[RD] War in Gaza: News Thread

Isreal = is real ?
 
I suspect that Twitter/X has a time limit or cooling off period for trending topics, so changing the spelling every so often can kind of game the system.

Ah, gotcha. Kind of like how 'jab' was used for 'vaccine' back in 2021-2022.
 
This is probably best to post here.
Varoufakis was banned from entering Germany and taking part (even through zoom/scype etc) in any event there. On account of pro-Palestine views.
Of interest to add is that his party is actually running in a number of euro countries for the euro election - including in Germany.

It is a follow up from yesterday, when german police stopped a conference for Palestine:

The germans are fanatically defending the genocidal policies of a failed state at a time when the whole world is coming to despise is and that its military is being broken. Germans never ceased being obedient little puppets to whatever fuhrer and mis-identidying whom to obey to. As usual they're going to be on the loser's side. Germany is sinking itself. Good for Europe. Foch was right. And Morgenthau was right.
 
Nah, that's just a nickname that's been used for as long as I can remember for things like flu vaccines. For example in 2010 from the national broadcaster when small kids were having reactions to that years influenza vaccine: "Parents recount flu jab nightmare"
 
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Ah, gotcha. Kind of like how 'jab' was used for 'vaccine' back in 2021-2022.
I think that is just the influence of some of the other Anglophone countries. Again, I don’t know their internals but I would think some of the trending topics would span the whole of the countries that use that language.
 
I think that is just the influence of some of the other Anglophone countries. Again, I don’t know their internals but I would think some of the trending topics would span the whole of the countries that use that language.

People are lazy, or if you like, efficient with the spoken and texted english language.

Why use a three syllable word "in-ject-ion" when one single syllable word "jab" will do.
 
I suggest you read this sentence from the article you linked again:
Yeah, that wasn't what I was talking about. But I've done my job in providing the links, and I pointed out the salient information they provided. As the old adage goes - you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink :)

Anyhow, in other actual news, a USAID worker living in Jaffa was reportedly killed.
The Tweet said:
New: An internal memo from Samantha Power on the killing of a USAID official in Israel (a 20 year veteran): “Colleagues -

It is with immense sadness that I share the devastating news that Jacob Toukhy, a beloved member of our USAID/West Bank and Gaza Mission, was killed near his home in Jaffa today. Jacob was a 20 year veteran of USAID, and his death comes as a huge shock to our West Bank and Gaza team and our entire USAID family. Jacob is survived by his mother and his six and eleven year old daughters.

Our teams in Washington and at the Mission are working with U.S. Embassy colleagues to ascertain details about the circumstances of his death. We are also working with the Mission to provide more information about how USAID staff can offer support to Jacob’s family and recognize his tremendous service.

Jacob’s death is being felt deeply and widely. I encourage you all to take care of yourselves—including by utilizing Staff Care resources—and to support each other in the days and weeks ahead.

Samantha”
 
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I think that is just the influence of some of the other Anglophone countries. Again, I don’t know their internals but I would think some of the trending topics would span the whole of the countries that use that language.

One reason we started doing it was because facebook, youtube, etc had started monitoring anything that mentioned 'vaccine' and adding informational blurbs on top of the image/post/etc.

Anyway, with the amount of drones Israel shot down, maybe they'll call it tit for tat. Can't imagine Israel wants escalation with Iran at the moment.
 
Drones are pretty cheap - when compared to warplanes. Not sure what the ratio of cost to Iran (from lost drones/missiles) to the cost for the defense was (flying/using ammunition/other).
You must always take into consideration the cost of the targets if the drones/missiles are not intercepted.
 
Drones are pretty cheap - when compared to warplanes. Not sure what the ratio of cost to Iran (from lost drones/missiles) to the cost for the defense was (flying/using ammunition/other).

1. We have an official IDF tweet, which says 300 aerial objects were launched, 99% shot down. The tweet specifies which types were downed, so here's my guess:

30 Cruise missiles - $1 mil each. (low end estimation)
120 Ballistic missiles- $2 mil each.
170 UAV's $30k each. (±$5 mil)

That adds up to $275 mil.

2. Cost calculation
  • Iron Dome Cost: 238 interceptions x $70,000 each = $16.66 million
  • David's Sling and Arrow Cost: 59 interceptions x $2 million each = $118 million
Total cost of intercepting 297 threats with a combination of Iron Dome, David’s Sling, and Arrow = $134.66 million

3. There was cost of operating jets and the whole military apparatus for the period, on both sides ... feel free to estimate.
4. No side officially publishes real expenditure figures for each element, so it's all guesswork based on analogous costs in the west and other places.
 
1. We have an official IDF tweet, which says 300 aerial objects were launched, 99% shot down. The tweet specifies which types were downed, so here's my guess:

30 Cruise missiles - $1 mil each. (low end estimation)
120 Ballistic missiles- $2 mil each.
170 UAV's $30k each. (±$5 mil)

That adds up to $275 mil.

2. Cost calculation
  • Iron Dome Cost: 238 interceptions x $70,000 each = $16.66 million
  • David's Sling and Arrow Cost: 59 interceptions x $2 million each = $118 million
Total cost of intercepting 297 threats with a combination of Iron Dome, David’s Sling, and Arrow = $134.66 million

3. There was cost of operating jets and the whole military apparatus for the period, on both sides ... feel free to estimate.
4. No side officially publishes real expenditure figures for each element, so it's all guesswork based on analogous costs in the west and other places.
This is not my field at all, but someone shared with me a TRT article claiming that Israeli media puts the total cost of interception at $1.35 billion
 
This is not my field at all, but someone shared with me a TRT article claiming that Israeli media puts the total cost of interception at $1.35 billion
That was closer to my suspicion too - that this type of attack simply costs far less for the attacker than the defender; at least if you plan to defend against it and try to not get hit.
Implied is that Iran can, if it wants to, use a method of exhaustion. Announcing the attack made the cost (along with the ability) for defense also rise.
 
