v96 Montezuma

[Skojardu]

Wowie was it hard to figure out what to do. I lost a bit trying out Montezuma until I buttered up Japan with gifts and let them kill Tlaxcala for me. I have a couple questions;

Natives as farming kills (VPs for Aztecs)
First, Pathfinder natives populate the area north of Tlaxcala and they are like shooting fish in a barrel. Should they run away when you attack them with arrows? Should they try to fight back? It helped me pad my score, but their behavior seems undeveloped.

Is Hiawatha functionally a Pirate? Should he declare war on me or Pachacuti as fellow natives?
Should Hiawatha declare war on me since I am a fellow Native American? I know that the natives were never one allied bloc against colonization; I just thought that Hiawatha was Old World focused.

Should Hiawatha's city be specifically a Pirate Stronghold? It seems strange that it has an opinion of me (like a Minor Civ), but I can also interact with Hiawatha through the diplomacy screen. (It also needs a name other than "City") If you take over this one city, is Hiawatha finished, or do Pirate citys pop up to review him and his defense of North America? England had a colony and a mustketman that brought the "City" to near zero health but England collapsed and the colony became a city ruins and the Musketman disappeared from my view.

I compare Hiawatha to the Huns a bit. Should the Huns have a Pirate Stronghold in that region northwest of Constantinople where the two gold sources are?

 

[Rhye]

whaaat
very odd. Let me see what happened

 

[Rhye]

that City shouldn't be there. Possibly a settler stolen from the English? Is it possible to do that?

 

[Skojardu]

I'm not sure. Are you assigning me to play Hiawatha?

 

[Rhye]

that's a good idea. Can you please investigate on that? Founding cities should be forbidden for natives

 

[Skojardu]

OK, I've captured two settlers, they automatically were demoted to workers, and they auto-died a turn after. I will start another game and try again. I will try to capture a city (hard!)

One thing I notice is that Hiawatha's "move through friendly forests as if they were roads" never triggers so my Mohawk warriors are just as clumsy in forests as the Europeans. Since all of America being neutral is "friendly" to Hiawatha, how difficult would it be for his troops to move through neutral territory as if they were roads?

Two possible fixes:
a) Change "friendly forests" to "neutral"
b) Give all units under Hiawatha woodsman (although this wouldn't have the units have hindered movement in European territory)

 

[PiR]

although this wouldn't have the units have hindered movement in European territory

what's the probability of crossing the ocean?

 

[Skojardu]

what's the probability of crossing the ocean?

Natives going nautical? Maybe the Aleutians who are effectively excluded from the mod due to Alaska being surrounded by mountains and scarcely accessible. The Wampanoags who initially pushed back against the English, as well as the Iroquois, were land-based. However the natives got a better chance at beating the Europeans when they got in the saddle.