I guess I'm mainly asking the over-30's but anyone can answer, What did you do before Civ 1 came out (1992?)? Were you a gameplayer of any kind? If so, what? And if not on computers, what did you do? I think it takes a certain way of thinking to become a long-term Civ player and there are probably interests we shared. Growing up in Canada (50-60's) I liked chess and board games, first Monopoly and later Risk, Diplomacy and Trivial Pursuits. I was also into model soldiers in a big way from about seven. By my thirties, I was heavily into painting soldiers, table-top wargaming and historical reenactment games esp. ACW and Napoleonic. All this went hand in hand with a passion for History (BA degree in Modern History). My first game, I think, on my friend's Amiga, was Populous then Sim City. Then I discovered Civ 1 and then Colonization. I was hooked! Since then, I've played every version up to BTS, though my fav. was probably Civ 2, esp. the Fantastic Worlds and Conflicts in Civilization expansions. I also, still occasionally play Sid Meier's Pirates and Age of Empires. My question, therefore, is how did we all get here, so that this game has become one of the major focuses of our lives. What fatal flaws do we share, that have brought us all to this point?