[RD] War in Gaza News: Pas de Deux

I guess the 2 month ceasefire is over. :sad:
Correct me if I'm wrong but it actually ended at the beginning of March. We simply did not see a resuming of fighting until now.

We were supposed to be entering a "phase 2" by which the Israel IDF would withdraw from Gaza entirely in exchange for the remainder of the hostages, but a part of me thinks the Israelis knew within their hearts that that arrangement was never going to be possible.
 
"Hitler had promised not to invade Poland, but part of me thinks he knew within his heart that that arrangement was never going to be possible"
I think Hamas being more analogous to the other guy who also killed a bunch of Jews would be the more apt comparison. But keep trying.
 
Moderator Action: This is not a Hitler thread.
 
I think Hamas being more analogous to the other guy who also killed a bunch of Jews would be the more apt comparison. But keep trying.
Jews are people. Israel is killing a lot of people.

Unless you meant to imply that Jews aren't people :eek:
 
Moderator Action: Sadly for those people, we are interested in a constructive discussion and those who are not will find themselves unable to discuss anything.
 
From a longer CNN story.

Like Putin, Netanyahu has political goals​

The breakdown of the ceasefire in Gaza shows the limitations that the administration has so far faced in converting initial peace breakthroughs into more lasting agreements. This is a trend that could augur ill for the Ukraine peace process.

Many US observers have long believed that Netanyahu never wanted to move beyond the recently elapsed first stage of a ceasefire deal to end a war that erupted after the Hamas massacre of Israeli civilians on October 7, 2023.

Tuesday was the deadliest day in over 15 months in Gaza, according to a CNN tally, after Israeli forces struck multiple targets. More than 400 people were killed, Palestinian authorities said.

Netanyahu said he launched new attacks because Hamas refused to release remaining hostages or accept a US proposal to extend the Gaza ceasefire, despite a pause in Israel’s military activity. Hamas, however, insisted that it had not rejected the US proposal and that it wanted to see the ceasefire prolonged. But the hardline Islamic group also had little incentive to release the remaining living hostages, who represent a final, callous bargaining chip in a conflict that Netanyahu promises will only end when the group has been eradicated.

Protesters demand the release of hostages held in the Gaza Strip, in Tel Aviv, Israel, on March 18, 2025.

Protesters demand the release of hostages held in the Gaza Strip, in Tel Aviv, Israel, on March 18, 2025.
Ariel Schalit/AP
“This is only the beginning,” the Israeli prime minister said Tuesday.

Netanyahu, who has been on trial for corruption, reaped immediate political gains for his decision to reignite the war. Far-right Israeli politician Itamar Ben-Gvir said he’d rejoin the government along with his Otzma Yehudit, or Jewish Power, party. This shored up the Likud prime minister’s political position ahead of a difficult set of budget negotiations that could threaten the longevity of his government.

The return to warfare also meant that Netanyahu’s corruption trial was postponed temporarily. Many of the prime minister’s critics believe that he’s deliberately prolonged the war in Gaza to forestall a case that could see him sentenced to jail time if he is convicted.

Like Putin, for whom the Ukraine war has become an existential cause, Netanyahu may need to keep war raging to solidify his hold on power. But Trump, their fellow strongman, has his own massive political incentives for silencing the guns.

Sooner or later, the US president may face tough political choices that he’s so far put off.


 

Israel cuts off access to main Gaza highway after launching deadly airstrikes​

Around 600 people have been killed since Tuesday, according to tallies from Gaza officials

Israeli strikes killed at least 58 Palestinians across the Gaza Strip overnight and into Thursday, according to three hospitals. The strikes hit multiple homes in the middle of the night, killing men, women and children as they slept.

Hours later, the Israeli military restored a blockade on northern Gaza, including Gaza City, that it had maintained for most of the war. It warned residents against using the main highway to enter or leave the north and said only passage to the south would be allowed on the coastal road.

Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians returned to what remains of their homes in the north after a ceasefire took hold in January. Israel resumed heavy strikes across Gaza on Tuesday, shattering the truce that had facilitated the release of more than two dozen hostages. Israel blamed the renewed fighting on Hamas because the militant group rejected a new proposal that departed from their signed agreement.

Meanwhile, the Israeli military also said it intercepted a missile launched by Yemen's Iran-backed Houthi rebels early Thursday before it reached Israeli airspace, as air raid sirens and exploding interceptors were heard in Jerusalem. No injuries were reported.

