What do you think of Paxil? How can i stop taking this terrible drug?

[Desmond Hawkins]

You do not understand how the brain and it's complex chemical balances work.

None of the Scientologists in this thread seem to.

 

[Neomega]

YOu are fat

Lose wieght or take a pill

you have acne

get acne cream, or take a pill

you have no girlfriend

be nice, drop the mysogyny, or take a pill

you are selfish, and have no friends

become generous, or take a pill

you never stop preaching to people, and they don't like you

learn to listen, or take a pill

You aren't the success your parents want you to be

accept your life, and that you can stillbe a good person, without being rich, or take a pill

I could go on and on and on and on. Mental anguish is a sign you need to change somethng about your life. Depression and sadness is healthy. Pain is life.

Instead, people choose a flat effect. they choose to medicate, be it paxil or ecstacy, prozac or cocaine.

Anti-depressants are drugs, and drugs only help avoid reality.

And I have met so many people who never get off their anti-depressants.

I know someone very personally who was on lithium for 40 years... she was also over 50 lbs overweight her whole life... until she dropped the lithium, lost 40 lbs in 6 weeks.

50 lbs overweight, her whole life, the cure was worse than the disease.

 

[azzaman333]

YOu are fat

Lose wieght or take a pill

you have acne

get acne cream, or take a pill

you have no girlfriend

be nice, drop the mysogyny, or take a pill

you are selfish, and have no friends

become generous, or take a pill

you never stop preaching to people, and they don't like you

learn to listen, or take a pill

You aren't the success your parents want you to be

accept your life, and that you can stillbe a good person, without being rich, or take a pill

None are in any way similar to depression. Thankyou for playing, please do you research better next time or you'll just make an ass out of yourself again.

I could go on and on and on and on. Mental anguish is a sign you need to change somethng about your life. Depression and sadness is healthy. Pain is life.

Depression isn't the same as feeling sad. Sadness will 99/100 have a good reason. Depression is much less likely to have a real reason for why you are feeling like crap, or that you're worthless. No amount of positive think can ultimately effect depression.

Instead, people choose a flat effect. they choose to medicate, be it paxil or ecstacy, prozac or cocaine.

Anti-depressants are drugs, and drugs only help avoid reality.

And I have met so many people who never get off their anti-depressants.

Maybe they should see better psychiatrists, because when I was diagnosed with depression my psychiatrist recommened that I not medicate myself unless after a couple of months I had got significantly worse.

I know someone very personally who was on lithium for 40 years... she was also over 50 lbs overweight her whole life... until she dropped the lithium, lost 40 lbs in 6 weeks.

50 lbs overweight, her whole life, the cure was worse than the disease.

Not if she was suicidal without it.

 

[cubsfan6506]

Suicidal ideation and Suicide

Theres always the easy way out.

 

[Neomega]

None are in any way similar to depression. Thankyou for playing, please do you research better next time or you'll just make an ass out of yourself again.

You missed the point. People on anti-depressants many times never change the cause of their depression, because they refuse to believe the 300 lb gorilla is in the way of their happiness. They would rather believe it is a chemical imbalance.

Maybe they should see better psychiatrists, because when I was diagnosed with depression my psychiatrist recommened that I not medicate myself unless after a couple of months I had got significantly worse.

I'm surprsied you had a doctor that actually neglected to medicate you.

Depression isn't the same as feeling sad. Sadness will 99/100 have a good reason. Depression is much less likely to have a real reason for why you are feeling like crap, or that you're worthless. No amount of positive think can ultimately effect depression.

People try to tell me my pain is so much less severe than their's. That their lives are truly so much more terrible. That if only I understood how they felt. That I dont know what being depressed or suicidal feels like. WTH ever. We have all been there at one point in time or another. everyone experiences angst... and if they have not yet, they will. Everyone will even experience angst for extended periods of times and dark times in their life. Those are the best times to learn and change.

It's not "positive think", it's introspection. It's finding the cause of your unhappiness. It's being honest about who you are. It's quite the opposite of "positive think", it's self-discipline and self-analysis, its self-destruction, so you can rebuild a better, stronger, you.


Of course, I always get flamed on this subject, called a "scientologist", and whatnot.... because people need thier chemicals. Life is so much simpler, and responsibility so much easier to pass if you can blame it on a sickness.

Im not fat because I eat too much, and surf the net all day! It's a thyroid problem!

Well, I guess the situation is truly hopeless then.

Not if she was suicidal without it

Suicide is so rare, especially amongst women. Always has been. I am sorry, but prozac is in no way preventing millions of suicides a year. It's looking like it is even encouraging it.

 

[MrCynical]

I suggest switching to Homeopathy. I do not know how it works, but it works fine with me. I think the trick is that I simply don't poision myself with drugs.

