[RD] War in Gaza News: Pas de Deux
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It is those taken during the military action that I was referring to. Just as Russia holding civilians in Ukraine is a war crime Israel doing it in Gaza is.
Lexicus
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I don't mean empty in the sense that they won't actually do anything, I mean empty in the sense that what Trump threatened is what already happened under Biden, which got us to the present situation.
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I still wouldn't bet on equalizing them. Trump has been notorious for defying underestimation, especially in this increasingly troubling, authoritarian second administration.
So we've gone from the naive hope that Trump would somehow behave more positively than Biden/Harris to the "meh, they're the same" equalization. If Palestine is "lucky", it'll stay the same.
But there's ample room for the orange man to make matters even worse, to Netanyahu's elation. He has threatened to make resettlement official and US-supported, even with active American military involvement. Disregard that at your own peril.
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Lexicus
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Only thing that's changed is how they talk about it.
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With the same overall effects. The democrats and republicans are not actually in opposition on this is the point: they are two heads of a self-justifying snake that can always blame the other even though the body of the beast still gets fed. The democrats were perfectly happy to pave the road here and in fact anyone who criticized them was a racist. There’s ample evidence they lost the election because of it, because the racial justice and black/brown lives matter people would not abide them. The democrats made zero effort to reclaim them which functionally turned the reins of the state over to the republicans. Now I’m not saying it is actually just a performance and that nothing is on the line or democrats don’t individually or even necessarily collectively care, but you have to look at their real material interests and their actions to decide where their heart lies. Did they throw a bone to the Palestinian rights people? No, completely the opposite. There was no political space whatsoever to arrest the Israeli locomotive on this issue. And now of course the “worse” head is in charge, and no doubt things will be worse than before, but they also became worse than before after October 7 and under the Dems’ watch. We knew, back then, exactly where the Israeli government’s priorities lied and what they intended to achieve. They had no interest whatsoever in clemency and they saw an opportunity to act drastically. The time to stop them was back then. So if anything that makes the Dems Chamberlain, and they blew it. Now that Gaza is already destroyed and Trump is only president two months they can annex the West Bank. If you are telling people the democrats wouldn’t let this happen you are living in a fantasy world, because they did, and they are, and they will.
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UN official accuses Israel of weaponising aid to Gaza
The head of the UN agency for Palestinian refugees, Unrwa, has accused Israel of weaponising humanitarian aid with its blockade of goods and electricity into Gaza.Speaking in Geneva, Philippe Lazzarini warned of a renewed hunger crisis if aid supplies did not resume.
Israel stopped the entry of all aid at the beginning of the month, accusing Hamas of rejecting a US proposal to extend the first phase of the Gaza ceasefire.
It also cut off electricity over the weekend - a move the UK and Germany have condemned - with Energy Minister Eli Cohen saying the move aimed to "bring back all the hostages and ensure that Hamas is no longer in Gaza the day after [the war]."
When the truce began, aid supplies increased tenfold, easing food shortages and restoring some health services.
Now those supplies have been blocked and electricity to a major water desalination plant has been cut.
UN Secretary-General António Guterres's spokesman said this would substantially reduce the availability of drinking water in Gaza.
"The Secretary-General is very concerned about Israel's decision to limit the electricity supply going into Gaza. This latest decision will substantially reduce the availability of drinking water in the Gaza Strip," said Stephane Dujarric.
"Starting today, the facility is set to run on backup generators, which will reduce water production capacity. Restoring this connection is vital for tens of thousands of families and children."
The Israeli government has further said it has not ruled out cutting off water supplies.
Mr Lazzarini also criticised Israel's move to cut off aid and electricity, saying an increasing impact on the population could be expected.
"Obviously, the risk is that we go back to a situation we experienced months ago about deepening hunger in the Gaza Strip," he said.
"Whatever the intent is, it's clearly a weaponisation of humanitarian aid into Gaza. We have seen the situation is deteriorating very, very quickly."
Israel has banned Unrwa amid claims some of its staff support Hamas and says other aid agencies should step in. But they too are being blocked from Gaza.
Mr Lazzarini said the only viable alternative to the agency was "capable Palestinian institutions... in a Palestinian state".
Unrwa was continuing to operate in Gaza and the West Bank, he said, adding that the Israeli ban had left it facing "serious operational challenges".
