war plans

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i am about to go to war with the iroquois for the land alone and i wish to know what the best method to do this is. so far i am the only one with gunpowder and i have about 50 war units...... help me out.

 

[i like pies]

can any of you guys tell me wut i should do at this point?

 

[vmxa]

Well it is a little vague. 50 units, what type? Any armies, what are they made of? How close is your target to your borders? What do you expect to find when you get there, Pikes, Spears?

How about attackers on their side, MDI, swords, knights? Do you plan on having any bombardment support? Will you capture towns or razes them?

A save would make it easier to put up some responses. What version and what settings and size, etc?

 

[i like pies]

ok, nice to c yah again vmxa.....
well im on an archipalagio,(vanilla btw) 4 mil years old.....all they have is knights i have about 30 muskets and theyre border is right next to mine ....hope that helps....oh yeah and how do i post a save?

 

[Aabraxan]

To post a save: When you reply to the thread, look below the box in which you type for a button that says "Manage Attachments." Click on that & you'll get a pop-up box for uploading the save.

OK. If they have knights, then they have pikes. Do you also have knights? Or did you skip Chivalry? What sort of terrain does your enemy have? Mountains, plains, jungles? What about artillery support on your side? What's the difficulty level?

 

[vmxa]

Well armies are not as strong in vanilla as they are in C3C, but they still are useful. Muskets cannot attack, for all practical purposes. To attack knights and pikes, you will need to ping them to at least yellow and use knights. C3 does not have MDI as I recall.

If you do not have knights and are stuck with muskets to attack, then pair them with lots of cats or whatever you have. I like to use stacks that cannot be attacked and cannot fail to win.

In C3C that means armies, but without them you need bombardment and lots of it. If the price of Longbows is less than muskets and I am sure it is, use Longbows to attack, if no knights.

Hopefully you can get a leader to make an army. I know in C3 it is hard to make armies as leaders can rush wonders, but a few armies are worth more than a wonder in a war.

As you probably know, the AI will not attack a knight army that is healthy, even with cavs. This means you can move stacks covered by armies and never risk attack. Just do not get next to a town with cats, until you attack.

 

[i like pies]

well can someone explain in a bit more detail plz how to post a save? thnx!=)

 

[Spoonwood]

Go down to the box where you'll reply to this message. Click on "go advanced". Scroll down the screen to "manage attachments" and click on that. Then click on one of the "browse" buttons in the pop up screen. Find the directory where you have your saved games. Mine lies in c:/program files/firaxis games/civilization III complete/conquests/saves (unless I start playing and posting PTW games or something). The "/" indicate sub-folders that I've selected. Does that help?

 

[vmxa]

Note that the "quick reply" does not have that, so use the "post reply" button.

 

[i like pies]

ok well ive been playing for a bit and now i need to know what the best war time govt iz not going past democ...also i need to know what the best thing against pikes is they keep killing my cavalry....

 

[vmxa]

Well war times gov is usually going to be Monarchy. This you can get with only one switch. If you are Religious, then you can afford to switch again, if you want.

Other governments, not all, are optional techs are usually not researched.

I see no reason why cavs cannot handle pikes. They will not win all battles. simulations show that in 10 battles with the pike fortified and no other bonus it is 70% for the cav. Not a bad percentage. Walls, cities and terrain will improve the pike as soem other things will slightly improve the cav, due to promotions mainly.

Cavs can kill muskets and do kill rifles, but not every effective on rifles.

 

[i like pies]

ok thnx, i appreciate it