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UPCOMING MOD! Julius Caesar's Campaign in Gaul

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Creation & Customization' started by Saturn6, Mar 29, 2005.

  1. Saturn6

    Saturn6 Emperor Caesar

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    The year is 59 B.C, and you, Caesar have just gained the provinces of Cisapline Gaul, Transapline Gaul, and Illrycricum. The Helvetii are moving onto ROman territory and it is your duty to destroy them. After removing this threat, gather strength, before embarking on a Campaign that will make you reknowned thorughout the Roman World. Conquer Gaul, Germany, and Briton, and your name will surely become legend. For the Senate and the Roman People!

    The latest edition of the map: (3.01) Map edition 3.0 removed after 261 views
     

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  2. Xen

    Xen Magister

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    very cool; much of the needed stuff has been made already, and has been availible for quite a while; even the units in reguler civ lend themselves well, as the legionary, while not accurate for one of ceasars day, is almost "classic Caesarian" as its based off all those paintings of legionaries, and centurians, one finds in reanaissnace, and neoclassical art depicting Caesar. I can help, hopefully.
     
  3. Saturn6

    Saturn6 Emperor Caesar

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    The units for the Romans have been around for a long time, but there will be new units needed for all the tribes that Caesar conquered in Gaul. Also, the entire map will be of Gaul, and just Gaul.
     
  4. Saturn6

    Saturn6 Emperor Caesar

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    Here's what we're looking at for Units:
    (Those Units that appear in italics are ones that will be custom-made)

    Caesar's Army (Complete)
    Centurion 2.3.1 Zone of Control, detect invisible - Crested Legionary by Kinboat
    Legionary 4.4.2 Bebro's Late Republican Soldier
    X Legion 7.7.2 Produced by wonder- Imperial Legionary by Kinboat
    Gallic Allies 3.3.2 No penalties on Forests - Zulu's Roman Pikeman
    Trieme 3.2.2 - Aaglo's Roman Trieme
    Auxilary 4.3.1 - Aaglo's Roman Archer

    Helveti (Complete)
    Wagon Cart 0.0.3 Settles- LabMonkey's Wagon Settler
    Spear Warband 2.2.3- Mr Will's Euro-Spear Line

    Nervii (Complete)
    Swordsman 5.2.1 - Chuchulainn by Kinboat
    Beserker 6.1.1 - Scottish Warrior by Kindred72

    Ubii (Complete)
    German Calvary 5.2.3 No penalties crossing forests - Mounted Rohirrim by UtahJazz7

    Germans
    Dismounted Cavalry 4.1.2
    German Warriors 3.3.1 - Beserk by Aluminium

    British Tribes
    War Chariot 4.3.3 - Etruscan War Chariot by Bebro
    Hunters 3.3.1 Invisible, Treat All Terrain as road
    Tidal Wave 8.8.3

    Gallic Tribes (Complete)
    Gallic Warriors 2.3.1- Gallic Swordsman
    Gallic Calvary 3.2.2 - Bebro's Roman Auxulia Cavalry
    Tribal Warrior 3.1.1- Kinboat's Belgian Resistor
    Gallic Tracker 0.0.3 Treats all terrain as road - Scout
    Bowmen 4.1.2- Bowmen

    Venetii (Complete)
    Warship 3.4.3 - Merchant Ship
    Heavy Warship 4.5.2 - Sloop3 by Orthanc
    Frigate 2.1.4 - Medieval Galley

    Avernii (Complete)
    Pillager 4.3.2 Treats all terrian as road - Beserk
    Verc. Guards 3.5.1 - Kinboat's Germanic Spearman
     
  5. Saturn6

    Saturn6 Emperor Caesar

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    Map is good! I found a map of "Roman Gaul" by Red Alert. It's Perfect!
     
  6. jobiwan7

    jobiwan7 Jedi Scholar

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    Why do you have these units? Caesar's time was a while after the Marian reforms.
     
  7. Saturn6

    Saturn6 Emperor Caesar

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    Well jobiwan, the game becomes a lot duller, when there is only one unit. Also, it will be a cool experience, using the manipular formation. This would prove to be the roman army's mainstay for quite some time. This means that you cannot pump out a unit, and have a "stack of death". It requires you to harness your prowness as a military general, to defeat the Gauls- just like Caesar did.
     
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    jobiwan7 Jedi Scholar

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    I suppose that would work, though it would be a little inaccurate. You could add auxiliary infantry or archers, I suppose.
     
