Vote for your 3 civs you would most like to see (Part II : Eastern Europe) ?

[Liufeng]

Here comes the second poll, focused on Eastern Europe, with the frontiers being the Caucasus on the east and the Berlin Wall on the west, excluding the Turkey and its previous and Cyprus, which will be on another poll.
As before, the rules are very simple : you vote for the 3 civs you would most like to see in Civilization VI (may it be DLC or Expansion packs), and we will see the results. Every week, a new poll will come out, focusing on another part of the world. At the end of this little game, I will display the final results of the polls, and finally see the most wanted civs for Civilization VI.

If you wish to vote in the first poll, which was focused on Western Europe, you can do it here : https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...e-part-i-western-europe.606097/#post-14586452

I thank you all for your participation in this great project which I'm enjoying very much ! The nest poll will be diplayed on next friday.

 

[Ikael]

Great to see! Ok, here are my choices:

Armenia: A very different concept of what is an European civilization, and a good way to pay homage to that little nation
Byzantium: One of the most powerful empires on Earth, its inclussion is kinda self explanatory
Thracians: A more ancient era flavoured civ, and one that it is massively underrated to boot

 

[TomKQT]

Definitely Bohemia (Czech). That country has a very long history and had some important kings, for example Charles IV who was even Holy Roman Emperor (btw this year it was exactly 700 years from his birth).
That country (my country, as you probably already quessed) was not in any Civ game and it definitely should be.
Duch of Bohemia first appeared around 870, previously the area was part of Samo's Empire and before Samo it was populated by Celts.

 

[Zaarin]

I voted Georgia, Byzantium, and Hungary. As a civilization, I'd prefer to see Armenia, but with Civ6's leader focus I think Tamar would fit in perfectly. No need to comment on Byzantium. As for Hungary, it has a long tradition of being a regional power, with a rich culture, plus it's probably the only real opportunity to have a European civilization that doesn't speak an Indo-European language (I don't really see the Basque or Finns being high priority, and while the Etruscans may be worthy we simply don't have an adequate grasp of their language).

 

[Guandao]

voted Bulgaria, Hungary, and Georgia. I feel like Byzantium will get enough votes anyways. Plus Poland is basically confirmed. I voted Bulgaria because I find its history interesting (plus Preslav is a city-state in the game), Hungary for the language and plus they were a regional player in the Middle Ages, and Georgia for representing the Caucasus and having Tamar as a leader.

 

[Vahnstad]

Byzantium
Hungary
Poland

 

[Louis XXIV]

This was harder. I voted for Byzantines as the obvious choice. I think Poland will be in eventually, so I'll pick them. I doubt the Huns will be in due to the Scythians being there. Given everything, I voted for Armenia as the final one. It's a fascinating Civ for late antiquity/early medieval that was essentially a key component in the wars between the Byzantines and the Sassanid Persians. They're also an ancient culture that was prominent for centuries.

I was tempted to pick the Minoans as an "Other" choice separate from the Greeks, but there's too many questionmarks.

 

[Guandao]

This was harder. I voted for Byzantines as the obvious choice. I think Poland will be in eventually, so I'll pick them. I doubt the Huns will be in due to the Scythians being there. Given everything, I voted for Armenia as the final one. It's a fascinating Civ for late antiquity/early medieval that was essentially a key component in the wars between the Byzantines and the Sassanid Persians. They're also an ancient culture that was prominent for centuries.

I was tempted to pick the Minoans as an "Other" choice separate from the Greeks, but there's too many questionmarks.

Who do you prefer as the leader of Armenia in Civ6? Tigranes or Tiridates?
Minoans are better represented as a Knossos city-state. Knossos is still on the Greek city list, unfortunately.

 

[Zaarin]

I was tempted to pick the Minoans as an "Other" choice separate from the Greeks, but there's too many questionmarks.

Minoans are better represented as a Knossos city-state. Knossos is still on the Greek city list, unfortunately.

I would love to see city-states used to represent some of the civilizations that were important but too lacking in data to make a full civilization: Cahokia, Olmecs (already present as La Venta), Mahenjo-daro, Minoans (Knossos), Etruscans (Tarchna or Veia), Elam (Anshan), Urartu (Tushpa), etc.

