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so, the 1st step to add Felipe II and Hirohito is to find/rewrite english pedia articles.

Check the CivGold civilopedia stuff.
 
Could America's spawn date be reconsidered for the next version? I had a lot of not Civ related stuff to do on the computer today, so I loaded up five 3000 BC American starts. AI England had Infantry in Philadelphia two of those five times, getting them by 1800 four out of five times, the end result being that the Pentagon is impossible. The new, late spawn date has severely damaged the American balance. The only date that matches 1776 in historicity is 1607, when the first successful English colony was established. Since America usually vassalizes shortly after spawning (usually to Spain :crazyeye:), and the dynamic name for America as an English vassal is Thirteen Colonies, America can lose a few techs (Liberalism, Rifling, Replaceable Parts, Democracy, Nationalism, Chemistry, and Economics) and spawn then instead.

The big problem with this, of course, is that England places its cities on the East Coast in the 16th century, which would result in it declaring on America rather than accepting it as a vassal. England could be taught to aim for Canada instead, and perhaps to South Africa, Australia, India, etc., ahead of the east coast. I've always thought it was ironic that one of the only instances of successful, thorough AI colonization results in a smaller empire for that civ.
 
Another problem with spawning at 1607 would be the sudden massive colonizing of the American midwest and west before 1800, even by the AI.
 
Hm. According to Wikipedia the first European city in the Midwest was founded in 1668, so that sounds right.
 
The big problem with this, of course, is that England places its cities on the East Coast in the 16th century, which would result in it declaring on America rather than accepting it as a vassal.

Exactly. I think that when there's no New Amsterdam, the English AI should build New York for roleplaying purposes, but no more, and do not declare war on flip, since it amounts to nothing. Of all the times I've played RFC, I've seen England land troops on the soil of newly found USA only once. (I was playing the USA, and the English force was decimated next turn).

If anything, the English declaring war results in a chance of them losing their lightly defended Canadian cities, if they have any by that time.
 
Hm. According to Wikipedia the first European city in the Midwest was founded in 1668, so that sounds right.

New Orleans?

I'm more thinking of Denver, Grand Junction, Los Angeles, Salt Lake City, Chicago, and even Edmonton and Winnipeg all founded by America (who technically doesn't yet exist as an independent nation) before 1750. I understand that sometimes England, Spain, and France go west by that point, but having a Pax America in N.A. before 1800, completely settled, including roads, seems a little much. Dog Warriors are no match for anything protecting a settler (gunpowder units).
 
Sault Ste. Marie, actually. I had never heard of it either. It's in Michigan, so seeing Chicago founded is hardly a stretch. My guess is an America spawning in 1607 would not be given more than one or two Settlers, so it would take a while to get there. Keep in mind that, in practice, the real year is a bit later than the one that's displayed (Stalin becomes Russia's leader in 1820, remember.)
 
Text for Hirohito from the CIV Gold mod:

