v95 - Dido and the Phonecians

[Skojardu]

Is there a specified points per turn for holding ocean tiles? I had Sur and Carthage for a while, but now that I easily gobbled up Greece and reached 600 AD I decided to stop messing with the Persians and check my score and I received... 10 points for ocean tiles? I didn't expect to be so far from 1000...

 

[Skojardu]

I also have to admit even on 7, my experience was pretty easy. I stayed south of Asia Minor which meant the chariot archers only grazed my territory occasionally, while north Africa is quite peaceful compared to Western Asia and I was able to quickly gobble up a strangely weak Greece - they only had 1 hoplite, 1 archer, and 1 trireme to deal with my hungry Quadriremes. The Chariot Archers are also somewhat silly; they continually wail against cities while ignoring boats and units. Perhaps some of the Chariot archers in Anatolia should head towards Persia, some towards Carthage. Jerusalem was a good buffer against barbarians from the Arabian Peninsula.

 

[dissatisfieduser]

I also have to admit even on 7, my experience was pretty easy. I stayed south of Asia Minor which meant the chariot archers only grazed my territory occasionally, while north Africa is quite peaceful compared to Western Asia and I was able to quickly gobble up a strangely weak Greece - they only had 1 hoplite, 1 archer, and 1 trireme to deal with my hungry Quadriremes. The Chariot Archers are also somewhat silly; they continually wail against cities while ignoring boats and units. Perhaps some of the Chariot archers in Anatolia should head towards Persia, some towards Carthage. Jerusalem was a good buffer against barbarians from the Arabian Peninsula.

A weak Greece open for Carthaginian conquest was my experience too, I think maybe if Greece spawns with some more triremes it would be harder to wipe?

 

[Skojardu]

More quirkiness. I have withdrawn to North Africa in anticipation of Saladin grabbing Sur. Persia beats him to the punch. I can kill Immortals occupying Sur with a boat, it holds for a turn, then I put my boat in safe water, and the cycle continues again. Sadly, once Sur is taken, when you retain it, it becomes your capital instead of Carthage. However, Darius blocked himself out here and it looks like he is just going to shoot at it ad infinitum without taking it again. It will earn him many great generals, but it feels weird.

 

[Skojardu]

Oi! I meant to ranged attack a spearman who killed an archer atop the hill by Sur/Tyre but instead I jumped up and shared the tile with the pirate. What happened?

 

[PiR]

This is what I see if I load your game?

 

[Skojardu]

I don't get it; the spearman was there for me, and it doesn't appear for you?

 

[PiR]

Isn't it 1 tile above on my screenshot?
What if you load your own game?

 

[Skojardu]

I will play another round of Dido and try to replicate the error.

 

[Skojardu]

I didn't have the same situation, but wowie is it fun being able to surprise someone over a mountain with a more mobile troop. It makes it particularly safe to gobble up the Italian peninsula and hide behind the Alps from France / Germany but be able to surprise them with a hop over the mountains. The elephants having 3 movement points is excellent for this purpose (and perfectly flavored), however you need to be careful having your units follow their own way to a tile - they often kill themselves by resting on top of mountains at end of turn (especially workers, ugh!)

 

[Skojardu]

Why does my capital revert to Sur if I recapture it?

Following up playing on v96, I am back playing Dido out of sympathy for poor New Phoenicia (Lebanon), and I am wondering if it is an error that, once you settle Qart Hadasht, your capital moves there, but once Cyrus takes Sur, when I take it back with my Quinquerimes, it reverts to being my capital. I think my capital should stay Qart Hadasht independent on what chicanery I am doing with Sur (trapping Cyrus' immortals inside, letting him retake it, and picking off his army one by one until he relents and lets me keep those tasty ocean tiles.) Is this a nudge from the game telling me to abandon West Asia and switch to colonizing north Africa and southern Spain, or is this a bug? (Also, it is impossible to raze someone's capital? Maybe the issue is that the game considers it my own capital? I was tempted to raze Sur before I realized its value, but I couldn't)

 

[Rhye]

i don't know, it's probably hardcoded.

 

[Skojardu]

I avoided Sur getting captured by going Archery first and posting some defensive Archers there. I ended up winning, smoking India who only had 350 points or something. I will have to try playing Dido at higher than 4 difficulty