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Because it does not make any sense.
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What is not logical about the Universe being self-existent? What is not logical about God having a non-existent creator?
It has to start somewere. You can't keep going around in circles.
If the Universe is self-existent, it would be God.
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exactly... the universe is self existant and thats were it started
So it all just came about by chance?
I guess if I leave my computer by itself, it should turn itself on and do my homework eventually.
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but that was your argument for how god came here, by saying he didn't have a creator he just popped into existence
the magic you ascribe to the homework ... just wait a few years, your phone will do it
God never "popped into existence." He always existed.
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but i feel your mistaken... he popped into existence quite recently, a million years or so ago and only became vocal in the last 6000 years or so
but i feel your mistaken... he popped into existence quite recently, a million years or so ago and only became vocal in the last 6000 years or so
Ok then, you can believe what you want.
It doesn't make any sense to say that God existed in a time period before time came into existence. You could say that He exists outside of time, though.
God is out side of time. We can never fully understand God but we can know he exists.
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Why?
Why does there have to be some god that started it? What's wrong with not knowing exactly what started it? What happened to being critical and not claiming something has to be, when it hasn't been proven and there is no evidence for it whatsoever?
Come on, own up and admit, just like I have, that you don't know. It doesn't prohibit believing in God. And we'd have common ground in our collective ignorance.
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We cannot know he exists anymore than we can know that Shiva exists, or Zeus, or Wiraqocha. You're just using circular logic.
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Maybe it is a God! What do you mean by self-existent anyway?
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... or Scientology
Can christians disprove that we have thetans in us? Of course you can't, but that's certainly no basis for saying that it's proof that they do exist. Which is precisely the same logic that Christianity or whatever other religion is trying to us to "prove" that their beliefs are true.
What happend is becides the point.Why?
Why does there have to be some god that started it? What's wrong with not knowing exactly what started it? What happened to being critical and not claiming something has to be, when it hasn't been proven and there is no evidence for it whatsoever?
Come on, own up and admit, just like I have, that you don't know. It doesn't prohibit believing in God. And we'd have common ground in our collective ignorance.
The point is everything (execpt God) had to have a beginning sometime.
I mean He exists by himself, He does not owe his existence to anyone.
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