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<English>Hirohito</English>
<French>Hirohito</French>
<German>Hirohito</German>
<Italian>Hirohito</Italian>
<Spanish>Hirohito</Spanish>
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Hirohito[\H1][NEWLINE][BOLD]Emperor of Japan[\BOLD][NEWLINE][BOLD]Lived: [\BOLD] April 29, 1901 - January 7, 1989[NEWLINE][PARAGRAPH:2][BOLD]Background:[\BOLD][NEWLINE][TAB]Emperor Showa was the 124th Emperor of Japan according to the traditional order of succession, reigning from December 25, 1926 until his death in 1989. In the Western World, he is most known by the name he had while he was alive, Hirohito. The word Showa is the name of the era that corresponded with the Emperor's reign, and was made the Emperor's own name upon his death.[PARAGRAPH:1]Hirohito took the throne on December 25, 1926. Shortly after Hirohito became emperor, Japan's relations with the outside world began to fall apart. In 1927 Japanese army officers, without the agreement of Emperor Hirohito, sparked conflict with Manchuria and later occupied parts of that country. Hirohito soon found his military deeply involved on the Asian mainland.[PARAGRAPH:1]The Manchurian incident ushered in a period of serious unrest within Japan. Young military officers plotted a series of unsuccessful takeovers as well as a number of successful assassinations (secretly planned murders). They hoped to overthrow parts of the government in order to establish a military regime that could govern in the name of "direct imperial rule." In other words, Hirohito would still be called emperor and would be the head of the government, but the military would actually be in control. Hirohito, however, saw himself as part of the state rather than a sole ruler and believed that the leaders of government should be men of moderation and nonmilitaristic in outlook.In July 1937 hostilities with China broke out. During the late 1930s Hirohito's advisers in the palace urged him to stay away from direct involvement in politics or be forced to compromise the position of the imperial family. The emperor followed this advice, and agreed to whatever policies the governments decided upon.[PARAGRAPH:1]There is every evidence that the emperor felt uneasy about the unfolding of events, particularly after 1940. He did not favor the alliance with Germany and Italy in World War II (1939-45), but he made no effort to oppose it. Similarly, he had grown distrustful of the judgments of the military leaders who kept assuring him of a quick end to the war in China. But when the final decision on war with the United States was made on September 6, 1941, he barely opposed it. During the war Hirohito refused to leave the imperial palace at Tokyo, even after air raids began to demolish the city and fires destroyed many buildings on the palace grounds. He wished to share the hardships of his subjects.[PARAGRAPH:1]By the summer of 1945 it was clear that defeat was at hand. But the decision to surrender did not come until after atomic bombs were dropped on the Japanese towns of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. At a historic imperial conference on August 9, 1945, the emperor made clear his opinion in favor of surrendering to the allied powers led by the United States. Following Japan's formal surrender in September 1945, there was much discussion about whether Emperor Hirohito should be punished as a war criminal. Hirohito himself frequently expressed his willingness to step down as a token of his responsibility for the war. But the U.S. authorities, including General Douglas MacArthur (1880-1964), decided that it would better serve the goals of Japanese stability to let him remain as ruler. On January 1, 1946, however, the emperor once and for all gave up any claims to being a sacred ruler by issuing a law that denied his god-like status as a descendant of the sun goddess.[PARAGRAPH:1] During the years of the occupation and afterward, every effort was made to "democratize" the throne by having the emperor mingle with the people. Even though he was personally distant and somewhat awkward in public, the emperor nevertheless became a popular figure. Pictures of the imperial family and stories of their activities became a steady part of weekly magazine and newspaper copy. A respected marine biologist with a number of books on that subject to his credit, Emperor Hirohito lived a modest, sober, and retired life when not involved in official functions. In 1972 he traveled to Europe and was met with hostile demonstrations. A 1975 trip to the United States resulted in a more friendly reception. Hirohito died on January 7, 1989, at the age of eighty-seven. Symbolic of his interest in science and in modernizing his country, Hirohito reportedly was buried with his microscope and a Mickey Mouse watch.</English>
<French>

