my dear kindred72, do the lotr-siege tower

Well.... Probably not. I'm busy on other things. I'm not good at modeling my own stuff. And, I'm having a hard time figuring out how something like that would be used.

 

[embryodead]

this will fit both historical and fantasy mods well. as for the in-game issues how about making a high offense capturable unit? ie. 4-0-1 with 0-range bombardment and collateral damage (though for this to look properly, there should be initial catapult attack)

 

[Yoda Power]

embryodead-That would be nice, but the AI wouldn't know how to use it, if it doesn't have atleat one defence.

 

[embryodead]

then it has to be 4-1-1, it can defend will catapult anim

 

[Yoda Power]

But the attack and defence anim has to be the same.

 

[embryodead]

but catapult is ok for attack too isnt it?

 

[Yoda Power]

I would prefer if the tower had an arrow attack.

 

[Risbinroch]

Is it possible to have different defend and attack animations like if you use the "defend" line in the ini file? Or does that even work?

Looking good btw... but instead of someone pushing, how about pulling? Just for the run animation.

 

[Dom Pedro II]

Well, how did they move these things really? I don't really care personally. I think it's great no matter what.

 

[mrtn]

Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
Well, how did they move these things really? I don't really care personally. I think it's great no matter what.

You have to move it without having all the movers killed on the way, right? As far as I've read this means that you put all the trolls/warriors/slaves doing the pushing inside the tower.

And I also wants some hides and think that it looks good.

 

[Amenhotep7]

Love it, aaglo! Glad to see you back in the unit-making biz! It's lookin great![dance]

 

[Mr. Dictator]

yeah the death could have the pushers inside running out then the tower falling on them

 

[thestonesfan]

Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
Well, how did they move these things really? I don't really care personally. I think it's great no matter what.

I think they usually built them on the spot. At least the Greeks did - the Assyrians may have moved them.

I think the rule was that if it was small enough to move, it wasn't going to be big enough to be a serious threat.