Vote for your 3 civs you would most like to see (Part IV : Central Asia) ?

[Liufeng]

Hello everyone, here comes the fourth poll on your three most wanted civs, focused on nomadic and central Asia civs. Going from the Zagros in the South-west, the Volga in the north-west, the Siberia to the north, the Gobi in the north-east, the Himalaya (excluded) in the South-east, and Ceylan in the South.
The rules, as always, is to vote for the three civs you'd like to see in Civ VI among those on the list, and discuss the results. Don't hesitate to justify your votes and discuss them ! Have fun!

If you didn't vote for one of the former polls, you can still do it here :
Part I (Western Europe) : https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...ost-like-to-see-part-i-western-europe.606097/
Part II (Eastern Europe) : https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...st-like-to-see-part-ii-eastern-europe.606569/
Parti III (Western Asia) : https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...ost-like-to-see-part-iii-western-asia.606991/
I thank you all for your participation, truly !

 

[ComradeDavo]

Persia (whole), The Mongols, The Timurids

 

[Xandinho]

Persia (whole) and Mogols are the most obvious choices in the poll.
My third choice, I was split between Kievan Rus, Khazaria and Indus Valley civilization. Although any of the three are a good choice, I will opt for the Indus Valley, given that this is one of the oldest civilizations in the world.

 

[Guandao]

So I chose Persia (whole), the Mongols, and the Mughals. I'm interested in the Mauryans and Gupta, but I think they should be considered part of India. I believe the Mughals are different enough to be considered a separate civ. Their unique improvement/district/or building wouldn't be the Stepwell. Their unique unit might be another elephant type unit.
Indus Valley civilization is one civ I rather not see, since their leaders are unknown due to undeciphered script. Picking an Indo-Aryan or Dravidian language for the leader to speak would piss off certain people.
I find it strange to see Pergamon on this poll, since it's located in present-day Turkey. Also, Parthians appear twice in this poll. And no Cholas (to represent ancient Southern India) or Sri Lanka as a choice?

 

[Liufeng]

So I chose Persia (whole), the Mongols, and the Mughals. I'm interested in the Mauryans and Gupta, but I think they should be considered part of India. I believe the Mughals are different enough to be considered a separate civ. Their unique improvement/district/or building wouldn't be the Stepwell. Their unique unit might be another elephant type unit.
Indus Valley civilization is one civ I rather not see, since their leaders are unknown due to undeciphered script. Picking an Indo-Aryan or Dravidian language for the leader to speak would piss off certain people.
I find it strange to see Pergamon on this poll, since it's located in present-day Turkey. Also, Parthians appear twice in this poll. And no Cholas (to represent ancient Southern India) or Sri Lanka as a choice?

Well, it was a bit too late when I noticed the Parthians were there twice, and unfortunately, I edit them out ... About Sri Lanka and the Chola however, I've just add them in the as you suggested (sorry, but since I don't have an encyclopedic mind, I may slip some civs either because I forgot about them or because I just didn't know them, which in this case is the first category ). You're also very right about Pergamom, and you could even say that Kievan rus should be on east europe poll ... but I forgot, «repaired» my mistake by adding them here !

 

[Zaarin]

I'm not as familiar with Central Asia as I am the Near East, but my choices would be Persia (Achaemenid or Sassanid), Parthia, and Bactria.

The Indus Valley civilization is simply not feasible to make into a civ. We know nothing about their language (maybe it was Proto-Dravidian, but that's an assumption based on location with no corroborating evidence) and we know nothing about their leaders. Same problem as Minoa or the Olmecs. I wouldn't mind seeing Mahenjo-daro as a city-state, though.

 

[Xandinho]

I'm not as familiar with Central Asia as I am the Near East, but my choices would be Persia (Achaemenid or Sassanid), Parthia, and Bactria.

The Indus Valley civilization is simply not feasible to make into a civ. We know nothing about their language (maybe it was Proto-Dravidian, but that's an assumption based on location with no corroborating evidence) and we know nothing about their leaders. Same problem as Minoa or the Olmecs. I wouldn't mind seeing Mahenjo-daro as a city-state, though.