Hirohito[\H1][NEWLINE][BOLD]Emperor of Japan[\BOLD][NEWLINE][BOLD]Lived: [\BOLD] April 29, 1901 - January 7, 1989[NEWLINE][PARAGRAPH:2][BOLD]Background:[\BOLD][NEWLINE][TAB]Emperor Showa was the 124th Emperor of Japan according to the traditional order of succession, reigning from December 25, 1926 until his death in 1989. In the Western World, he is most known by the name he had while he was alive, Hirohito. The word Showa is the name of the era that corresponded with the Emperor's reign, and was made the Emperor's own name upon his death.[PARAGRAPH:1]Hirohito took the throne on December 25, 1926. Shortly after Hirohito became emperor, Japan's relations with the outside world began to fall apart. In 1927 Japanese army officers, without the agreement of Emperor Hirohito, sparked conflict with Manchuria and later occupied parts of that country. Hirohito soon found his military deeply involved on the Asian mainland.[PARAGRAPH:1]The Manchurian incident ushered in a period of serious unrest within Japan. Young military officers plotted a series of unsuccessful takeovers as well as a number of successful assassinations (secretly planned murders). They hoped to overthrow parts of the government in order to establish a military regime that could govern in the name of "direct imperial rule." In other words, Hirohito would still be called emperor and would be the head of the government, but the military would actually be in control. Hirohito, however, saw himself as part of the state rather than a sole ruler and believed that the leaders of government should be men of moderation and nonmilitaristic in outlook.In July 1937 hostilities with China broke out. During the late 1930s Hirohito's advisers in the palace urged him to stay away from direct involvement in politics or be forced to compromise the position of the imperial family. The emperor followed this advice, and agreed to whatever policies the governments decided upon.[PARAGRAPH:1]There is every evidence that the emperor felt uneasy about the unfolding of events, particularly after 1940. He did not favor the alliance with Germany and Italy in World War II (1939-45), but he made no effort to oppose it. Similarly, he had grown distrustful of the judgments of the military leaders who kept assuring him of a quick end to the war in China. But when the final decision on war with the United States was made on September 6, 1941, he barely opposed it. During the war Hirohito refused to leave the imperial palace at Tokyo, even after air raids began to demolish the city and fires destroyed many buildings on the palace grounds. He wished to share the hardships of his subjects.[PARAGRAPH:1]By the summer of 1945 it was clear that defeat was at hand. But the decision to surrender did not come until after atomic bombs were dropped on the Japanese towns of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. At a historic imperial conference on August 9, 1945, the emperor made clear his opinion in favor of surrendering to the allied powers led by the United States. Following Japan's formal surrender in September 1945, there was much discussion about whether Emperor Hirohito should be punished as a war criminal. Hirohito himself frequently expressed his willingness to step down as a token of his responsibility for the war. But the U.S. authorities, including General Douglas MacArthur (1880-1964), decided that it would better serve the goals of Japanese stability to let him remain as ruler. On January 1, 1946, however, the emperor once and for all gave up any claims to being a sacred ruler by issuing a law that denied his god-like status as a descendant of the sun goddess.[PARAGRAPH:1] During the years of the occupation and afterward, every effort was made to "democratize" the throne by having the emperor mingle with the people. Even though he was personally distant and somewhat awkward in public, the emperor nevertheless became a popular figure. Pictures of the imperial family and stories of their activities became a steady part of weekly magazine and newspaper copy. A respected marine biologist with a number of books on that subject to his credit, Emperor Hirohito lived a modest, sober, and retired life when not involved in official functions. In 1972 he traveled to Europe and was met with hostile demonstrations. A 1975 trip to the United States resulted in a more friendly reception. Hirohito died on January 7, 1989, at the age of eighty-seven. Symbolic of his interest in science and in modernizing his country, Hirohito reportedly was buried with his microscope and a Mickey Mouse watch.</French>
<German>

