[BTS] Warhammer FB Conversion Beta - Download/Debug Thread

Ploeperpengel · Oct 13, 2007

Please use this thread only for reporting bugs and installationissues. First see if your problem has been addressed in one of the patches in the second post before you post here, don't forget to mention which version you use, savedgames help a lot. This will help me not to miss important issues here, thx.

Warhammer Fantasy Battles Version 0.13:

https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/warhammer-0-13-bts-beta.2422/

Latest Patch E (see post 2 for changelog):

https://www.civfanatics.net/warhammer/files/Warhammer13e.exe

How to install:

doubleclick the exe and enter the path to your bts/mods directory(or browse to it)

MAKE SURE YOU GET THE LATEST PATCH FROM THE LINK ABOVE!!!!

Minimum Specs:

-Requires Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword patch 3.17

-There's not much support for nonshadergrafics and no support for frozen animations. If you see many floating heads it's time to upgrade your system!

-The mod only supports english language

Buildnotes:

This version is still a betabeta. A lot of units, buildings, civics well almost anything will likely change a lot until I'm going to make a real release. This version is uploaded for the purpose of debugging and to give poeple that want to participate in it's developement the chance to help.
Please report any issues you find naming the version of the patch you are using. Before playing make the following changes in your civilization.ini:

Code:

Code:

; Set to 1 for no python exception popups
HidePythonExceptions = 1

To:

Code:

Code:

; Set to 1 for no python exception popups
HidePythonExceptions = 0

Moderator Action: Broken image & download links fixed - Blake00

Ploeperpengel · Oct 13, 2007

CHANGELOG

Patch 13f (unreleased)

Spoiler :

Patch 13e (breaks saves)

Spoiler :

Patch 13d (breaks saves)

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Patch 13c (breaks saves)

Spoiler :

Patch 13b (didn't test saves)

Spoiler :

Patch 13a (old saves can have weird results, but are loadable)

Spoiler :

Version 0.13 - conversion to BTS 3.17(FFH 32h codebase)(breaks saves)

Spoiler :

Patch D(breaks saves):

Spoiler :

Patch C(shouldn't break saves):

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Patch B(may break saves):

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Patch A(breaks saves):

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Version 0.12:

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Psychic_Llamas · Oct 14, 2007

This post is now where i will be updating the mod.

Bug List: Version 0.14 (Unreleased)

1. Alignment diplomatic modifiers don't work correctly. (eg Lawful nations don't get a bonus with each other).
2. Subterranean trait gives +2 summons duration.
3. BUG: dwarven gyrocopters and deathrollers while able to be built with xp and can earn xp, have no promotions available to take. Similar for Steamtanks and other non-living units. Intended?
4. Bug:Comet of Cassandra spell (Lore of Heavens III) says it is a permanent summon but only lasts 1 turn, and has only 1 strength so is largely useless.
5. Bug: AI tends to favor building forts in forests rather than building cottages, so tends to fall behind in economy. AI builds way too many forts, not enough cottages. I think that forts end up costing this mod more than they add. Taking away the commerce bonuses might make the AI less willing to build them.
6. Some reports of Tilea still getting crazy great people (linked to insanity trait, maybe already fixed?).
7. Empire can build unlimited Halbardiers. Should be limited to 10, like Pikemen. Halbardiers show up twice (two identical versions).
8. Warhammer world map; many people cannot run. Goblins and Ork start positions messed up. Evil civ areas are too weak (terrain to poor to sustain a threatening civ). Too many troll lairs in Kislev.
9. Building defense from walls, castles etc. doesn't seem to work properly (or to stack with cultural defense).
10. Fear effects on Dragons and Cold Ones cavalry too strong; nearly impossible to kill these units. Remove and create some weaker promotion.
11. Lighthouse text says it adds +1 trade route to all coastal cities.
12. Trails vs roads split isn't working well; some AIs don't prioritize roads techs, so link up no resources so are incredibly weak. Increase AI value on roads techs for appropriate factions?
13. Kurgans seem unable to build Maurauder Horde, despite having Iron working, Tyranny, Corruption of chaos. Also have iron resource and Corruption state religion.
14. Exalted chaos sorceror has a python bug (probably caused by one of the spells in chaos 3).
15. Chaos Dwarves need new leader art, diplo text, custom music.
16. Skaven need diplo text and custom music.
17. Greenskins need custom music
18. wood elves dont start with Lore of Athel Loren , they start with High Magic
19. Watchtower spamming in AI civs needs to be fixed

Ploeperpengel · Oct 14, 2007

No. That's why this is a thread for debugging

Download available now.