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While all the attention is on this story what's happening in Gaza?
 

“Reports on Israeli army forces allowing the return of the Palestinian population to the northern Gaza Strip area are false and completely baseless rumors,” Adraee wrote on X, adding that “the Israeli army does not allow the return of residents, neither through Salah al-Din Street nor through Al-Rashid Street Street.”

Adraee warned Palestinians against approaching Israeli forces in the northern Gaza Strip.

“The northern Gaza Strip is still a war zone and we will not allow a return to it,” he said.
 

Deadly West Bank settler attacks on Palestinians follow Israeli boy's killing​

In the Israeli-occupied West Bank, a group of Israeli settlers storm a Palestinian village and, captured on CCTV, a masked man sets fire to a car parked in a garage, under the watch of at least three Israeli soldiers.

The incident was part of a rampage by Israeli settlers that, according to local officials, killed four Palestinians over four days.

The violence was triggered by the disappearance of 14-year-old Binyamin Ahimeir, who went missing on Friday after leaving his settler outpost to herd sheep near the Palestinian village of Mughayir, in the Ramallah area.

His body was found a day later, and the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said he had been killed in a "terrorist attack".

Amid the search for the boy, dozens of settlers, some of them armed, raided Mughayir. They burned homes and cars, and killed a 25-year-old man named Jihad Abu Alia with a shot in the chest, according to Palestinian officials.

Sameh Abu Alia, his cousin, said Jihad, who would get married in June, was trying to prevent the settlers from storming the family's house.

"It wasn't the first time settlers attacked us. But we weren't expecting a huge number of them," he said.

"They shot at the water tanks, the electricity network, and the internet. They were planning to isolate us from the outside world."

Settlers, armed with guns and stones, returned to the village on Saturday. Shaul Golan, a photographer for the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth, said he was attacked by a group of between 20 to 30 people, some of whom were armed and wearing IDF uniforms, as he hid under a table in one of the burned houses while trying to cover the rampage.

"They beat me mercilessly, breaking my finger and taking my bag to burn all of the photography equipment inside," he said in an interview published on the newspaper's website.

"I laid on the floor, as every one of them kicked me in the head and stomach… They had hate in their eyes."

Violence spread to other areas. In the village of Dayr Dibwan, CCTV video shared by Yesh Din, an Israeli human rights group, showed masked settlers entering a private garage and setting a vehicle on fire, while Israeli soldiers stand watching.

Responding to the footage, the IDF said the incident was being examined and that the soldiers would "be dealt with accordingly", Reuters reported.

In nearby Beitin on Saturday a 17-year-old boy, Omar Hamed, was killed after being hit by a bullet in the head in an attack by a group of 30 settlers who had been accompanied by Israeli forces, Palestinian officials said.

It was not clear whether he was shot by Israeli forces or settlers.

After the boy's body was found, Israeli authorities warned people against revenge. But across the West Bank, Yesh Din, an Israeli human rights group which monitors West Bank violence, received reports of attacks on 10 villages and towns, with extensive damage to property and livestock.

"The attacks were of an unprecedented scale. I can't remember a day when we saw so many places attacked at once. It was a very violent day with hundreds of settlers," said Ziv Stahl, the group's director.

"In many places there were soldiers who were not only allowing them to do whatever they wanted but also providing them protection. We see that in a lot of cases, but [on Saturday] it was caught on camera".

On Monday, two Palestinians - 30-year-old Abdul Rahman Bani Fadel and 21-year-old Mohammad Bani Jamea - were shot dead during an attack by dozens of settlers, many of them armed, near the town of Aqraba, south-east of Nablus in the northern West Bank, according to local officials. The Israeli military said it was looking into the incident.

"We're concerned that the settlers might come back," Salah Bani Jaber, the mayor of Aqraba, said. "The Israeli army and police are not preventing them from attacking Palestinian villages and towns...

"The settlers are planning to push us out from our land."

Across the West Bank, Israeli raids killed three Palestinians - 17-year-old Yazan Ishtayeh in Nablus on Monday, and Mohammad Shahmawi, 22, and Mohammad Rasoul Daraghmeh, 26, a suspected Hamas member, in Tubas on Friday.

Around 700,000 Israelis live in 160 settlements alongside 2.7 million Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, according to the settlement watchdog Peace Now.

Almost all of the international community regards the settlements as illegal, although Israel disputes this.

There are also about 160 so-called outposts, or small settlements which have been built without official approval and are considered illegal under Israeli law.

Tensions were already high before 7 October, when Hamas launched a deadly attack on Israel, sparking the war in Gaza. Since then, more than 460 Palestinians have been killed in the West Bank, according to the Palestinian health ministry.

Those deaths includes armed fighters amid a rise in raids by the Israeli military on Palestinian towns and villages.

In the same period, at least 13 Israelis have been killed in the West Bank, including two members of Israel's security forces.

Human rights groups say incidents of settler attacks, and alleged involvement of the security forces, are rarely fully investigated, with impunity virtually the norm.

"There's no accountability," Ms Stahl, from Yesh Din, said.

The recent violence has sparked concerns from foreign governments, and the US, Israel's main ally, has imposed sanctions on several Israeli outposts and settlers involved in attacks on Palestinians.

On Tuesday, the UN human rights office called on Israeli security forces to end what it called their active participation in and support for attacks by settlers in the West Bank.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68830552
 
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