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Vra-04 - How do you Rhyme with 'Z' Or God Have Mercy!

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession Games' started by vra379971, Jul 26, 2008.

  1. vra379971

    vra379971 Chieftain

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    *looks up from book*

    Few people know of how important the Ethiopians are to the world. Called the Land of the Gods by Egypt, it appears in the Iliad and the Odyssey, it was the home to Pharaoh Taharqa, who was called by Strabo, along with Cyrus and Xerxes, one of the ancient world's best military commanders (most likely due to the defense of Jerusalem against the Assyrian army.) So, while Zara is not one of the country's best...

    Zara Yaqob
    Emperor - Beyond the Sword
    Size - Normal
    Speed - Epic
    Big and Small Map
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    Victory conditions....

    Win in either Cultural, Religious or Space Style.
    We must go to the defense of any Civ who owns the Holy City of our chosen religion (and seek to maintain a small garrison there).
    We may not found a religion.

    Taking my cue from a fine SG idea I saw, we will separate into three advisory groups to honor Ethiopian history...

    The Cultural Group, the Religious/Diplomatic Group and the Space Team.

    Each group is of course trying to win their victory condition, and led Ethiopia to glory by their hand. To block any overly unfair moves, there will be Core Rules.

    Core Rules:

    1) You MAY interrupt, but NOT CANCEL BUILDINGS in progress UNLESS the city is under imminent threat of attack.

    2) Wonders and/or civics changes need two teams to agree on building/using them. All teams MUST vote. Entering Wars also need two teams to vote in favor as well. Also, Wonders can't be interrupted unless troops are WITHIN city limits!

    3) In the case of diplomatic votes, the religious/diplomatic team will have say over how to vote. In addition, all missionary Go-To orders must be obeyed. Furthermore, if available, the diplomatic team has full control over the building of the UN and the AP.

    4) In the case of the Space Elevator and Casings, the Spacers will have full control over building of them (when and where).

    5) Cultural team gets full control on GA,
    Space for GSci and
    Religious Diplomacy for GP.
    GG, GSpy and GE usage needs 2 factions to agree.

    6) Culture CANNOT be built by a CITY.

    7) Two members, one team and one vote. So, work out those disputes!

    ==

    I'm good with these. To facilitate faster play, as things go along I will ask teams to choose a general position on how they wish to respond to diplomatic entreaties...which, unless for war, the team playing can choose to ignore...mind you, there is an element of Karma...

    ====

    So, looking for 4-6...

    Cultural Group (Full)
    1) classical_hero
    2) mystyfly
    Religious/Diplomatic Group (Full)
    3) vra379971
    4) Yamps
    Space Group (Full)
    5) LKendter
    6) Quechua
     
  2. LKendter

    LKendter Chieftain Supporter

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    Interesting idea, but my poor laptop doesn't handle large maps well.
     
  3. vra379971

    vra379971 Chieftain

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    Well, we could do normal. Will add you to the list then. Which of the three teams would you like?
     
  4. LKendter

    LKendter Chieftain Supporter

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    Since there is no domination group, I don't care which group I am in.
     
  5. Tatran

    Tatran Chieftain

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    @LK
    Isn't this way beyond your level of play?
     
  6. Quotey

    Quotey Chieftain

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    I think LK could do Emperor on SP confidently :).
     
  7. classical_hero

    classical_hero In whom I trust

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    While I normally play on Prince/monarch on SP games, I will give this a go for the cultural part of this game, since it is perhaps the easiest part of the game.
     
  8. vra379971

    vra379971 Chieftain

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    It'll be an honor to have you here =)

    Three more spots!

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    And yeah, I considered Conquest and Domination, but that just isn't in the Ethiopians blood, and would cause too much of a conflict between the teams. (Specifically, would hurt any kind of diplo victory, and could severly injure a UN vote - no matter, this ia a bit of a builder Civ anyway...)
     
  9. Quechua

    Quechua Unique Unit

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    I'd be interested in space.
     
  10. LKendter

    LKendter Chieftain Supporter

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    I totally missed this was immortal. I don't want to be the weak link in the game. Please take me off the list.
     
  11. vra379971

    vra379971 Chieftain

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    Wait. I wrote immortal? Whoops.

    *fixes*

    ...Two more spots folks.
     
  12. Tatran

    Tatran Chieftain

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    So, when the culture group starts building wonders everywhere, the others
    have to sit and wait until they're finished.
    Or when a city isn't undersiege anymore, continue building what it was doing before the attack.

    Maybe every group should have its own cities, so this rule isn't causing a lot of frustration.
     
  13. vra379971

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    That is true, and admittedly having a city of your own might work better. Will give it some thought and discuss it with the whole team, we need just two more sign-ups...
     
  14. mystyfly

    mystyfly Knight of Cydonia

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    I'd join you if you need one more for the cultural group. I usually play immortal but don't have much experience with the (IMO) very interesting Cultural Victory.

    RE rules:
    In case we get close to, say, diplo victory, we should try to avoid that?! Sounds weired :lol: At least it shouldn't be that hard... But when there are three groups in the roster playing "against" eachother, winning at all coule prove difficult...
     
  15. vra379971

    vra379971 Chieftain

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    Added, one more now, and we'll open discussions on the ground rules.
     
  16. mystyfly

    mystyfly Knight of Cydonia

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    I don't think it will be able to win via diplo as it's too easy to avoid that. So probabely make 2 3man teams, one space, one culture.

    And we gotta restrict our empire size ;)
     
  17. mystyfly

    mystyfly Knight of Cydonia

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    And, I think, we HAVE to use a spiritual civ unless you want to get a save with 2-3 turns of anarch at the beginning of every set :p
     
  18. vra379971

    vra379971 Chieftain

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    mystyfly: Nah, it should be still possible - will propose the exact rules I have in mind shortly.
     
  19. vra379971

    vra379971 Chieftain

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    Here are my rules proposal.

    1) You may not interrupt BUILDINGS in progress UNLESS the city is under imminent threat.

    2) Wonders and/or civics changes need two teams to agree on building/using them. All teams MUST vote.

    3) In the case of diplomatic votes, the religious/diplomatic team will have say over how to vote. In addition, all missionary Go-To orders must be obeyed. Furthermore, if available, the diplomatic team has full control over the building of the UN and the AP.

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    This should settle it. Due to the fact that these are somewhat peaceful victory conditions, teams will work together most of the way...though, I must admit, there are a few wonders that simply won't get built.
     
  20. mystyfly

    mystyfly Knight of Cydonia

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    OK

    looking foreward to a hard game :thumbsup:
     

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