Psychic_Llamas · Oct 14, 2007

Mini-Mods:

SPELL MOD

Kael · Oct 14, 2007

Looking very good, Im very excited to see this come out!

A few problems:

1. Line 665 of CvSpellInterface.py is:
if caster.getSpecialUnitType (gc.getInfoTypeForString('SPECIALUNIT_SPELL')) == True:

It should be:

if caster.getSpecialUnitType() == gc.getInfoTypeForString('SPECIALUNIT_SPELL'):

2. Militia Archer Regiment for the Anaconda is incorrectly linked (red blobs).

3. Lairs not spawning is my problem, I'll fix it in the next patch.

4. Not being able to destroy the lairs doesnt seem to be an ffh2 problem. To see a lair as a goody hut and destroy it you need the following: the lair needs to be configured to spawn units, the lair cant be set permanent and the player has to be at war with the barbs.

5. No idea on the mage upgrade CtD, I'll have to think about that.

Ploeperpengel · Oct 14, 2007

Thank you Kael. Will fix this.

Yeah the mage upgrade is a puzzle. Only few things are different:
Unitcombat_adept -> unitcombat_sorcery
No builds
Same prereqtech with previous apprentice - I wanted to only experience make the difference and introduce some more promotions later to make this interesting - maybe this is it? The following upgradetype archmage is also on the same prereqtech - I think I will give them different techs and see if it still crashes.

@PL
Download works fine for me. If you have trouble downloading from gameflood contact their support. They don't take long for answers.

Kael · Oct 14, 2007

The mage upgrade issue is happening because weapon upgrades have been disabled. Basically its checking to see if the unit can have weapon upgrades (the caster cant) so it tries to remove it, which causes the crash because its trying to remove a promotion that doesnt exist.

Im looking on how to fix it in the sdk so it plays better if weapon upgrades aren't enabled.

Ploeperpengel · Oct 14, 2007

Kael said:
The mage upgrade issue is happening because weapon upgrades have been disabled. Basically its checking to see if the unit can have weapon upgrades (the caster cant) so it tries to remove it, which causes the crash because its trying to remove a promotion that doesnt exist.

Im looking on how to fix it in the sdk so it plays better if weapon upgrades aren't enabled.

Ah I see. Thank you very much! I was getting frustrated about that one.

Kael · Oct 14, 2007

Okay, I have a fix, it will be inlcuded in the next patch.

Ploeperpengel · Oct 14, 2007

Awesome! Thx Kael.

Will try to update tommorow so playtesting can get started that means if my cold doesn't hold me down. I feel like a slimy blob atm :sad:

Psychic_Llamas · Oct 14, 2007

First game impressions:

The Civilizations are great, i love some of the new leader art.

the intro movie is excelent, where did you find it again? i love that fact that it looks like Morathi and Aenaron are fighting

great choice of city art, though i noticed that all civs bar me and kislev were 'evil' on a huge map ???

My Woodelf palace is in! yay

woodelves start with an adept? is this meant to happen?

a couple of errors asking forthe soundtrack poped up, no biggie. (see pic) i dl'd the soundtrack again ind its working now, so this one is probably redundant

only lasted a couple of turns becasue i had to do something for my parents, will try a proper game this arvo.

i just want to say, Ploe, your hard effores are really paying off, the game is looking excelent even if there are a few errors and CTD's.

also, Kael, thank you so much for helping out, it making all the difference

:thumbsup:

Psychic_Llamas · Oct 15, 2007

Ok, my proper game was really interesting, as woodelves (surprised?

) on huge, hemispheres, prince.

started near olives, they dont have any imrovement at the moment, will they use the palntation?

Mining dosn't show brightstone

should limit the ammount of religeons foundable, or change the techs that each religion building requires. (pic 3) currently it would be too easy to found every religion yourself.

can hear the spells cast by other civs spell casters

white flag for woodelves (linked to my team colour one? )

also cant raze barrow or ancient ruins, i think you already know about that one?

city art building scales are all over the show (i had one building, that was bigger than my palace, cant remember which one)

i got a random CTD when moving my apprentice (had just cast haste?)