It works purely by the placebo effect (and admittedly it is baically impossible to get an adverse reaction to homeopathy since there's nothing there). I'd suggest you fill a large bottle with plain tap water, label it "homeopathic medecine" and take it regularly. You're getting exactly the same thing and it's much cheaper.

 

[Syterion]

People hooked on cocaine will claim to be happier also... especially if it is free.

I'm not sure how this is a refutation? Cocaine is several orders of magnitude more addictive than anti depressants with several orders of magnitude worse side effects.

It's not "positive think", it's introspection. It's finding the cause of your unhappiness. It's being honest about who you are. It's quite the opposite of "positive think", it's self-discipline and self-analysis, its self-destruction, so you can rebuild a better, stronger, you.

I don't think you understood the point. Depression is sadness all the time, for no reason, that saps the BIOLOGICAL need to eat, procreate, and live. It is casued by chronically low levels of serotonin that are proven to cause unhappiness, lack of sex drive, lack of drive for hunger, and so forth. Prozac is a pill which blocks reuptake of serotonin so your body gets more, raising the level to normal amounts. Explain to me where I went wrong here.

 

[Bill3000]

Of course, I always get flamed on this subject, called a "scientologist", and whatnot.... because people need thier chemicals. Life is so much simpler, and responsibility so much easier to pass if you can blame it on a sickness.

People are calling you a scientologist because you feel the need to completely ignore science in order to get your point across - and whatever science you do find is bound to be pseudoscientific stuff that's easily debunked. Your agenda is clear and you cannot be convinced that you are factually wrong because emotion is in the way. I'd disagree with them - that's not the best name to call you. The best analogy would be calling you a creationist.

 

[Neomega]

...Depression is sadness all the time, for no reason....

there is a reason. There is always a reason. People oft choose to ignore these reasons.

People are calling you a scientologist because you feel the need to completely ignore science in order to get your point across - and whatever science you do find is bound to be pseudoscientific stuff that's easily debunked. Your agenda is clear and you cannot be convinced that you are factually wrong because emotion is in the way. I'd disagree with them - that's not the best name to call you. The best analogy would be calling you a creationist

You also realize, that the science is psychology, (which is only failry reliable in macro-trends, and could never be used to make predictions on individual levels), and psychiatry, (which is a very young field of science studying the chemistry of the brian, which is very much so still an enigma.)

Also realize this: science cannot solve nor accurately study everything.. especially when it comes to emotions.

You ever see science make someone fall in love? A pill to make someone love someone else?
Has science ever been able to make someone stop loving. To be eleated about what would have been a brutal divorce?

Why do you think it is sensible to believe a pill can be made to make someone get out of their depression, but ridiculous to think a pill can make someone fall in love?

 

[Verbose]

there is a reason. There is always a reason. People oft choose to ignore these reasons.

And when having found the original reason, it turns out to be rather trivial, and the depression is in fact the outcome of a long process of self-perpetuating downward spiraling?

Most depressions I've observed have been of this variety. I think you place too much faith in a causative agent/event (some kind of binary situation on-off/not depressed-depressed?), when depressions tend to be a drawn-out process.

Or I suppose one can just kick the antidepressants and go back to that time-hallowed self-medication against anxiety known as drink!

 

[Neomega]

Or I suppose one can just kick the antidepressants and go back to that time-hallowed self-medication against anxiety known as drink!

I know alot of alcoholics that are also on anti-depressants.*

They also tend to be over-dramatic, overbearing, and public embarassments.

Lonely people.

Whatever is your poison. just make no delusions that drugs are an escape from reality. Whether they be manufatured by the Gotti family or by Merck.

*Notice I didn't say I have alot of alcoholic friends, that are also on anti-depressants.

 

[Kozmos]

Or I suppose one can just kick the antidepressants and go back to that time-hallowed self-medication against anxiety known as drink!

I'd rather risk becoming an alcoholic then a pill-popping junkie

 

[Neomega]

I'd rather risk becoming an alcoholic then a pill-popping junkie

That's only because Paxil and Prozac have not been advertised amongst women in bikinis partying on the beach.

(give it time,it will happen one day, I am sure)

 

[Verbose]

I know alot of alcoholics that are also on anti-depressants.*

They also tend to be over-dramatic, overbearing, and public embarassments.

Lonely people.

Whatever is your poison. just make no delusions that drugs are an escape from reality. Whether they be manufatured by the Gotti family or by Merck.

Sure, but here's the sting in the tail:

At which point should whatever anxiety disorder (whatever the cause) be attributed to something the individual can be expected to "deal with" on his own, and at what point do we recognise that society is screwed up to a point that individual malaise is not only a sane reaction, but in fact unavoidable? You can't tangle with macro-economics and hope to win as a single individual. Is this a matter of inidvidual weakness or of super-individual social factors? Some people might be just the lubricant the system needs for smooth operation.