Unfortunately it's true, I have to agree with you. The knowledge about such cultures is very obscure, which compromises their additions to the game. However, Mahenjo-daro would be very welcome as a city-state.
I have an appreciation for very ancient and mysterious civilizations, even though they are not viable as Civs.
Indus Valley and Olmec are good proposals for mods, though.

 

[Baba Khan]

So this is why Persia wasn't included in the other poll—it's here. Well, it's the most obvious choice, as a whole. Mongols next. The Ilkhanate would be awesome, but I doubt we will see it. I hope we'll see the Mughal Empire—it can be fused with India, with Akbar as its leader. His din-e elahi fits the current bonus of India ("Receive the benefits of all Follower beliefs of Religions present in your cities, not just the one you founded"). Give us the Taj Mahal and a Golden Age and I'll be happy.

 

[Vahnstad]

Persia (pre-Islamic), mongols & Timurids

 

[Liufeng]

Well, in my case, I voted for Persia (pre-islamic), the Mongols and Khazaria.
I guess I have no need to justify the Mongols.
About Persia, I couldn't justify to add a Persian civilization that would go from the Achemenids to modern Iran, because they're simply are too different. I feel like I can't accept that, because it would mean I would have to accept a french civ, for example, that would go from the Celts to modern France, and not complain if Vercingetorix would be added as the leader of France. If I had a fifth vote, I think it would have gone to a islamic Persia (or Iran), because it is sad to have cities such as Tehran, Tabriz, Isfahan, Shiraz or Yazd left out.
Khazaria is, for me, a fascinating civ to add, because they were a main power during the High miiddle-age in Central Asia, being the most "civilized" among the different groups of nomads and long lasting allies of the Byzantines, even providing them some empresses. Plus, they had a kind of big empire to go along with it. I feel like Civilization (or western education) should leave the european centre and focus on other centres. If the Eastern Roman Empire was a new centre, we would already have some civs that were powerful in their prime, like Armenia, Bulgaria or the Khazars ...
If I could have had a fourth vote, I believe it would have gone to the Mughals, for the same reasons some have already stated before.

 

[Comandante]

The Mongols are so obvious. Who wouldn't want to see Genghis Khan?

 

[Turrdy]

I think you put in Parthia twice (once as Parthians, and once as Parthian)

 

[Manifold]

Bactria would be a nice idea. It could be a Civ that mix every culture together in some way. So Bactria could use the UA, UI, UB of their neighboring civs e.g. a Bactrian city get the unique stuff of the next foreigner city. Also they have no problems with cities after they have conquered it, like unhappiness.

 

[Hian the Frog]

Pre Islamic Persia. After it's no more a persian civ.
Vijayanagara: a powerful dravidian Hindu civ.

 

[durfal]

Nr 1 Mongoia and nr 2 Persia (as a whole) were easy.
For my nr 3 I could take any of the many Indian states but I went with a less obvious one Uzbek mostly because of the importance of Samarkand and Tashkent in the Silk route.

 

[Zaarin]

Nr 1 Mongoia and nr 2 Persia (as a whole) were easy.
For my nr 3 I could take any of the many Indian states but I went with a less obvious one Uzbek mostly because of the importance of Samarkand and Tashkent in the Silk route.

Hmm, a Sogdian civilization would be interesting. We have a language and city names, plus we know they were religiously diverse (Zoroastrian, Manichaean, Nestorian Christian, etc.), which could make them an interesting mix of religious and economic. More difficult would be finding a leader. On the other hand, Catherine de Medici and Gandhi suggest that actually being the leader isn't an important criterion to Firaxis, and their presentation of Sumer shows that they're completely willing to make stuff up, so how about Roxana, Alexander the Great's Sogdian wife?

 

[Guandao]

Hmm, a Sogdian civilization would be interesting. We have a language and city names, plus we know they were religiously diverse (Zoroastrian, Manichaean, Nestorian Christian, etc.), which could make them an interesting mix of religious and economic. More difficult would be finding a leader. On the other hand, Catherine de Medici and Gandhi suggest that actually being the leader isn't an important criterion to Firaxis, and their presentation of Sumer shows that they're completely willing to make stuff up, so how about Roxana, Alexander the Great's Sogdian wife?

Ryanjames had Gurak as the leader of his Sogdiana civ

 

[Zaarin]

Ryanjames had Gurak as the leader of his Sogdiana civ

He's probably the best choice.