W W II- Things my old teacher told me..

You can't really expect people who have lost family and friends
to EVER treat the Germans and Japanese the same as everyone else. They started WW1 and WW2. My dad served thoughout
WW2 and after you see yer friends killed and are told yer
brothers and cousins have been killed. You hate the people
who started it.

Those people are almost all dead now, let the hatred die with
them. They treated the axis far, far better than the axis would
have treated them. If they curse them let them be, they let
the defeated axis live and rebuild their shattered lands. They
were far more merciful than I would have been.

My Dad's generation has a reason, nobody else does.
 
Originally posted by Ozz
You can't really expect people who have lost family and friends
to EVER treat the Germans and Japanese the same as everyone else. They started WW1 and WW2. My dad served thoughout
WW2 and after you see yer friends killed and are told yer
brothers and cousins have been killed. You hate the people
who started it.

I don't, but you were born after the war weren't you?


Those people are almost all dead now, let the hatred die with
them. They treated the axis far, far better than the axis would
have treated them.

My Dad's generation has a reason, nobody else does.

well said, very well said. The point I was trying to make all the way is indeed, that there is no reason anymore to treat different or hate because those generations are almost gone. Of course kids heard stuff from their parents where they were upset about, but the chance they'll meet a German that actually did something like that to someone else is getting smaller every day.

If they curse them let them be, they let
the defeated axis live and rebuild their shattered lands. They
were far more merciful than I would have been.

Remember the WW I outcome? Exactly, very tough conditions, major payments, lot of lost territory (happened in WW II as well, great part of Prussia became Polish), etc., etc. The moment the treaty of Versailles was signed, WW II was born. If you don't know what I'm talking about I'm willing to explain, but I think you know what I mean.
 
Originally posted by willemvanoranje
I don't, but you were born after the war weren't you?

Remember the WW I outcome? Exactly, very tough conditions, major payments, lot of lost territory (happened in WW II as well, great part of Prussia became Polish), etc., etc. The moment the treaty of Versailles was signed, WW II was born. If you don't know what I'm talking about I'm willing to explain, but I think you know what I mean.

Yeah, but i remember them when they were'nt old men, The scar
went real deep. I don't think you or I could ever really understand
them, not really. The ones who wanted to tell the stories were
the ones who really didn't suffer.

Versaillies is no excuse. The Kaisier could have said no. Germany
could have and did say no later (flying, occuption of the Rhineland). I think the rape of the Austria shows what was really
going on.
 
Originally posted by Ozz


Yeah, but i remember them when they were'nt old men, The scar
went real deep. I don't think you or I could ever really understand
them, not really. The ones who wanted to tell the stories were
the ones who really didn't suffer.

no one could ever. I don't think they wouldn't talk about it, my grandpa always talked about his fear for the Germans, for the bombers, about being thrown in prison for stealing wood from the metroline to heat the house. My German grandma talked about being kicked out of her home near the end of the war, the house being plundered, cows, pigs and pets being killed, the (seeming) endless refugee line where people kept walking in their sleep... maybe what you mean are the more drastical things, like being in a camp or something, then I must agree, I never heard my mom's uncle talk about his 10 years enprisonment in Russia as a PoW.

Versaillies is no excuse. The Kaisier could have said no. Germany
could have and did say no later (flying, occuption of the Rhineland). I think the rape of the Austria shows what was really
going on.



The Kaiser had already fled to Holland in 1917, drawing his own conclusions from the war. Germany wasn't able to say no, they had no choice. Economically on the bottom, social on the bottom, approaching the bottom military...they had no choice. One thing is sure, Hitler was just a man with a bit too much sadistic imaginations and fantasies, and the awful ability to make them real.
 
Originally posted by Ozz
You can't really expect people who have lost family and friends
to EVER treat the Germans and Japanese the same as everyone else. They started WW1 and WW2. My dad served thoughout
WW2 and after you see yer friends killed and are told yer
brothers and cousins have been killed. You hate the people
who started it.

Those people are almost all dead now, let the hatred die with
them. They treated the axis far, far better than the axis would
have treated them. If they curse them let them be, they let
the defeated axis live and rebuild their shattered lands. They
were far more merciful than I would have been.

My Dad's generation has a reason, nobody else does.
Hey, almost everybody's grandads or dads fought in the war. Both of mine did and so did some of my uncles. One died, my grandfather saw some of his friends get killed. He told me about his commander, one of his best friends, be ripped up by a machine gun. There aren't any soldiers who fought in the war and didn't suffer atleast a little.
 
So if they didn't want to sit down and eat dinner with some germans or japanese would you blame them? Thats the point
i was trying to make. They might not be able to handle it. (mentally).
 
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