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War Objectives Poll 1750-1800

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Demo Game II: Polls' started by Provolution, Aug 30, 2007.

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War objectives 1735

Poll closed Sep 1, 2007.
  1. No cities

    28.6%
  2. Arpinium

    57.1%
  3. Dortmund

    57.1%
  4. Hamburg

    57.1%
  5. Antium

    71.4%
  6. Ravenna

    28.6%
  7. Rome

    14.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    War Objectives Poll 1750-1800

    This is a 2 day poll, and will handle war objectives for the upcoming Roman War.
    This is a multiple option poll, so please click the cities you want to have conquered. If you want to raze a particular city, please write that in the poll.

    Options are:

    No conquest
    Arpinium
    Dortmund
    Hamburg
    Antium
    Ravenna
    Rome (Desperate gamble before war weariness strikes
     
  2. HUSch

    HUSch Secret-monger

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    Antium is the key, in the moment we ve a unit there and can see the defense.
     
  3. fed1943

    fed1943 Emperor

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    Sorry, but I didn't understand the poll:
    Is it like a political cabinet,i.e.,the Romans cities to be conquered or razed?
    Or to choose, city by city, which to stay with us and which to be razed?
    Or, like a war council,i.e., the timing and axes of our campaign?
    Best regards,
     
  4. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    These are the cities to be taken next TC. Write raze if you want to.
     
  5. DaveShack

    DaveShack Inventor Retired Moderator

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    Asking for the cities to be taken in a given play session isn't really a good question. If this is generally, what cities to take in the next war, then OK.

    A better way to handle war in a demogame is to ask 2 questions to start a war (do we want war, when do we want to start in terms of conditions -- not dates) and a separate question to end it (what conditions for peace). The peace question can be asked after the first session's results are known. If we're cleaning up we might want to take them in one go, if the resistance is strong or WW is high, then maybe not.
     
  6. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    We need to take a 10 turn break to reorganize, and put units up for promotions to reap the last drops of XP we will ever get on this continent, this is why.
    War weariness is another aspect.
     
  7. xr006

    xr006 Chieftain

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    I abstain and leave the decision to Prov.
     
  8. ravensfire

    ravensfire Member of the Opposition

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    No cities - bad poll.

    See DS's post for reasons.

    -- Ravensfire
     
  9. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    Well, fire judicial parting shots all you want Ravensfire, I would also like you to participate in strategy and game discussions more, not just popping up to complain from time to time.
     
  10. ravensfire

    ravensfire Member of the Opposition

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    I'm just taking my lead from you, Provo!

    And note that it's not a judicial shot - it's a fairness shot. You posted a bad poll. You certainly aren't ignorant of what is and isn't a good poll, you just don't care when it's a poll that you post. When it someone else's, you complain verbosely.

    Deal with it.

    -- Ravensfire
     
  11. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    I know this is not the best poll, but it does the job. All conceivable cities we can take next turnchat are listed, and people can select and deselect all they want.

    Unlike the engineering poll I contested, where 70 % voted for engineering in the new one, this poll does not seek to impose a specific set of cities (ok, I did not add Rome here, but that city is simply not reachable next TC), and people are free to choose.

    As long as that freedom to choose is there, that is what matters.
     
  12. ravensfire

    ravensfire Member of the Opposition

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    You want to do it right? See the process DS outlined. It provides clear decisions points for citizens without excessive restrictions.

    -- Ravensfire
     
  13. xr006

    xr006 Chieftain

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    This is the kind of stuff I cannot take. The only possible solution to the Roman problem is total annihilation. We need to secure this continent as quickly as possible and Prov is the man to do it. I like that he is thinking about colonization.
     
  14. DaveShack

    DaveShack Inventor Retired Moderator

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    I think you misunderstand the point of the discussion on the technique used to poll. The point is not to argue against wiping out the Romans -- it's pretty clear we're going to do that. We're trying to improve the quality of future polls.
     
  15. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    Moderator, please close this poll, it has served its initial purpose.
     
  16. Nobody

    Nobody Gangster

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    Provolution isn't reasonable for declarations of war. Polls such as "when should we declare war, when should we declare peace" belong to a foreign affairs minister and since we don't have one they are the chieftains. Provolution's job is to work out how we fight the war when the decision to fight is made. This poll is just asking What city's we we want to take if we go to war.

    Provolution could just post orders for what city's to attack, instead he made a poll asking what the people think, thanks provolution.

    Polls like the ones old ds described in this post are the Chieftain to post. Polls such as the one we are in now, there the military dudes.
     
  17. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    We polled a war already, read farther down.
     
  18. Cyc

    Cyc Looking for the door...

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    Man, what an insane polling thread. This one should be placed in the Hall of Fame. :lol:

    It covers so many useless arguements and errors over the DG centuries, it's actually funny. I would have to side with Nobody here. Hehehe. It's just too funny.

    Not that I disagree with Provo, I'm glad to see he's working to get things done, as usual. Good for you, Provolution. It's the replies, they're so typical, so .... I'm sorry. Didn't mean to interupt.
     
  19. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    Heheheh, yeah, I am used to this crazyness, the oh so typical comments.
     

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