---below are attachments of pics:

Pic 1: three errors, self explanetory, the industrial error one appeared quite often but infrequently. EDIT: just noticed ive got the industrial error twice. lol

Pic 2: python error that occured irregularly, every turn for a few turns, then a big gap of none, then every second turn.

pic 3; city list with each religion founding building

EDIT: I avoided upgrading my apprentices because i know you know it causes a CTD, good news on the fix

Masada · Oct 15, 2007

Played a quick game as Empire on a Archepalgeo map... went fairly well till age 2 then my civ crashed for unrelated mod reasons... otherwise it was smooth and seemed to work well didnt have time to check through many units but i tried to power through building buildings to see if i could find any CTD's didnt find any... so

Will properly document my game tommorow

Ploeperpengel · Oct 15, 2007

Uploaded.

Patch a(won't break saves):
-converted to FFH 0.25J
(fixes various bugs: i.e. lairs, wizardupgrade)
-fixed barrows not working as lair
-fixed artlink for Amazon Militia Archer
-fixed escapespell requirement
-Plantation now gives access to Olives and Tea
-some scale adjustments for improvements
-can mine Brightstone
-Loren secondary color limegreen

@PL
In general very few things are as intended. this is just a rough sketch of the mod. Though I'm most concerned about general functionality. Keep freely posting about anything that doesn't seem right.
When bugs are mostly resolved I'm going into Religions. Btw does the AI build Shrines and found a Religion? - (not Ancestors but any other)

SidArthur · Oct 15, 2007

Spiffy. Downloading now.

varkk · Oct 15, 2007

I seem to have found a bug with the ships and the crew options. Whenever I have an active ship in a city I get the following dialogue appear. Also I am only able to select the 'buccanneer crew' from the usual crew options. (Buccaneer, skeleton, longshoreman)

Other than that everything seems to be running as expected. Great work so far, keep it up.

Psychic_Llamas · Oct 15, 2007

Ok, again i started as woodelves (hemispheres, huge, prince)

not many errors this time (it was a shorter game due to the need for assignments to be written)

most notably, barbarians are increadibly tough. skelletons are 6 strength when i only have 3 strength archers! i almost got eliminated before i hit the second era (only reason i didnt was because i turned my 2 remainging cities to churning out archers, i ended up with only 2 surviving (of about 8 or 9!) and i lost 2 cities and their defenders on top of that. also i never got a warning saying there was a huge barbarian uprising near me. (see first pic) i suggest reducing the toughness, or at least spawn rate or the skellies.

several leadersa are missing diplo text (if you like i can write some up

) neferata and vlad von carstein among them. (pic 2)

every game ive started has been near bone plains or chaos waste type land. is that inteded? i think it should spread gradually as the game progresses (either from chaos civ or a unique feature) but not starting near it (pic 3)

there is also an event that makes no sense to me, i think it might not be english (or words i dont know

)
"our ambassadors to the Highelven empire have committed a 'Faux Pas' (?)" with the option "this 'gaffe' (?) has adversly affected our relations"

varkk · Oct 16, 2007

Psychic_Llamas said:
there is also an event that makes no sense to me, i think it might not be english (or words i dont know)
"our ambassadors to the Highelven empire have committed a 'Faux Pas' (?)" with the option "this 'gaffe' (?) has adversly affected our relations"

This also appears in plain 'Beyond the Sword' games and the language is fine.
For reference on the meanings:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faux_pas
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error#Gaffe

Also to add to my earlier post about the python error popup with ships, it also happens with some spell casting units, specifically air elementals. Same text, I guess there is a problem or something not fully implemented in the spell system as I think the ship crew upgrades use the spell system.

Psychic_Llamas · Oct 16, 2007

looks like i just showed my true ignorence

had a couple of quick games as highelves, nothing major that i havent already reported. the ancient ruins thing (the big rock head) what does that do? is it meant to spawn barbs? if so my unts cant destroy them (but barrows do get destroyed)
otherwise its mainly just balancing things and buttons and general civ design (units, buildings, civ triats etc)

ive found a bunch of good pics for wizard buttons so im half way with that, and also some button for the colleges. flags are almost done so they will also be up soon. once thats all done i can start on more buttons or diplomacy text. ive also got some ideas brewing and will post them when i think they're ready

also, it looks like Kael and the team have got the miscast mechanic up alreay :wow:

no mucking around here

thanks Kael, it'll be interesting to see how this works out.

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