UNluckiest Nation Ever?

Discussion in 'World History' started by Cheezy the Wiz, Jun 5, 2006.

  1. Mirc

    Mirc Not mIRC!!!

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    I have to disagree here. Maybe they all had better or worse times, but not too many had great luck or horrible luck... What great luck did the pre-Columbian countries from North and South America had? And, what great luck did Romania had? What horrible luck did England have, for example? Or Canada? Or even Japan?
     
  2. Steph

    Steph Multi Many Tasks man Retired Moderator

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    It is full of English!!
    And even worse....
    It is next to the French!!!
     
  3. Takhisis

    Takhisis Rum and coke.

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    They´re just opposiute the French... couldn´t have pikced worse neighbours! :p Steph.
     
  4. privatehudson

    privatehudson The Ultimate Badass

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    The English have to put up with the Scots and Welsh blaming them for everything that goes wrong there on top of having the French for neighbours and the curse of never being able to perform well at games we invent.
     
  5. Takhisis

    Takhisis Rum and coke.

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    up yours.
    And also, they have the curse of having
     
  6. megalomaniac

    megalomaniac Push the red button!!

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    Israel - Territory that has been fought over since biblical times.
     
  7. Dionysius

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    1.[TXT_VERY_VERY_SARCASTIC] Yeah!! what have the angelic unfortunate english ever done to those barbarous celts! [/TXT_VERY_VERY_SARCASTIC]
    2.whats wrong with the french?
    sure, they go on strike at the drop of a hat,and invaded on one occasion,
    but who cares?
    3. meh... invent an obscure game, and dont tell foreignors.
     
  8. Squonk

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    During which 1900 years Jews were an insignificant minority then.
    Israel is just a bit more than half of century old.
     
  9. Sims2789

    Sims2789 Fool me once...

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    Israel's had it pretty bad I'd say (Israel as in the nation of Israel, including but not limited to the modern State of Israel).
     
  10. luiz

    luiz Trendy Revolutionary

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    Brazil - in theory we were supposed to be a world power, in reality we're a world joke!

    Think about it: in Brazil there are no earthquakes, no volcanos, no hurricanes, etc. We have a vast territory full of every resource one can imagine - gold, diamonds, alluminium, oil, uranium, we have it all. We also have a very large population which in theory should mean a huge a economy. We never suffered genocide and we fought very few wars - and the few we fought, we won. That means that no brazilian city was razed by a foreign power, no territory was occupied, etc.

    In theory we should be the most succesful country in the world. In reality we are a big collection of failures and deceptions.

    Of all the good things we have, in one we were very unlucky. Brazil is full of brazilians.
     
  11. Steph

    Steph Multi Many Tasks man Retired Moderator

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    And you could not even beat the French in 3 world cups... :D
     
  12. Dann

    Dann Green bug

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    @luiz
    Give it more time. You're still a young nation.

    Wait a thousand years or so until mankind has ruined all other areas of the planet save Antarctica. Then you can hold the rest of the world by the balls with your vast freshwater reserves. :D
     
  13. luiz

    luiz Trendy Revolutionary

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    Argh!
    That's the worst of all! We were defeated by the awful footballing grandpas!
     
  14. Bungholio

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    France because of all the military jokes;)
     
  15. Steph

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    And you can add a new one after the World cup: we could not even beat Italy :cry:
     
  16. privatehudson

    privatehudson The Ultimate Badass

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    Well at least most of the Italian side didn't join the French team at half time ;)
     
  17. garric

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    There is absolutely no contest, it's Russia.

    First they were oppressed by the Mongolian people, bearing the full brunt of the Mongolian assault. Once the Mongolians were done with Russia they didn't have enough spirit to get into Europe.

    Then the czarist monarchy that oppressed the SERFS (aka slaves), all the way to the imperalistic era, the people were very much oppressed and beaten down, treated as useless cannon fodder and an endless supply of flesh...

    Got brutally beaten in WW1, losing millions of soldiers, which in turn led to the Soviet Revolution...

    Which oppressed its people even further.

    Millions die due to starving and civil war.

    The next thing to happen is WW2, Russia losing 20 million men to the Germans.

    Assaults into Afghanistan, the Cold War, the iron curtain, and the communist rule for the next 80 years.

    Only to emerge into the 21s century as a pseudo-democracy with an autocratic president, while most of the country is living in near poverty, most of it's wealth is sold off to private oligarchs who've had a death grip on the economy ever since.

    Oh, and can't forget about Chechnya.


    I don't think there will ever be a country that is unlucky as Russia. None of the countries mentioned earlier even come close.
     
  18. Steph

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    Did you notice we wear wearing white shirts? In case we need to wave them to surrender?
     
  19. Mirc

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    You forget the offensive way of thinking of the Russians. That's what you get if you attack everyone around you. Of course, the Mongol invasion was not a consequence of any of the brutal actions of the Russians, but all Europe and China suffered from the Mongols, so this is not something unique to make it more unlucky than other countries.
    There are many countries which got beaten brutally in WW1, and communist regimes where everywhere near Russia at the time. And they were the ones to spread it forcefully everywhere, because except Africa, South America and other countries where the communists got voted by the people, the European people never wanted communists to rule them.
    And you can't really say they are unlucky if Stalin killed 20 million people (which is true), because remember that Pol Pot (or how it is spelled in English) killed more!
    So most of the unlucky moments you mentioned are a consequence of their attitude and thirst for conquer and power.
     
  20. Heretic_Cata

    Heretic_Cata We're gonna live forever

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    Usually when i think of an unlucky nation i imagine a small country that doesn't invade neighbouring countries on a regular basis, was NEVER a huge empire and that was NEVER a superpower. So Russia fails to be any of these things.
    Mirc comented on this one.

    Name one european monarchy that did not opress the middle&lower classes.

    WW2 is a war where Russia was among the luckiest countries. Leningrad, Moscow, Kursk, Stalingrad - do these ring any bells ?

    Petty border/influence fights.

    It's the same in most east european countries.

    Russia was so unlucky that it became a world superpower.
    Russia was so unlucky that Napoleon couldn't conquer it because of the bad weather.
    Russia was so unlucky that the nazis couldn't conquer Moscow because of the bad weather again.
    Russia was so unlucky that it was prosperous enough to invade Romania about 12 times in it's history. (and i shouldn't start enumerating all the other countries it invaded)

    I could go on and on.
     

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