Unit Request: Assyrian Horse Archer

Louis XXIV

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I've been saying for awhile that an Assyrian Horse Archer would be a perfect uu for them. I felt that there were too many Chariots, but the Horse Archer would fill a role that hasn't been taken yet, as a unit faster than Horsemen (Horse Archers could attack the enemy and retreat without being followed).

The large scope of military action forced the Assyrians to fight in all types of terrain, a condition to which the heavy chariot was ill-suited. A major Assyrian revolution in battlefield capability was the invention of cavalry. Assyrian cavalrymen used the saddle girth, crupper, and breast strap to stabilize the rider, and the horse was controlled by the leg and heel pressure of the boot. (The spur and the stirrup had not yet been invented.) These innovations made possible the first use of mounted archers, the famed 'hurricanes on horseback' mentioned in the Old Testament. In set-piece battle the cavalry was used to pin the enemy flanks and to take up blocking positions to prevent a retreat. Once in position behind the enemy, the cavalry acted as an anvil against which the chariot and infantry units could drive the enemy. The ability of the horse to traverse uneven terrain made the cavalry especially lethal in the pursuit. This same ability made cavalry forces highly flexible and valuable for reconnaissance in force and for providing flank security for the army on the march, two new tactical capabilities.

Here are the only pictures I could find. I think the first is supposed to be Ashurbanipal riding a Horse (like the picture of Ramesses II riding a Chariot into battle).



The other was a miniature model of the unit at a wargaming site.
 
And, of course, the other didn't post :(
 

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I fully support the request for an Assyrian UU. However, I disagree with the choice of a cavalry unit for this purpose.

When I think horse archers, I think of the Scythians who (together with the Medes) destroyed the Assyrian empire in 612 B.C.

Sure, the Assyrians used cavalry instead of chariots, but horsemanship doesn't seem to me the great, defining achievement of the Assyrian empire. I think of the creation of a standing army, the invention of the boot, lamellar armour, widespread use of iron weapons, incredible logistical range, perfection of siege warfare, etc.

This quote never ceases to kick me in the behind:
From Richard A. Gabriel and Karen S. Metz. "From Sumer to Rome: The Military Capabilities of Ancient Armies." New York: Greenwood Press, 1991. Excerpts available online here
The "strategic mobility" of the Assyrian army, or their ability to project their military force over a given area, was 375,000 square miles. After Rome fell, no army exceeded this area until the American Civil War, when the use of railroads made troop movements easier. In terms of efficiency of organization, no military staff (i.e. administrators, logistic officers and engineers) would reach the proficiency of the Assyrian or Roman military staffs until the German general staff of the 1870's. The prototype of a modern soldier's equipment (helmet, body armor, boots [a particular Assyrian innovation], and backpack) was invented by ancient armies and disappeared for almost 1,000 years after the fall of the Roman Empire. The killing power of an ancient composite bow (i.e. the accuracy, force, distance, and speed of deployment) was not matched until the introduction of the Prussian needle gun in 1871. According to modern tests, the body armor, helmet, and shield of the Assyrians would have provided excellent protection against firearms until Napoleon. If the dispersion of field formations, inaccuracy of early firearms, and rates of fire are considered, the Assyrian soldier would have been safer on a battlefield in the 18th century than on an Ancient Near Eastern one.
So sure, yeah, the Assyrians had cavalry shooting the composite bow: "The Assyrians were the first to invent large cavalry squadrons" (ibid). But lets think of it this way: The Scythians were tribal pastoralists, riding down from the steppes into the Ancient Near East like fricking demons on horseback. These horsemen burned themselves into the collective consciousness of the river-valley civilizations, so much so that Darius the Persian decided to invade Scythia to make them pay for their invasions a hundred years earlier.
From E. V. Cernenko, "The Scythians: 700-300BC" (Oxford: Osprey, 1983), p. 20
Cavalry was the principle arm of the Scythians, as was typically the case among nomadic societies. Herodotus and Theucydides put it in a clear-cut way, stating that each Scythian warrior was a mounted archer. ... Throughout early Scythian history [i.e., up until they became sedentary] the overwhelming majority of the men were mounted; infantry consisted of the poorer Scythians, and levies from those settled tribes whose territory was now dominated by the Scythians.
Now these guys are the ones that should have a horse archer UU, not the Assyrians!

I propose, rather, that the Assyrian UU be an infantry unit (a bombard UU wouldn't work well gameplay-wise). I suggest calling it the kisir sharruti, which translates as "standing army." If that scale is too broad for one's taste, then may I suggest the sha shepe, which translates as the "king's personal bodyguard, composed of cavalry, chariotry and infantry" (Mark Healy, The Ancient Assyrians [Oxford: Osprey, 1991], p. 19). Why an infantry unit for the in-game representation? Because that was the bulk of forces, arrayed so securely in boots, lamellar armour etc., these guys are the ones who marched over the Fertile Crescent putting the fear of Ashur into the minds of everyone.

I'll go to school tomorrow and scan all the Angus McBride colour plates, and post those here...unless I get mercilessly shot-down in the meantime.

Cheers,

Mithadan
 
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My entire post dissapeared right when I tried to post it.

Rather than curse at the admin for having problems accessing the site at numerous places, I'll be tremendously patient and try writing this over again.

