What do I do?

[Comrade-Deux]

I set up a game @ noble, with fractal, random civilization. Drew Qin Shi Huang. Scouted around, on a continent with Stalin to my north and suryaverman II to my south. I rushed out Stonehendge and Great Walls and procede to REX without having to worry about monuments or barbs. within about 3000 years, I had 8 cities spanning the center 80% of the map and each AI had 3. My science slider was at 30% with +2 gold a turn and 10 in the bank. Despite trying my best to get on good terms with Sury and Stalin one convinces the other to go to war with me. I quickly lose one city to either one of them before I can reorganize my spread out forces, but lose my primary Iron source for my norhtern production city. How do you recover from overexpanding and getting into a two-fronted war?

(Edit: Spelling Mistake)

 

[TheMeInTeam]

1. You didn't overexpand.
2. Read the thread "is there any logic to an AI dow?"
3. Prevent that war if at all possible, which probably means turning sury on stalin early by adopting his religion and using the OR civic.
4. If all else fails, you have more cities than both of them combined. Check if they're in war mode ahead of time and mass defenses. You should be able to out-produce them if your expansion had enough workers to balance your tile improvements.

 

[Comrade-Deux]

Thanks for your rapid response TMIT, btw I enjoyed your youtube videos planning to make any more? Anywhat, I had 10 workers and was making more, and I understand I probably did not do enough to avoid the war in the first place, especially so with your apt suggestions on how to do so. My question was, however, different: When this happens how do you limit the damage of a 2 front war, and can you when you are caught with your economic pants down?

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Once you're in that situation, you can still recover on most difficulties. Whip out units (or in cities with a good # of hill mines just build) for defense/counter attack and try to get peace after taking whatever cities you can. Econ crash is fine as long as you don't strike...and from the sounds of it you shouldn't.

Try to run some scientists somewhere to pop a great person or two soon and get them either settled or if you can trade bulbed techs, bulbing something juicy like philosophy (unlikely to be necessary on noble). That city can probably carry your research good enough for trading techs while the rest beat back the AI. Stay out of strike, get out of the war (if you don't beat them back enough to want it to continue), and use the land advantage to get a good beaker rate + trade with others to catch up after meeting them.

Edit: I'll be taking a good look at my laptop in a day or two after I get home from the trip I'm on, so I have something that can actually record again. I've improved since the LHC video series and should be able to get an immortal game up now.

 

[Comrade-Deux]

Thank you! That was the sort of advice I was looking for!

Oh, and looking foreward to whatever vids you make.