Hirohito[\H1][NEWLINE][BOLD]Emperor of Japan[\BOLD][NEWLINE][BOLD]Lived: [\BOLD] April 29, 1901 - January 7, 1989[NEWLINE][PARAGRAPH:2][BOLD]Background:[\BOLD][NEWLINE][TAB]Emperor Showa was the 124th Emperor of Japan according to the traditional order of succession, reigning from December 25, 1926 until his death in 1989. In the Western World, he is most known by the name he had while he was alive, Hirohito. The word Showa is the name of the era that corresponded with the Emperor's reign, and was made the Emperor's own name upon his death.[PARAGRAPH:1]Hirohito took the throne on December 25, 1926. Shortly after Hirohito became emperor, Japan's relations with the outside world began to fall apart. In 1927 Japanese army officers, without the agreement of Emperor Hirohito, sparked conflict with Manchuria and later occupied parts of that country. Hirohito soon found his military deeply involved on the Asian mainland.[PARAGRAPH:1]The Manchurian incident ushered in a period of serious unrest within Japan. Young military officers plotted a series of unsuccessful takeovers as well as a number of successful assassinations (secretly planned murders). They hoped to overthrow parts of the government in order to establish a military regime that could govern in the name of "direct imperial rule." In other words, Hirohito would still be called emperor and would be the head of the government, but the military would actually be in control. Hirohito, however, saw himself as part of the state rather than a sole ruler and believed that the leaders of government should be men of moderation and nonmilitaristic in outlook.In July 1937 hostilities with China broke out. During the late 1930s Hirohito's advisers in the palace urged him to stay away from direct involvement in politics or be forced to compromise the position of the imperial family. The emperor followed this advice, and agreed to whatever policies the governments decided upon.[PARAGRAPH:1]There is every evidence that the emperor felt uneasy about the unfolding of events, particularly after 1940. He did not favor the alliance with Germany and Italy in World War II (1939-45), but he made no effort to oppose it. Similarly, he had grown distrustful of the judgments of the military leaders who kept assuring him of a quick end to the war in China. But when the final decision on war with the United States was made on September 6, 1941, he barely opposed it. During the war Hirohito refused to leave the imperial palace at Tokyo, even after air raids began to demolish the city and fires destroyed many buildings on the palace grounds. He wished to share the hardships of his subjects.[PARAGRAPH:1]By the summer of 1945 it was clear that defeat was at hand. But the decision to surrender did not come until after atomic bombs were dropped on the Japanese towns of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. At a historic imperial conference on August 9, 1945, the emperor made clear his opinion in favor of surrendering to the allied powers led by the United States. Following Japan's formal surrender in September 1945, there was much discussion about whether Emperor Hirohito should be punished as a war criminal. Hirohito himself frequently expressed his willingness to step down as a token of his responsibility for the war. But the U.S. authorities, including General Douglas MacArthur (1880-1964), decided that it would better serve the goals of Japanese stability to let him remain as ruler. On January 1, 1946, however, the emperor once and for all gave up any claims to being a sacred ruler by issuing a law that denied his god-like status as a descendant of the sun goddess.[PARAGRAPH:1] During the years of the occupation and afterward, every effort was made to "democratize" the throne by having the emperor mingle with the people. Even though he was personally distant and somewhat awkward in public, the emperor nevertheless became a popular figure. Pictures of the imperial family and stories of their activities became a steady part of weekly magazine and newspaper copy. A respected marine biologist with a number of books on that subject to his credit, Emperor Hirohito lived a modest, sober, and retired life when not involved in official functions. In 1972 he traveled to Europe and was met with hostile demonstrations. A 1975 trip to the United States resulted in a more friendly reception. Hirohito died on January 7, 1989, at the age of eighty-seven. Symbolic of his interest in science and in modernizing his country, Hirohito reportedly was buried with his microscope and a Mickey Mouse watch.</German>
<Italian>