I agree with the Scythians deserving a Horse Archer, but I don't need a Scythian Horse Archer, I need an Assyrian one ;)
In all serousness, an Assyrian uu is a tricky thing to find. They did so many things so well that you can't point to one thing that stands out. They used the composite bow to lethal effect, but thats represented by the Bab Bowman. They guarded these Archers with Spearman bearing a shield (sort of like the Spanish Tercio), but the Persians perfected it (a formation called the Sparabara). You mentioned the Assyrians always being on the move. This is definately true. They could carry their Chariots over mountains, float them across rivers. When they switched to Cavalry, they did this even faster. The general army was mainly soldiers recruited from the Assyrian provinces. These were supported by the "Elite" Troops. Orginally these were Chariots, but, when Chariotry became less practical than Cavalry, they immediately switched (I'm sure it wasn't immediate, but, in the span of history, it was a lot sooner than most cultures). Even then, Persia improved on the Horse Archer, making it an elite force that comprised of 20% of their entire army (at the battle of Platea, the Persian Horse Archers were lethal against Greek Hoplies, but, the following infantry charge failed miserably).

If you have any pictures of Assyrian armies I'd be glad to see them and try to get any ideas. I think the only problem with your units is that they really aren't "uniqe" enough. The first one is for obvious reasons (a general listing of the army as a whole). The second is because it is similar to the Persian Imortal. Although, as long as the uu isn't the stupid 4 Horse Heavy Chariot (although "Heavy" usually refers to its "shock" ability, it was really just heavy and slow, very, very slow). But, since the Enkidu Warrior and Mounted Warrior are in the game, I really don't care too much, as long as its a bit more historically accurate. :D
 
Actually, I never saw the unit before. Looks exactly like what I wanted :D

EDIT: Actually, I saw the link at CDG, but I didn't get a good look because it refered to a Scythian Horse Archer :o

I think this will make a perfect Assyrian Horse Archer in the main game (I plan to have a special version with Assyria, of course), but maybe it should be used for a Scythian one in Mesopotamia. It all depends on what Assyria gets :cool:

Thanks for pointing it out :goodjob:
 
That horse archer is one of the first Civ3 units I ever remember being made. I still like it. Course I was thinking we'd use it for the Scythians... :)

Anyway, I completely forgot to bring my book to school yesterday, so looks like I won't be able to post any pics until late tomorrow. Sorry about that! :( (BTWI have a pic of that beast of a four-man chariot; and I agree, it's way too wonky [and late] for a UU.)
 
I thought I would put a link to that picture of various Assyrian types (the archer is very similar to the Babylonian bowman actually) I put in another thread. Might be of help.

 
Thanks, LouLong! :)

So dude #1 would be very early Neo-Assyrian, with scale armour under the heavy influence of Mittani?

Dude #2 would be an auxiliary soldier, levvied from a vassal state, maybe Neo-Hittite? Note the disc at the centre of his torso... I'd imagine this dude would be part of the "kisir sharruti."

Dude #4 would be an Assyrian soldier (an elite?). I take it the green jacket with orange squiggleys is supposed to represent lamellar armour? I imagine this dude would be part of the "sha shepe."

I'll post some pictures later today, as I have already remembered to stick my Assyrian book (and my Scythian book) into my rucksack. Hopefully the scanner will be free when I get there...
 
Corresponding to LouLong's #2 guy, here is a Neo-Hittite vassal levy spearman, from the time of Tiglath-Pileser III through to Sargon II (745-705 BC):

"A distinctive feature of Neo-Hittite troops was the 'irtu' or bronze disc protecting the chest; this feature was also appropriated by the Assyrians, and can still be seen worn by troops in the reign of Ashubanipal."

Corresponding to LouLong's #3 guy (sort of), here is a native Assyrian slinger wearing lamellar armour, but not boots:

"[This guy] is a slinger, and demonstrates the form of personal body armour that was to become standard issue in later reigns. [He] lacks footwear. Contact and experience with Urartian troops and the incorporation of Neo-Hittite vassal units who employed footwear led to the Assyrians introducing such themselves; by the time of Senacherib they are standard issue for the 'kisir sharutti'."
 
Corresponding to LouLong's #4 guy, here is a native Assyrian elite infantryman, again from the same time period (745-705 BC):

"[This guy] is a 'zuk shepe' or infantry guard; he wears no body armour and is very lightly equipped for an élite unit. Of note is his shield, being a cone of leather edged and embossed with bronze."

If I may be so bold, I would suggest that the Assyrian UU be modelled after this last fellow, with the exception that he be wearing lamellar armour and boots. We could call the unit a zuk shepe, which isn't as broad as "kisir sharutti (standing army)" and as Immortal-sounding as "she shepe (king's personal bodyguard)." Tiglath-Pileser III was the big reformer of the military, the first big dude after Assyria's period of weakness (810-746). So I think this would be a good time for a Golden Age, and this would be a good unit to trigger it.

(Cited text by Mark Healy, illustrations by Angus McBride, from The Ancient Assyrians, published by Osprey [Oxford], 1991).

Gotta run, in order to make supper. Will post way more Assyrian pics later, when I've got time...unless they're unwanted/unecessary! :)

Edit: Is there a limit to the number of images I can link to per post? I had a really hard time getting all three of these pics into the same post, and I had to give up eventually.
 
Ooh ooh! I have pictures of one of those too!!! :p

I actually think a Siege Engine would be a perfect Assyrian UU, except that how would it start a Golden Age? It wouldn't, I guess. So that zuk shepe would be the next best choice...wouldn't it? :satan:
 
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