Israeli negotiators were due in Qatar for talks on extending the ceasefire in Gaza.
Israel wants Hamas to accept an extension of the first phase of their ceasefire.
But Hamas wants to start negotiations on the ceasefire's second phase, which would see the release of the remaining hostages from Gaza, withdrawal of Israeli forces and a permanent end to war.
Hamas is believed to be holding 24 living hostages as well as the bodies of 35 others.
Hamas's attack in October 2023 killed around 1,200 people, mostly civilians, inside Israel and saw 251 people taken hostage. Most have been released in ceasefire agreements or other arrangements.
Israel's military offensive has killed more than 48,000 Palestinians in Gaza, mostly women and children, according to the Hamas-run health ministry, which does not say how many of the dead were fighters.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8mz8d0p35o
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UN report accuses Israel of genocidal acts and sexual violence in Gaza
Israel refused to co-operate with UN commission, accusing it of bias
Israel carried out "genocidal acts" against Palestinians by systematically destroying women's health-care facilities during the conflict in Gaza, and used sexual violence as a war strategy, United Nations experts say in a new report.In its report released Thursday, the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and Israel said the use of heavy explosives in civilian areas and Israeli attacks on hospitals and health facilities.
It said all three led to "disproportionate violence against women and children."
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejected the report's findings, saying they were biased and antisemitic.
"Instead of focusing on the crimes against humanity and war crimes committed by the Hamas terrorist organization ... the United Nations once again chooses to attack the state of Israel with false accusations," he said in a statement.
Israel disengaged from the Human Rights Council in February.
"Israeli authorities have destroyed in part the reproductive capacity of the Palestinians in Gaza as a group, including by imposing measures intended to prevent births, one of the categories of genocidal acts in the Rome Statute and the Genocide Convention," said the UN commission's report.
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The report accused Israel's security forces of using forced public stripping and sexual assault as part of their standard operating procedures to punish Palestinians following the Hamas-led attacks on southern Israel in October 2023.
The resulting war in the Gaza Strip has killed more than 48,000 Palestinians, according to Gaza health officials.
IDF says policies 'prohibit such misconduct'
The commission also accused Israeli security forces of rape and sexual violence against Palestinian detainees. Israel denies any systematic abuse of prisoners and says it takes action when there are violations.Israel has rejected the accusations.
"The IDF [Israeli Defence Force] has concrete directives ... and policies which unequivocally prohibit such misconduct," the permanent mission to the UN in Geneva responded in a statement, adding that its review processes are in line with international standards.
A previous report published by the commission in June 2024 accused Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups of serious rights violations in the 2023 attacks, which killed 1,200 people and resulted in 251 hostages, according to Israeli tallies.
In March last year, a team of United Nations experts said there were "reasonable grounds to believe" sexual violence, including rape, occurred at several locations during the militant group's assault.
The commission is led by former UN human rights chief Navi Pillay. Its findings can be used as evidence for the International Criminal Court or other bodies that seek to prosecute war crimes.
Israel is party to the Genocide Convention and was ordered in January 2024 by the International Court of Justice to take action to prevent acts of genocide during the war against Hamas.
It is not party to the Rome Statute, which gives the International Criminal Court jurisdiction to rule on individual criminal cases involving genocide and crimes against humanity.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/united-nations-israel-gaza-genocidal-acts-sexual-violence-1.7482419
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US and Israel just going to move Palestinians to Congo and Somalian.
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AP Exclusive: US and Israel look to Africa for moving Palestinians uprooted from Gaza
The U.S. and Israel have reached out to officials of three East African governments to discuss using their territories as potential destinations to move Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.
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Aid workers killed in Israeli air strike in Gaza, charity tells BBC
A team of charity workers has been killed in Israeli strikes in northern Gaza, the UK-registered Al Khair Foundation has told the BBC.The charity said eight people - including its volunteers and independent journalists documenting their activities - were killed when their vehicles were targeted on Saturday in what Hamas described as a "blatant violation" of the ceasefire agreement with Israel.
The Israeli military has said it had struck "two terrorists who were identified operating a drone that posed a threat to Israeli troops", adding that it then targeted "additional terrorists" who arrived at the scene.
The charity rejects the allegation that members of its team were terrorists.