Hirohito[\H1][NEWLINE][BOLD]Emperor of Japan[\BOLD][NEWLINE][BOLD]Lived: [\BOLD] April 29, 1901 - January 7, 1989[NEWLINE][PARAGRAPH:2][BOLD]Background:[\BOLD][NEWLINE][TAB]Emperor Showa was the 124th Emperor of Japan according to the traditional order of succession, reigning from December 25, 1926 until his death in 1989. In the Western World, he is most known by the name he had while he was alive, Hirohito. The word Showa is the name of the era that corresponded with the Emperor's reign, and was made the Emperor's own name upon his death.[PARAGRAPH:1]Hirohito took the throne on December 25, 1926. Shortly after Hirohito became emperor, Japan's relations with the outside world began to fall apart. In 1927 Japanese army officers, without the agreement of Emperor Hirohito, sparked conflict with Manchuria and later occupied parts of that country. Hirohito soon found his military deeply involved on the Asian mainland.[PARAGRAPH:1]The Manchurian incident ushered in a period of serious unrest within Japan. Young military officers plotted a series of unsuccessful takeovers as well as a number of successful assassinations (secretly planned murders). They hoped to overthrow parts of the government in order to establish a military regime that could govern in the name of "direct imperial rule." In other words, Hirohito would still be called emperor and would be the head of the government, but the military would actually be in control. Hirohito, however, saw himself as part of the state rather than a sole ruler and believed that the leaders of government should be men of moderation and nonmilitaristic in outlook.In July 1937 hostilities with China broke out. During the late 1930s Hirohito's advisers in the palace urged him to stay away from direct involvement in politics or be forced to compromise the position of the imperial family. The emperor followed this advice, and agreed to whatever policies the governments decided upon.[PARAGRAPH:1]There is every evidence that the emperor felt uneasy about the unfolding of events, particularly after 1940. He did not favor the alliance with Germany and Italy in World War II (1939-45), but he made no effort to oppose it. Similarly, he had grown distrustful of the judgments of the military leaders who kept assuring him of a quick end to the war in China. But when the final decision on war with the United States was made on September 6, 1941, he barely opposed it. During the war Hirohito refused to leave the imperial palace at Tokyo, even after air raids began to demolish the city and fires destroyed many buildings on the palace grounds. He wished to share the hardships of his subjects.[PARAGRAPH:1]By the summer of 1945 it was clear that defeat was at hand. But the decision to surrender did not come until after atomic bombs were dropped on the Japanese towns of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. At a historic imperial conference on August 9, 1945, the emperor made clear his opinion in favor of surrendering to the allied powers led by the United States. Following Japan's formal surrender in September 1945, there was much discussion about whether Emperor Hirohito should be punished as a war criminal. Hirohito himself frequently expressed his willingness to step down as a token of his responsibility for the war. But the U.S. authorities, including General Douglas MacArthur (1880-1964), decided that it would better serve the goals of Japanese stability to let him remain as ruler. On January 1, 1946, however, the emperor once and for all gave up any claims to being a sacred ruler by issuing a law that denied his god-like status as a descendant of the sun goddess.[PARAGRAPH:1] During the years of the occupation and afterward, every effort was made to "democratize" the throne by having the emperor mingle with the people. Even though he was personally distant and somewhat awkward in public, the emperor nevertheless became a popular figure. Pictures of the imperial family and stories of their activities became a steady part of weekly magazine and newspaper copy. A respected marine biologist with a number of books on that subject to his credit, Emperor Hirohito lived a modest, sober, and retired life when not involved in official functions. In 1972 he traveled to Europe and was met with hostile demonstrations. A 1975 trip to the United States resulted in a more friendly reception. Hirohito died on January 7, 1989, at the age of eighty-seven. Symbolic of his interest in science and in modernizing his country, Hirohito reportedly was buried with his microscope and a Mickey Mouse watch.</Italian>
<Spanish>

