What Civ (Final Decision Pt II)
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Hygro
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Thank you Chieftess for backing me up. Japanophiles, surrender your stubborness so just in case we can pick a better back up (I advocate either celts or sumeria--probably celts)
Donovan Zoi
The Return
I have no problem with the Celts, Hygro, but someone else already has the Celts as their first choice. And I wouldn't call it stubbornness either. 
In any event, we will look silly if we change our plans at the UN now.
Let's see if we get the Mayans first. I think that we will.
In any event, we will look silly if we change our plans at the UN now.Let's see if we get the Mayans first. I think that we will.
Hygro
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I think being prideful and not changing the vote--if we actually agreed on a different line up (also we could be other good civs like Aztecs instead of Celts, or Inca too. Both are good civs)--is worse as we will have a weaker civ and lose the game more easily. I mean, have you seen who we are up against? FriedricPtalsin or whatever his name is, CDZ is playing... this does NOT look like an easy game. We need all the early advantages we can get. However, with us having the Mayans most likely, things look promising.
Donovan Zoi
The Return
I am well aware of who we are up against, and the two you mentioned scare me the most. I am also concerned about the prospect of GCA with Berzerks! Not to mention the teams we are already well aware of, like Poly, CGN and the German Webring.
Yes, it will be tough, but proper implementation of Japan's military trait would still keep us in the game. But I still don't think it is going to come to that. The way the team divisions have been presented in the UN, I really think we are going to get the Mayans.
Yes, it will be tough, but proper implementation of Japan's military trait would still keep us in the game. But I still don't think it is going to come to that. The way the team divisions have been presented in the UN, I really think we are going to get the Mayans.
Hygro
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Well, hopefully if we start next to GCA again, we can as the Mayans stop them before they get those beserks, and make slaves while we do!
The object of most MP games is early and agressive attack. I even said at the start of the Civ3 MSDG just that.
We'll need:
1. a few good production cities (about 5) so that we have enough production to produce units (say it's the Javelineer) every 2-5 turns.
2. Build Javs like no tomorrow and overwhelm the opponent. Unlike the computer, the human opponent will *NOT* keep just 1-2 units in a city. They'll keep 10-20 if they see an attack coming.
3. Catapults. The MP crowd loves these things.
4. Agricultural - There's a reason "aggie"-civs are chosen more. Fast growth. Growth = Land Grab = Power. 1 cattle + 1 river = instant settler factory (after irragating the cattle). Japan is NOT a popular MP civ, and I know from experience during testing. (half the testers were ladder players). Popular ones included:
Sumeria
Celts
Maya
Aztecs (not as much, but still popular because they're agricultural)
Take a look at the C3C strategy guides in the War Academy section (the 8 meg one). The 2nd file is a quick "checklist" made by Friedrich on which civs are the best for C3C MP.
Take a look at the Civ3 MSDG, and tell me how many civs made it to the middle ages. 1/2. Gamecatcher didn't even get to their UU before being CRIPPLED (not the best thing in a MP game). Choose Japan, and we take 2 big risks.
1. We have iron.
2. We make it to the middle ages. (We were lucky to have CDG and Apolyton on our sides).
BTW, Persia and Japan don't even rank up high on the MP list anymore. Industrial has taken a hit. Religous civs now have a 2 turn maximum for government change. MGLs no longer rush wonders (SGLs do).
We'll need:
1. a few good production cities (about 5) so that we have enough production to produce units (say it's the Javelineer) every 2-5 turns.
2. Build Javs like no tomorrow and overwhelm the opponent. Unlike the computer, the human opponent will *NOT* keep just 1-2 units in a city. They'll keep 10-20 if they see an attack coming.
3. Catapults. The MP crowd loves these things.
4. Agricultural - There's a reason "aggie"-civs are chosen more. Fast growth. Growth = Land Grab = Power. 1 cattle + 1 river = instant settler factory (after irragating the cattle). Japan is NOT a popular MP civ, and I know from experience during testing. (half the testers were ladder players). Popular ones included:
Sumeria
Celts
Maya
Aztecs (not as much, but still popular because they're agricultural)
Take a look at the C3C strategy guides in the War Academy section (the 8 meg one). The 2nd file is a quick "checklist" made by Friedrich on which civs are the best for C3C MP.
Take a look at the Civ3 MSDG, and tell me how many civs made it to the middle ages. 1/2. Gamecatcher didn't even get to their UU before being CRIPPLED (not the best thing in a MP game). Choose Japan, and we take 2 big risks.
1. We have iron.
2. We make it to the middle ages. (We were lucky to have CDG and Apolyton on our sides).
BTW, Persia and Japan don't even rank up high on the MP list anymore. Industrial has taken a hit. Religous civs now have a 2 turn maximum for government change. MGLs no longer rush wonders (SGLs do).
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Gainy
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Who in the hell voted for the Japanese??? They are absoloutly the worst. If i'd seen this thread earlier maybe I could have influenced it...I have no idea If me voting now will change anything, but i'm going for the Persians. The only reason is, is because they are infinately better than the Japs, and thus it would be a tie.
Can we still change our List at Cdgroup? You could just edit it in Wizard
No swearing, even if it's minor.
Hygro
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and who knows, maybe we'll start with ivory as our "resource"
I was hoping Civ3 would be a bit more interesting.Originally posted by Chieftess
Middle Ages and higher civs are the LAST civs you want in MP.
Hygro
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My only fear is that if we get the SoZ everyone will team against us.
Matrix, it would be nice if multiplayer wasn't like this, but it is
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Ok,when is the poll going to time out?
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
We can have DZ time it out for you
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