It was the second such Houthi attack since the United States began a new campaign of airstrikes against the rebels earlier this week.

U.S. strikes, which began on Saturday over the Houthis' attacks against Red Sea shipping vessels the past 18 months, have killed at least 31 people.

'Another tough night'​

One of the Israeli airstrikes on Gaza early Thursday hit the Abu Daqa family's home in Abasan al-Kabira, a village just outside of Khan Younis near the border with Israel. It was inside an area the Israeli military ordered evacuated earlier this week, encompassing most of eastern Gaza.

The strike killed at least 16 people, mostly women and children, according to the nearby European Hospital, which received the dead. Those killed included a father and his seven children, as well as the parents and brother of a month-old baby who survived along with her grandparents.

"Another tough night," said Hani Awad, who was helping rescuers search for more survivors in the rubble. "The house collapsed over the people's heads."

There was no immediate comment from the Israeli military on the latest strikes.

The military says it only targets militants and blames civilian deaths on Hamas because it is deeply embedded in residential areas.

Attacks intensify, with no sign of new talks​

More than 400 Palestinians were killed on Tuesday alone, mostly women and children, according to Gaza's Health Ministry.

On Wednesday, Israeli ground troops advanced in Gaza for the first time since a ceasefire took hold in January, seizing part of a corridor separating the northern third of the territory from the south.

Israel, which has also cut off the supply of food, fuel and humanitarian aid to Gaza's roughly two million Palestinians, has vowed to intensify its operations until Hamas releases the 59 hostages it holds — 35 of whom are believed dead — and gives up control of the territory.

The U.S. administration under Donald Trump, which took credit for brokering the ceasefire, says it fully supports Israel.

Hamas has said it will only release the remaining hostages in exchange for a lasting ceasefire and a full Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, as called for in the ceasefire agreement they reached in January after more than a year of mediation by the United States, Egypt and Qatar.

A temporary first phase of the ceasefire ended at the start of this month. Hamas wants to move to an agreed second phase, under which Israel would be required to negotiate an end to the war and withdrawal of its troops, and Israeli hostages held in Gaza would be exchanged for Palestinian prisoners.

Israel has offered only a temporary extension of the truce, cut off all supplies to Gaza and says it is restarting its military campaign to force Hamas to free remaining hostages.

The resumption of airstrikes has sent Palestinian residents again fleeing for their lives from homes they had begun to reinhabit among the ruins of the devastated enclave.

The war started after Hamas militants attacked Israeli communities on Oct. 7, 2023, killing 1,200 people including several Canadian citizens while taking more than 250 hostages, by Israeli government tallies.

More than 49,000 Palestinians have been killed in the ensuing conflict, according to Gaza's health authorities, with the enclave reduced to rubble.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israeli-airstrikes-gaza-1.7488423
 
Here comes the threat to annex parts of Gaza.


"I ordered (the army) to seize more territory in Gaza... The more Hamas refuses to free the hostages, the more territory it will lose, which will be annexed by Israel," Katz said in a statement.

Should Hamas not comply, Katz also threatened "to expand buffer zones around Gaza to protect Israeli civilian population areas and soldiers by implementing a permanent Israeli occupation of the area".

Katz has been Minister of Defence for 4.5 months now.
 
Gee, isn't there a word for killing people and taking their land?
 
I keep saying the only thing that has changed about US and Israeli policy toward Gaza is how both governments are talking about it. Rather than the Orwellian nonsense we got from the Biden administration, we are now getting much more honest threats from the Trump administration, and the Israelis seem to have completely discarded what little rhetorical restraint they exercised when Biden was president.
 
I fail to understand why folks consider "business as usual" from the part of Hamas holding civilian hostages from a massacre they committed over a year ago. But if Israel goes nuts on this they are "plain evil". Maybe Hamas should stop giving Israel a really good justification for going guns blazing?
 
I fail to understand why folks consider "business as usual" from the part of Hamas holding civilian hostages from a massacre they committed over a year ago. But if Israel goes nuts on this they are "plain evil". Maybe Hamas should stop giving Israel a really good justification for going guns blazing?
What justification? Hamas wanted to release the hostages. Israel refused to advance to the second phase of the ceasefire.
 
Was Hamas unable to release the hostages before!?
 
They have already done so under the first stage of the ceasefire.
 
They released them all the moment they had opportunity for it!?
 
Nobody used the word all until you just now. Good to see you acting in good faith. :rolleyes:
 
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