  9. James I

    James I Victory at Sea...

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    Have you read "Caesars legion- the history of Legion X"

    That book has a fair bit on Gaul and also the repulse of the Helveti migration/invasion

    It did suggest that the Helveti used large spear warbands........ a barb spearman unit maybe??
     
  10. Saturn6

    Saturn6 Emperor Caesar

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    @jobiwan- Yes, I just don't know which unit to use..but I suppose I should've added that to the list, to let you know.
    @James I- I haven't, but I'll look into it. I'll use the spearman instead, it is historicaly accurate, and would allow for a good looking unit.
     
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    Saturn6 Emperor Caesar

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    Caesar III, interesting...I own that game, I they do have some good graphics. Thanks for looking into it.
    @ Jobiwan, also, in addition to the auxilary, there is the gallic allies, which serve as the auxilary. However, having a base unit auxilary allows for us to demonstrate the great variety the roman army had, soldierwise.
     
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    Saturn6 Emperor Caesar

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    A question for the group:
    Should there just be the Gallic Tribes listed above, or should, there be more tribes. Personally, I believe there should be more, but I am interested about what othere people think about the matter. Also, I believe, that since Julius Caesar couldn't capture Britain, and Germany, I believe, that if a player does maintan control of these two areas, that they should get quite alot of VP. However, it'll be balanced out by how many troops you have to use to gain control of these areas. I am looking forward to people's suggestions.

    I encountered a German Spearman, or something of the sort, about a week ago, and thought that it would work well as the Helvetii's Spear Warband Unit. I have tried looking for it again, and have not been able to find it. If anyone could point me in the right direction, that would allow me to have the unit covered. As I look at how the game should start off, and the territories assigned to civs, I think it looks good. As Caesar, you have currently 3 provinces, Illyricum, Cisapline Gaul, and Transalpine Gaul, which you grabbed because the governor of that province recently died. With a relatively small force, you must halt the Helvetii advancement into Roman Territory, and destroy them. How does that sound? Caesar just has those 3 areas, with the SPQR, controlling all other provinces that Rome held at the time. AN alternative, would be to have each ROman province a civ, and thus Caesar could call on them for reinforcements, from time to time. My ear is opened to suggestions.
     
  14. Mongoloid Cow

    Mongoloid Cow Great Khan

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    My advice would be to not add anything; be it a civ, city, or otherwise, unless necessary or interesting. Reason being loading times and waiting times. If you can include Germany and Britain on a map without making it too large, or too full of cities, by all means go ahead and add them. Britain would certainly be an interesting addition. IIRC the Atrebates (I think it was them) migrated to Britain after the destruction of the Arverni Confederation, and the Belgae revolted when a serious expedition against Britain was eventually mounted. I reckon that you should probably leave all non-Caesarean provinces as just Rome SPQR, and include the major tribes and players only.
     
  15. James I

    James I Victory at Sea...

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    The reinforcement idea, how would one ensure they would provide them???
    Unless that was fixed, i would be against CPU allied troops!!!!

    Will the Romans be able to have the Gallic Cav that Caesar used as a bodyguard as a special unit??? maybe just one special one.....
     
  16. Saturn6

    Saturn6 Emperor Caesar

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    Yeah guys, I worked on adding Roman cities to the map. I'll upload soon, but since I'm don't have enough time to do it, I'll do it then. IT probably has some errors, but I'm expecting that. Once I have the map up, I'll be listening for fixes I should make. FOr sources, I used Tacitus' Annals of Imperial Rome, and Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
     
  17. pinktilapia

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    Uh, but Gibbon's coverage starts with the Antonines!
     
  18. Saturn6

    Saturn6 Emperor Caesar

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    James I, could you get me some more information on those special bodyguards?
    I realize that Gibbon starts later, but I used a map in the back to give me reference.
    If a wonder produces a certain type of unit, and that wonder is captured by another civ, that doesn't have the ability to produce that unit, will the wonder still produce a unit? On the map, I only did Italy, and a small amount on Greece and Spain. And when I'm ready to post it, what is the best way to do so? I'll try to find the units for the Gallic tribes, by the end of the week, and I'm constantly searching for the units to use for the Venetii.
     
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    James I Victory at Sea...

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    I will get my book back from a friend and post some detail here....
     
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    Saturn6 Emperor Caesar

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    How to I get the map aviable for uploading? It's in the .biq, and it doesn't handle these file types.
     

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