I brought this up before in 9/25 thread, and it unfortunately turned into blaming who insults whom. I really want to hear as many opinions on this as possible. I do not pretend, that i would be glad to see some symphatizers, because that mechanic in its current state slightly gets on my nerves( not that hard,but....), but normal disscusion or opposite view can not hurt anything. I really do not want to turn it off, because it would set a warmongers into dissadvantage. I'll go straight to the point. I just don't see any reason, why should be vassals partially untouchable, especially those volunteer ones. I remember, that in versions about year ago, THAT was happening to, and a community decided to get rid off it. I would gladly hear, what changed their mind on this. In a fact, i would love this feature, as a kind of an alliance, if there were a simple defensive pact implemented in a such deal. I feel sorry for an AI neighbouring a vassal. They clearly express an intentions to attacking them, but are unable to do so. And while a slight single runaway can become a target for hate, for DoW deals etc. ,vassals can't. I want to hear just one reason, why they shouldn't be targetable for DoW. It is not like a rest of the world is able to form similar pact and keep a step. I believe, that that mechanic could be improved a lot to actually make a sense, add more fun and not being just a bothering thing for a human player, and an obstacle for AI. I understand, that this would require maybe a lot of work. That is why am i asking for opinions in a first place. I hope it is understandable. I am poor at using a proper tenses.