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What determines your current government?

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by VladTepes, Mar 3, 2013.

  1. VladTepes

    VladTepes Clown Prince of Wallachia

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    I most recently picked socialism as a policy and am now "Chairman William of the Dutch." Does this mean I'm Communist? What exactly determines your "title?"
     
  2. Heerlo

    Heerlo Jedi Master Hearlo

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    I generally take it that order is communism, autocracy is fascism, etc.

    And I think "chairman" is the title for order. Not entirely sure how titles work, but they have something to do with certain policy branches.
     
  3. Smokeybear

    Smokeybear Emperor

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    Yep, when you choose Order, and another civ takes that same SP tree, their leader will drop in on you and say "perhaps we can help each other out by sharing our next five-year plans!", or something close to that. Order = socialism/communism, Autocracy = fascist dictatorship, Freedom = democracy.
     
  4. fuzzatron717

    fuzzatron717 Holy Warrior

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    Opening any policy tree gives you a title so the last one you opened is your title. Example: Tradition = Lord William of Netherlands, Liberty = Consul William of the Netherlands, etc.
     
  5. Jerman

    Jerman Would you like a Trade Agreement?

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    Here let me help.

    Tradition - Lord/Lady

    Liberty - Consul

    Honor - The Great

    Piety - The Enlightened I think

    Patronage - IDK

    Commerce - IDK

    Rationalism - The Wise

    Freedom - President

    Order - Chairman

    Autocracy - The Terrible
     
  6. Bad Wolf

    Bad Wolf King

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    I've never been too clear on this. I played a game recently where I was "Consul" for most of the game (filled out Liberty early). I also completed Rationalism and Commerce, and was called Doge and The Wise for a little while, but then transferred back to Consul. I also opened Order but was never called Chairman.

    Yeah, I have no idea what determines it, but it does seem to me that whatever tree you fill first is what you'll "default" to, whatever that means.
     
  7. jddods

    jddods Prince

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    I think once you finish a tree your that title till you finish anothet.
    I've just gone back to lord from chairman.
    Buy they way Doge is the commerce title
    John
     
  8. sufficiency

    sufficiency King

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    Piety is "the Pious" (100% sure)
    Patronage is "Enlightened" (99% sure)

    I am not sure about Commerce.
     
  9. Dreadnought

    Dreadnought Deity

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    Commerce is "Doge", the title of medieval Italian rulers of commercial city states.
     
  10. Vamphaery

    Vamphaery Chieftain

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    Little things like this are what should be made much more transparent and intuitive in the game in my opinion. I was just posting in another topic that the game should calculate a "governance state" based upon which parts of each policy tree you've adopted, and determine other countries' attitudes toward your own based on that state.

    Turns our the game (sort of) does this, but damned if I would ever have noticed any rhyme or reason to it without being told lol. They really just need to do a better job of making things feel intuitive and organic, and making the player feel powerful with respect to shaping the nature - not just the size and strength - of their empire, imo.
     
  11. VladTepes

    VladTepes Clown Prince of Wallachia

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    I currently have all of the Tradition and Liberty trees, Planned Econ and Socialism from Order and Humanism from Rationalism. Based upon that I assessed the following political landscape for my people at present:

    -A citizen elite meritocracy that elects representatives
    - Only landowners can vote
    -There is an elected parliament with a Chairman
    -The government enacts Socialist policies
    -The scientists have a Humanist philosophy

    Maybe we should start a thread where people dissect their own government / political structure halfway or 3/4 through their game! :D
     
  12. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Chieftain

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    Only landowners may vote and their elected government enacts Socialist policies? That sounds right.
     
  13. Biologist

    Biologist Researcher

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    Titles are, as stated above, connected to specific policy trees. What I can't figure out is what triggers titles to change, some games I seem to change titles every 2-3 turns. As for apparently conflicting government policies, I can't figure out what kind of system my Liberty/Honor/Autocracy civ uses. Tradition/Freedom is less of a stretch, since it's possible to have a figurehead monarchy within a relatively democratic society.
     
  14. Arachnofiend

    Arachnofiend Perturbed Pugilist

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    Liberty/Honor/Autocracy sounds like pre-WWI Germany to me. Basically a figurehead parliament made for the people in order to keep the nobles in check and secure the power of the Kaiser.
     
  15. jddods

    jddods Prince

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    I believe it will be quite difficult to work out some conflicting policies into a real world govt when all they are labels for game mechanics.
    John
     

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