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War themes

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by Zordo8212, Feb 18, 2018.

  1. Zordo8212

    Zordo8212 Chieftain

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    I think that a war variation on all the civ themes would help alot with immersion.

    But i gues this is very intensive to create since you need to pretty much make a complete now score of music.

    What do you guys think about this.
     
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  2. Pythakoreas

    Pythakoreas Chef Tain

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    Given how intensive it should be to compose war songs for every civ I don't think it's going to happen.

    I did like Civ5's Peace and War songs for every civ, and the vast pool of songs that plays depending on your civ's continent (e.g. Europe, Asia, Middle East/Africa) When War music played it gave you a sense of danger and urgency.

    In Civ6 they composed four versions of the same song. I know I have a very unpopular opinion but I think Music is the weakest department of Civ6 right now. It's the only game in my Steam library where I mute the Music to listen to something else, mostly podcasts.
     
  3. Morningcalm

    Morningcalm Keeper of Records

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    I do hope they bring war themes back for Civ VII--they made the game feel more dynamic and atmospheric. Hearing cheerful uplifting music when the AI declares war on me always feels inappropriate and lacks drama, like the stilted withering leader backgrounds with their ridiculous gloominess (too much black, too much shading in the colors, with few exceptions).
     
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  4. nzcamel

    nzcamel Nahtanoj the Magnificent

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    It'd be nice to have both, but if I have to choose I'll take VI's progression from simple to more complex, over war and peace themes.
     
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  5. halfhalfharp

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    I like war themes more, although a set of progressive themes is fascinating too. You just cant feel the tension of DOW with those happy background music

    And in terms of melodies, many ost chords in VI are in major (e.g. China, Khmer), while only a few pieces are in minor (Arab, Scythia). That makes most of them sound super cheerful.
     
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    The quality of the music in Civ VI is undeniable but I prefer the peace/war themes from Civ V. While based on the same piece of music, they were sufficiently different to avoid sounding quite as repetitive as the music in Civ VI can be.

    After a long Scotland game I'm not sure I want to hear Scotland the Brave again for a while...!
     
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  8. halfhalfharp

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    Yeah the brain washing effect is very intensive. The main melody will soon fill up every corner of your auditory memory.
     
  9. PhilBowles

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    The more music the better to my mind... I'd like war themes on top of the existing ambient and era-based civ themes, though I dread to think how the Cree would react if asked to play a war theme...
     
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  10. Catbus

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    Nothing will ever compare with Civ V's Brazilian War Samba. Nothing.
     
  11. orasis

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    6 is pretty weak in the audio/music department compared to 4 and 5. Very generic and bland.
     
  12. Uberfrog

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    I sometimes feel like other people are listening to a different soundtrack.

    Civ V and Civ VI both have great tracks, but I think on the whole Civ VI edges it out for me. I prefer era-changing tracks to war and peace themes, although both would be great :D.

    The licensed classical music in Civ IV was obviously great but the Civ themes were generally little more than jingles. Some good and catchy ones, to be sure, but there's no comparison with the orchestrated themes from V and VI.
     
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    This would make a good DLC

    Agreed, I like VI's combination of era changes along with themes specific to each civ. Playing as China in Civ IV and listening to Miserere Mei Deus was just weird (beautiful as that song is) and hearing the exact same music for the entire game in Civ V got boring after a while.
     
  14. orasis

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    Both civ 4 and 5 had the music change on a new era. I'm certain about 4...
     
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    IV changed music based on era, but it was the same soundtrack no matter what Civ you played.

    V had specific tracks for each civ, plus a general regional/cultural-based soundtrack (European, Asian, Native American, African/Middle Eastern, and for some reason Polynesia got its own) but no there were no era changes, it was the same music throughout the game.
     
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    I think Civ II nailed the perfect soundtrack personally...

    Nothing like toggling cheats right before you log off and raining nuclear Hellfire on an unsuspecting classical world while Ode to Joy plays in the background
     
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    Well, I definitely don't want to say that Civ VI music is bad. No, not really, but it definitely can't compare to Civ V in war atmosphere. Civ VI has some darker themes, like Scythia, Japan or Germany, but this is all. With Civ V, I could easily imagine war from almost every war theme. Persia? Sorrow. Denmark? Incoming Danish fleet/Danish fleet leaving a burning cities. France? Marching Napoleon's army. Venice? Ships with soldiers leaving Venice and heading towards a great battle. Siam? Well... It's an exception (although I can imagine some war elephants marching through a jungle) :p
    And about this, I have one story from Civ V. I played as Venice on islands. I defeated Suleiman after he attacked me and took one very well placed canal city from him, then I bought one city state, and I said to myself that I have enough cities, and I won't need to enter any war for the rest of the game. Haile Selassie was my great ally. He was also a warmonger hated by many leaders. India was a small peaceful country with three cities on the south of Ethiopia. Haile Selassie attacked Gandhi, and asked me to join him in his conquest. I agreed to improve relations with him, and wrecked the Indian navy fast. However, Field of Poppies started playing, and I suddenly didn't have the good feeling from being strong and able to easily sink Indian ships with my Venetian navy. No, I've actually felt bad for Gandhi. For attacking a small, innocent and helpless country in order to improve my relations with Ethiopia. And because the song didn't finish without the AI wanting to deal with me, it was playing over and over, only to make me feel bad as I watched how the monstrous Ethiopian army lowers the health of Delhi and the other two Indian cities.
    If the same happened in Civ VI, I'd probably imagine that people are celebrating it in carnival (Brazil).

    Genghis Khan, Elizabeth I, Harun al-Rashid, Gajah Mada, Casimir III the Great, Willem van Oranje, Isabella, Gustavus Adolphus, Theodora... :mischief:
     
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  18. nzcamel

    nzcamel Nahtanoj the Magnificent

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    That's certainly a nice touch. Maybe along with the era progressive (civ tailored!) themes, they could afford to add at least a single war theme.
     
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    It would be interesting to have both war and peace themes to evolve over times.

    Imagine eight main themes per civ!
     
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    Oh it'd be wonderful :high5: But I'd rather they devoted more resources in other places first...
     

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