Qasim Rashid Ahmad, founder and chairman of the charity, told the BBC the team was in the area to set up tents and document it for the charity's own promotion efforts.
He said that the cameramen came back to the car and were hit, while its team members who rushed to the scene were then struck by an Israeli drone which had followed them when they went to the charity's second car.
But the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said it had targeted people operating a drone who posed a threat to Israeli troops in Beit Lahia, adding: "Later, a number of additional terrorists collected the drone operating equipment and entered a vehicle. The IDF struck the terrorists."
Video editor Bilal Abu Matar and cameramen Mahmoud Al-Sarraj, Bilal Aqila and Mahmoud Asleem were all named as having been killed in the strike, according to the Palestinian Journalists Syndicate.
The organisation accused Israel of carrying out "systematic targeting of Palestinian journalists, who risk their lives to report the truth and expose Israeli crimes to the world".
Several others were injured in the strike, and rushed to the Indonesian Hospital in the northern Gaza Strip, the Hamas-run health ministry said.
A spokesman for the group, Hazem Qassem, accused Israel of having "committed a horrific massacre in the northern Gaza Strip".
A ceasefire between Israel and Hamas has been in place since January, after 15 months of fighting, but its future is uncertain as the process has reached an impasse.
The first phase of the multi-stage deal saw Hamas return dozens of hostages, both alive and dead, that it had captured during its attacks on Israel on 7 October 2023, in exchange for about 1,800 Palestinian prisoners held by Israel.
Talks to extend the first phase of the ceasefire - which ended on 1 March - ended without an agreement, a Palestinian official told the BBC on Saturday.
Negotiators were working on a US-proposed extension, which would include a further exchange of hostages and prisoners.
Washington accused Hamas of making "entirely impractical" demands. The group has demanded immediate talks on the second phase, including discussions of a permanent ceasefire, as laid out in the agreement brokered by Qatar, Egypt and the US in January.
Hamas's unprecedented assault on Israel on 7 October 2023 saw about 1,200 people killed and 251 others taken to Gaza as hostages.
Israel responded with a massive military offensive on the Palestinian territory, which has killed more than 48,300 people, Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry says.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20d4ylyx57o
Trump wants his Gaza Beach HotelUS and Israel just going to move Palestinians to Congo and Somalian.
AP Exclusive: US and Israel look to Africa for moving Palestinians uprooted from Gaza
The U.S. and Israel have reached out to officials of three East African governments to discuss using their territories as potential destinations to move Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.
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Israel conducting 'extensive strikes' on the Gaza Strip
The Israeli military says it is carrying out "extensive strikes" in the Gaza Strip.In a statement, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said it was targeting what it called "terror targets" belonging to Hamas.
Three houses were hit in Deir Al-Balah in central Gaza, a building in Gaza City, and targets in Khan Younis and Rafah, Reuters reported, citing medics and witnesses.
This is the largest wave of airstrikes in Gaza since the ceasefire began on 19 January. Talks to extend the Gaza ceasefire have failed to reach an agreement.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Israel Katz ordered the strikes on Tuesday morning, according to a statement from the PM's office.
"This follows Hamas's repeated refusal to release our hostages, as well as its rejection of all of the proposals it has received from US Presidential Envoy Steve Witkoff and from the mediators," it said.
"Israel will, from now on, act against Hamas with increasing military strength," it added.
The plan for the strikes "was presented by the IDF over the weekend and approved by the political leadership", it said.
Negotiators have been trying to find a way forward after the first phase of the temporary truce ended on 1 March.
The US proposed extending the first phase until mid-April, including a further exchange of hostages held by Hamas and Palestinian prisoners held by Israel.
But a Palestinian official familiar with the talks told the BBC that Israel and Hamas disagreed over key aspects of the deal set out by Witkoff at the indirect talks.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9vy3k4dpz0o
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Number killed rises to more than 400, says Hamas-run health ministry
The Hamas-run health ministry has given an update on the number killed.In a post on Telegram, it says 404 people have been killed by the Israeli air strikes.
On its Whatsapp channel, it gives a slightly higher figure of 413.
The ministry adds that some victims are still trapped under the rubble.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/czje23jd779t
Lexicus
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Kind of, yeah. At least until Israel suspended all aid into the strip.