 

[Halcyan2]

East Rome (Byzantium) easily wins the vote for me.

I'll also throw a sympathy vote for Tamar of Georgia....

 

[Lord of War N02]

Byzantium, Poland and Hungary(Hungary need to be in Civ 6)

 

[Louis XXIV]

Who do you prefer as the leader of Armenia in Civ6? Tigranes or Tiridates?

Tigranes is really the only name I recognized off the top of my head, so him.

Minoans are better represented as a Knossos city-state. Knossos is still on the Greek city list, unfortunately.

Most Civs that are city-states can be represented as a Civ if they wanted to. The Minoans are one of the more visually distinct Civs - they're quasi-Egyptian, quasi-Greek, but uniquely their own. There are too many flaws with them (our inability to understand Linear A makes language the first big questionmark), but there are some interesting things as well.

I would love to see city-states used to represent some of the civilizations that were important but too lacking in data to make a full civilization: Cahokia, Olmecs (already present as La Venta), Mahenjo-daro, Minoans (Knossos), Etruscans (Tarchna or Veia), Elam (Anshan), Urartu (Tushpa), etc.

That's fair enough. I've made an argument in the past for ways to make the Mississippians a Civ. The leader, unfortunately, wouldn't be from Cahokia, though, which probably isn't putting the best foot forward for the Civ.

 

[Xandinho]

Byzantium and Poland are my most obvious choices. I voted for Hungary too, this last is a wish of inclusion.

Romania and Bulgaria would be also good options.

 

[Zaarin]

That's fair enough. I've made an argument in the past for ways to make the Mississippians a Civ. The leader, unfortunately, wouldn't be from Cahokia, though, which probably isn't putting the best foot forward for the Civ.

Yeah, in the case of the Mississippians, the real problem isn't that we don't have leaders or languages--we do--the problem is that all of our solid historically-attested facts about the civilization(s) come from the period when they were already on the brink of collapse.

 

[Phrozen]

Voted Byzantium, Poland, Bohemia. Bohemia should have a brewery special building so you can have an achievement for building a brewery in Pilsen.

 

[Liufeng]

I was tempted to pick the Minoans as an "Other" choice separate from the Greeks, but there's too many questionmarks.

Gosh ... As I hard as I try to include every civ possible (or possible) on the list, some people always the one I just didn't think about it ! Can't say if you're picky or geniuses !

 

[Guandao]

Gosh ... As I hard as I try to include every civ possible (or possible) on the list, some people always the one I just didn't think about it ! Can't say if you're picky or geniuses !

Impressive as the Minoans were, much about their actual language is unknown. Many theories exists, including those with an Indo-European affinity and those without IE (Semitic, for example).

 

[Zaarin]

Impressive as the Minoans were, much about their actual language is unknown. Many theories exists, including those with an Indo-European affinity and those without IE (Semitic, for example).

I've never heard an attempt to connect Minoan with Semitic or any branch of Afroasiatic (though I'm sure they exist--there's even a fascinating theory that Indo-European is Afroasiatic ). The most popular theory seems to be the "Aegean" hypothesis connecting it with Etruscan and Rhaetian. Given that we know virtually nothing of Minoan, however, any attempt at classification is rather premature...

 

[Guandao]

I've never heard an attempt to connect Minoan with Semitic or any branch of Afroasiatic (though I'm sure they exist--there's even a fascinating theory that Indo-European is Afroasiatic ). The most popular theory seems to be the "Aegean" hypothesis connecting it with Etruscan and Rhaetian. Given that we know virtually nothing of Minoan, however, any attempt at classification is rather premature...

Yeah, it's difficult for linguists to translate the Minoan script, due to lack of bilingual inscriptions.

 

[Guandao]

Byzantium and Huns, since (I think?) they're the only ones who got pretty powerful.

And Germania is basically just Germans, right?

Germania probably refers to the Germanic "tribes" in general. Ex: Arminius, Goths, Vandals, Burgundians etc