US Military Plans To Deploy 40 "Offensive" Cyberattack Units

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Pentagon creating teams to launch cyberattacks as threat grows

The Pentagon’s Cyber Command will create 13 offensive teams by the fall of 2015 to help defend the nation against major computer attacks from abroad, Gen. Keith Alexander testified to Congress on Tuesday, a rare acknowledgment of the military’s ability to use cyberweapons.

The new teams are part of a broader government effort to shield the nation from destructive attacks over the Internet that could harm Wall Street or knock out electric power, for instance.

But Alexander warned that budget cuts will undermine the effort to build up these forces even as foreign threats to the nation’s critical computer systems intensify. And he urged Congress to pass legislation to enable the private sector to share computer threat data with the government without fear of being sued.

As he moves into his eighth year as director of the National Security Agency and his third year as head of the fledgling Cyber Command, Alexander told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the strategic-threat picture is worsening. “We’ve seen the attacks on Wall Street over the last six months grow significantly,” he said, noting there were more than 160 disruptive attacks on banks in that period.

Describing an attack on Saudi Arabia’s national oil company, he said: “Last summer, in August, we saw a destructive attack on Saudi Aramco, where the data on over 30,000 systems were destroyed. And if you look at industry, especially the anti-virus community and others, they believe it’s going to grow more in 2013. And there’s a lot that we need to do to prepare for this.”

The U.S. intelligence community has indicated that the assaults on the banks and Saudi Aramco were the work of Iran in retaliation for U.S. financial sanctions imposed to deter Iran from pursuing a nuclear weapons program.

Alexander’s remarks came as U.S. intelligence officials elsewhere on Capitol Hill testified about the growing cyberthreat. At a national security threat hearing, Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. called on China to stop its “cyber-stealing” of corporate secrets from U.S. networks.

Alexander said the 13 teams would defend against destructive attacks. “I would like to be clear that this team . . . is an offensive team,” he said.

Twenty-seven other teams would support commands such as the Pacific Command and the Central Command as they plan offensive cyber capabilities. Separate teams would focus on protecting the Defense Department’s computer networks. He said the first third of the forces, which officials have said will total several thousand civilians and uniformed personnel, will be in place by September and the second third a year later.

Some teams are already in place, Alexander said, to focus on “the most serious threats,” which he did not identify.

But he said uncertainty about the budget is affecting the ability to fill out the teams. About 25 percent of the Cyber Command’s budget is being held up by congressional wrangling over the fiscal 2013 budget, he said. And across-the-board cuts that took effect March 1 are forcing civilian furloughs. “By singling out the civilian workforce, we’ve done a great disservice,” said Alexander, noting that one-third of the command workforce is made up of Air Force civilians.

He said some cybersecurity recruits have taken a salary cut to work for the government, only to be faced with a furlough. “That’s the wrong message to send people we want to stay in the military acting in these career fields.”

The attacks hitting the banks are “distributed denial of service attacks” — or barrages of network traffic against Web site servers — that are best handled by the Internet service providers, he said. The issue is “when does a nuisance become a real problem” that forces the government to act, he said. The administration is debating that now, he said.

To detect major attacks on industry, the department needs to see them coming in real time, Alexander said. The Internet service providers are best positioned to provide that visibility, but they lack the authority to share attack data with the government, he said. In particular, he said, the companies need legal protection against lawsuits for sharing the data.
What do you think they mean by "offensive"? What sort of "cyberweapons" do you think they are developing?
 
Honestly, thank goodness. As the world modernizes around them, the US needs to be ever more cognizant of threats to their internet lines. The last thing we'd want is a hack into a secure network of the Marines, for example.

Um, is that signature still there? Ah, yes, it is. Good.
 
Yeah this wont end well....
 
What do you think they mean by "offensive"? What sort of "cyberweapons" do you think they are developing?

What do you think Form? This is more closely related to your field of expertise than most others around here...
 
In order to be effective, these teams are going to have to hire people from the.. ah.. how should I put it.. "hacker" community. These are skills you can't learn at a government funded training facility. Some of them yes, a lot of them no.

They'll need to try to attract people who do this sort of thing as a hobby.. Otherwise these teams are going to be not nearly as effective as they could be. And of course this sort of thing happens in movies, but.. yeah, what sorts of people are they hiring for this? I wonder
 
In order to be effective, these teams are going to have to hire people from the.. ah.. how should I put it.. "hacker" community. These are skills you can't learn at a government funded training facility. Some of them yes, a lot of them no.

They'll need to try to attract people who do this sort of thing as a hobby.. Otherwise these teams are going to be not nearly as effective as they could be. And of course this sort of thing happens in movies, but.. yeah, what sorts of people are they hiring for this? I wonder

Actually, I think the US Government has never really had problems with employing hackers, expecially once they've caught them.
 
Hackers: with the threat of prison time versus a contractor salary it would be an easy, if not palatable, choice. Makes you wonder if the next war will be waged in seconds. If you can shut down a countries everything what could they do?
 
Funny enough, I actually watched War Games last night. It was meh

Would've been a lot better if they had avoided the whole, 'the computer is concious despite existing on reel-to-reels with 2k in memory and is also a massive dick' thing.
 
Funny enough, I actually watched War Games last night. It was meh

Would've been a lot better if they had avoided the whole, 'the computer is concious despite existing on reel-to-reels with 2k in memory and is also a massive dick' thing.

Hey no hate on war games. That was an awesome movie when it came out.
 
Hackers: with the threat of prison time versus a contractor salary it would be an easy, if not palatable, choice. Makes you wonder if the next war will be waged in seconds. If you can shut down a countries everything what could they do?

It'll be like Battlestar Galactica where "modern" and vulnerable technology will be rejected in favor of old-fashioned bu effective stuff. Or loads of guerrilla war.
 
I have heard of them hiring hackers, but I wasn't sure how much of that is hollywood-inspired fantasy and how much of it actually happens.
It happens more than you think. When I visited the CIA our guide was from the Cyberwarfare/hacking department and he said a lot of the CIA hackers are hackers that were arrested, plead guilty, and after a background check, hired by the CIA.
 
gives new meaning to the word giga bite. :rolleyes:

Oh yes beacon of maturity, show me the error of my ways so that I can reform and take a job busing jews to Jew York City to save them from murderation.
 
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