Hirohito[\H1][NEWLINE][BOLD]Emperor of Japan[\BOLD][NEWLINE][BOLD]Lived: [\BOLD] April 29, 1901 - January 7, 1989[NEWLINE][PARAGRAPH:2][BOLD]Background:[\BOLD][NEWLINE][TAB]Emperor Showa was the 124th Emperor of Japan according to the traditional order of succession, reigning from December 25, 1926 until his death in 1989. In the Western World, he is most known by the name he had while he was alive, Hirohito. The word Showa is the name of the era that corresponded with the Emperor's reign, and was made the Emperor's own name upon his death.[PARAGRAPH:1]Hirohito took the throne on December 25, 1926. Shortly after Hirohito became emperor, Japan's relations with the outside world began to fall apart. In 1927 Japanese army officers, without the agreement of Emperor Hirohito, sparked conflict with Manchuria and later occupied parts of that country. Hirohito soon found his military deeply involved on the Asian mainland.[PARAGRAPH:1]The Manchurian incident ushered in a period of serious unrest within Japan. Young military officers plotted a series of unsuccessful takeovers as well as a number of successful assassinations (secretly planned murders). They hoped to overthrow parts of the government in order to establish a military regime that could govern in the name of "direct imperial rule." In other words, Hirohito would still be called emperor and would be the head of the government, but the military would actually be in control. Hirohito, however, saw himself as part of the state rather than a sole ruler and believed that the leaders of government should be men of moderation and nonmilitaristic in outlook.In July 1937 hostilities with China broke out. During the late 1930s Hirohito's advisers in the palace urged him to stay away from direct involvement in politics or be forced to compromise the position of the imperial family. The emperor followed this advice, and agreed to whatever policies the governments decided upon.[PARAGRAPH:1]There is every evidence that the emperor felt uneasy about the unfolding of events, particularly after 1940. He did not favor the alliance with Germany and Italy in World War II (1939-45), but he made no effort to oppose it. Similarly, he had grown distrustful of the judgments of the military leaders who kept assuring him of a quick end to the war in China. But when the final decision on war with the United States was made on September 6, 1941, he barely opposed it. During the war Hirohito refused to leave the imperial palace at Tokyo, even after air raids began to demolish the city and fires destroyed many buildings on the palace grounds. He wished to share the hardships of his subjects.[PARAGRAPH:1]By the summer of 1945 it was clear that defeat was at hand. But the decision to surrender did not come until after atomic bombs were dropped on the Japanese towns of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. At a historic imperial conference on August 9, 1945, the emperor made clear his opinion in favor of surrendering to the allied powers led by the United States. Following Japan's formal surrender in September 1945, there was much discussion about whether Emperor Hirohito should be punished as a war criminal. Hirohito himself frequently expressed his willingness to step down as a token of his responsibility for the war. But the U.S. authorities, including General Douglas MacArthur (1880-1964), decided that it would better serve the goals of Japanese stability to let him remain as ruler. On January 1, 1946, however, the emperor once and for all gave up any claims to being a sacred ruler by issuing a law that denied his god-like status as a descendant of the sun goddess.[PARAGRAPH:1] During the years of the occupation and afterward, every effort was made to "democratize" the throne by having the emperor mingle with the people. Even though he was personally distant and somewhat awkward in public, the emperor nevertheless became a popular figure. Pictures of the imperial family and stories of their activities became a steady part of weekly magazine and newspaper copy. A respected marine biologist with a number of books on that subject to his credit, Emperor Hirohito lived a modest, sober, and retired life when not involved in official functions. In 1972 he traveled to Europe and was met with hostile demonstrations. A 1975 trip to the United States resulted in a more friendly reception. Hirohito died on January 7, 1989, at the age of eighty-seven. Symbolic of his interest in science and in modernizing his country, Hirohito reportedly was buried with his microscope and a Mickey Mouse watch.</Spanish>
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Sault Ste. Marie, actually. I had never heard of it either. It's in Michigan, so seeing Chicago founded is hardly a stretch. My guess is an America spawning in 1607 would not be given more than one or two Settlers, so it would take a while to get there. Keep in mind that, in practice, the real year is a bit later than the one that's displayed (Stalin becomes Russia's leader in 1820, remember.)

Sault Ste. Marie is a twin city (half in Michigan, half in Ontario). I did not realize the French had founded it so early.

I still stand by my assertions, though. ;)
 
Well, as it stands America hardly ever makes it to the West Coast, so perhaps it does need to start earlier.
 
America could spawn around 1607 as Britain's vassal and then renounce their protection later on once they become strong enough, possibly leading to a war. :)
 
I'm sorry I don't completely understand your question but I'll try to answer it. One possibility is that some city is already founded, either Jamestown or Washington, and the human takes control of America already as a vasssal. Or, the player could found their own city, but automatically be a vassal of Britain until it gains enough land and soldiers to get rid of them. This is just an idea and it does have limitations as America and Britan would be founding cities side by side which would be weird, but I think it could be an interesting resolution to the America issue while maintaining some historical accuracies. Or there could be a dynamic spawn of America, where the spawn date spawn has some wiggle room and depends on the stability of the countries colonizing it.
 
The human player can't be a vassal. Since England will be building cities in Canada, guarded most likely by Redcoats, before you tech Rifling, the human player would be forced to act like a vassal to some civ.
 
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