Venezuela Needs A Pinochet

[FriendlyFire]

Yes. You shoot people who are actively fighting the government and are foreign funded communist guerillas, who have been sent into your country to murder and rape your people.

Communist only ?
A communist rule with farm seizures and forced collectivism would have been disastrous but a right wing dictatorship wasn't much better either. Including economic mismanagement, corruption and brutal repression

 

[Honor]

Hey, @RomanKing - I understand your position, and your ideology, but I am more interested in who you are. What is your story?

 

[Broken_Erika]

Most so called "Communist" states were little more than Left-Wing Dictatorships with craptacular economic policies.

 

[Perfection]

@RomanKing don't tarnish rightful scorn of the abhorrent Maduro regime with praise for other monsters. This isn't the place for left-right bickering, it place for us to make a stand as decent human beings.

Venuzuela doesn't need or left-wing or right-wing dictator, it needs leaders up for the arduous task of crafting sound and effective state institutions and a political system that is actually responsive to the needs of the people.

 

[Broken_Erika]

Maduro seems to think that the people are enemies of the people.

 

[Wartron]

When the left has lost the argument censorship is always their last desperate resort.

An admission of their defeat.

Yeah... no. I was making a prediction that this thread would get locked like the last one. It's not a matter of if, but when

 

[RomanKing]

Yeah... no. I was making a prediction that this thread would get locked like the last one. It's not a matter of if, but when

You desperately hope so because all of you have lost the argument.

The left's "love" for Hispanics is completely disingenuous. Liberals are morally bankrupt and only care about their ideology and they're willing to harm their own citizens and enable communist authoritarians in Latin America to advance it. It's disgusting and I say that as someone who is Hispanic and is from that part of the world.

So much for "allowing minority voices to be heard and have a platform." Looks like that's another Democrat lie as well.

 

[FriendlyFire]

The left's "love" for Hispanics is completely disingenuous. Liberals are morally bankrupt and only care about their ideology and they're willing to harm their own citizens and enable communist authoritarians in Latin America to advance it. It's disgusting and I say that as someone who is Hispanic and is from that part of the world.

Thats right the Right love Mexicans whom are rapist and Murders.
Vote for the Right because they love "Hispanics" with real love not completely disingenuous fake love.

 

[RomanKing]

Thats right the Right love Mexicans whom are rapist and Murders.
Vote for the Right because they love "Hispanics" with real love not completely disingenuous fake love.

Many illegals that the Democrats allow to pour across the southern border are. That's simply a fact.

And no sane person would want those kinds of people in their country.

Love is keeping your citizens safe and protecting the reputation of honest legal immigrants by not allowing criminal aliens the opportunity to tarnish the reputation of all Hispanics. Republicans treat Hispanics just like any other American citizen. It's called equality and justice - The Democrats should take notes.

 

[FriendlyFire]

equality and justice ? sounds communistic

If you want to talk about the Meth epidemic in Rual America, and how the culture of drug use is deeply embedded. When we want to speak about honest reputations of what is part of the real problem rather then simply blaming Mexican immigrants
But that is likely another entirely different thread. The main point is Right wing authoritarianism is not much better then Left wing authoritarianism
Choose your poison.

 

[RomanKing]

equality and justice ? sounds communistic

You need to learn the difference between claiming to support those words and actually practicing them.

Actions speak louder than words.

rather then simply blaming Mexican immigrants

Illegal aliens are not immigrants. They're criminals.

An immigrant follows a legal process and obtains citizenship. The left really needs to stop molesting the English language.

 

[Honor]

So, what kind of a world are you imagining for humanity in general?

 

[FriendlyFire]

Illegal aliens are not immigrants. They're criminals.
An immigrant follows a legal process and obtains citizenship. I know the left loves to molest the English language.

And the good people employing them are criminals too ?
What about all those Meth users that have created the massive demand for illegal drugs. those people are criminals too ?
Because guess what, thats the Right wing base for Republicans

Sure the communist are despicable, horrific and no one in there right mind would want a communist government.
But wanting a Fascist dictatorship is just as undesirable, and equally disastrous choice.
A functional democracy would be best, at least until we develop an AI Polity.

 

[Flying Pig]

Moderator Action: This is going a long way off topic. In the interests of fairness, a final nudge before I hit the lock button:

1. No more personal discussion. RomanKing is not the subject of this thread. Neither is any other poster, their politics, their living situation, and so on.
2. This thread is supposed to be about Venezuela, the problems with the Maduro government, and what could be done about them. It is not about 'the left', methamphetamine, or Margaret Thatcher.
3. If you are going to discuss Pinochet, take particular care to keep things civil and on-topic. Please also remember that defending, advocating or glorifying human rights abuses is not allowed.

If this turns into yet another flame-war about how 'the left' or 'the right' are terrible, it will be closed.

 

[Perfection]

Illegal aliens are not immigrants. They're criminals.

An immigrant follows a legal process and obtains citizenship. The left really needs to stop molesting the English language.

Note how it doesn't mention if it's legal or not.

Is Marriam Webster molesting the English languages?

Perhaps it would be nice to walk back on your outlandish claim.

 

[Yeekim]

@RomanKing don't tarnish rightful scorn of the abhorrent Maduro regime with praise for other monsters. This isn't the place for left-right bickering, it place for us to make a stand as decent human beings.

Venuzuela doesn't need or left-wing or right-wing dictator, it needs leaders up for the arduous task of crafting sound and effective state institutions and a political system that is actually responsive to the needs of the people.

This.
Regardless of how sound his economic policies were, Pinochet was a murderer, torturer and embezzler.
Venerating him like that is just wrong.

 

[RomanKing]

Note how it doesn't mention if it's legal or not.

Is Marriam Webster molesting the English languages?

Perhaps it would be nice to walk back on your outlandish claim.

"a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence."

If you are in violation of the country's immigration laws, in which you are residing, and are subject to deportation, you are not a permanent resident. Only citizens are permanent residents.

It's really straight forward and I'm tired of having to talk to liberals like they're children and explain basic grammar. Just stop molesting the English language and everyone can put this sort of nonsense behind them.


Back to Venezuela. It's looking like they're on the path to having a coup, or civil war; all thanks to the socialist party's dangerous extremism and complete disregard for the welfare of it's citizens.

 

[JollyRoger]

As a Hispanic who legally immigrated

A true capitalist would be offended that there was a such thing as a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant. It is acceptance that the state can suppress the free market flow of labor.

 

[RomanKing]

A true capitalist would be offended that there was a such thing as a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant. It is acceptance that the state can suppress the free market flow of labor.

I guess you don't believe that patents, or trademarks are good things either.

A country's economy is for the benefit and well being of it's citizens not foreigners, but feel free to keep promoting leftist extremism. Promoting anarco-labour policies while shilling for socialism and communist tyrants is so irrationally hypocritical that one must stand in true bemusement as to how you think you are making some sort of point.

Really what you're advocating is some sort of inconsistent dystopian system which destroys prosperity entirely, but you don't actually have any real viewpoint. You're just desperately trying to score some petty point for your "team," while attempting to pose as an intellectual. Both of which, you have repeatedly failed at.

"Go back to Latin America" and "abolish our border with Latin America" is your bi-polar contribution to this thread.

 

[Sommerswerd]

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