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What government is the best?

Discussion in 'Civ1 - General Discussions' started by Theov, Jul 19, 2009.

  1. Fanatic Noob

    Fanatic Noob King of Noobism

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    Well, I wanted to give new try to test despotism in practice again (the unrest problem), but I remember it was a bit problem with many cities. So JS Bach was great, also Cure for Cancer later. Also having marketplace + bank everywhere and good amount on luxury. Keeping also many units help, and they build fast on despotism, need no support also which bost city production also compared to other govs. So barrack selling economy was more effective on despotism also when cities had nothing better to produce.

    Yours avatar tells the same ;) I think I will take science advisor from this band when I will be able to change it if it is also not reserved by someone :scan: :lol:

    About other thing related to Civ1. Does anyone have problem to run it smooth (DOS version) on Win7+DosBox? For me it is damn slow on dualcore @2.6GHz, so I think I will have to use windows version, CivNet, or old but good Amiga AGA version on Amiga Emulator (winUae). Dos and Amiga version have more old school graphics (I feel it is bit better than win versions).
     
  2. Whelkman

    Whelkman Phantom Taxman

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    Are you running at the default 3,000 cycles? If so, yes, it's pretty laggy. Up it to at least 10,000.
     
  3. Fanatic Noob

    Fanatic Noob King of Noobism

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    Thanks, it worked. I had set cycles to auto.
     
  4. Whelkman

    Whelkman Phantom Taxman

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    cycles=auto is fine and does what it says for some games but doesn't with Civ. Ctrl F11 and F12 adjust cycles down and up on the fly. You can also make per-game config files. If you only play Civ with DOSBox you don't need to worry about any of this.
     
  5. FaLiar

    FaLiar Chieftain

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    In my early years, I used to play in Communism, but later i prefer democracy.
     
  6. Fanatic Noob

    Fanatic Noob King of Noobism

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    Communism is good if you want better progress than in despotism, and you dislike by any reason democracy or republic.
     
  7. jaxck

    jaxck Chieftain

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    I vote for REPUBLIC.
     
  8. Fanatic Noob

    Fanatic Noob King of Noobism

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    Republic is somewhat good. But it have the same advisors graphics as democracy unfortunately.
     
  9. Alkaban

    Alkaban Chieftain

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    Despotism FTW! :joke:
     
  10. tupi

    tupi Chieftain

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    childhood: despotism usually. Wow, I can change my gov! Does Sid advise me Monarchy? Well, no shields, disbanded units... Republic? Sooo bad. (If only I had had The Suffrage...) Democracy? Revolution next turn.
    then: despotism->republic->democracy. IMHO Monarchy is useless on high diff levels, because it gives more food, but not more money for Temples etc. Socialism are some better: low corruption -> more money, but it's anyway not good enough.
    now:despotism->democracy. The conquering of all cities which have no walls and then... welcome to my Utopia for Hall of Fame.

    And it's some interesting about Anarchy: well, there is no science and taxes, but also no buildings maintenance costs. So, It's theoretically possible to maintain as many buildings as we want. I got endless Anarchy on SNES version after city disorders under Democracy. It was strange.
     
  11. kelevra_slevin

    kelevra_slevin Chieftain

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    Always, DEMOCRACY!
    No peace with other CIVILITATIONS, so you can attack them.

    Build Diplomats, make money and buy all enemy units and cities.
    Change tax and luxuries rate, so you can have more happy people in city.

    Good luck.
     
  12. jordissim

    jordissim Chieftain

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    In my opinion, The Republic or Democracy. The way I play, I usually expand as quickly as I can under either Despotism or Monarchy, then as I have secured my borders I switch to Democracy. No matter what, then, I NEVER accept requests for a meeting with a foreign nation. I can keep expanding without being overruled by the Senate.
     
  13. jordissim

    jordissim Chieftain

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    BTW, the funniest way I've found to play is to use only diplomats. No military units. Takes longer, but it's a hell of a ride.
     
  14. Tenochtitlan

    Tenochtitlan Supreme Commander

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    The Republic + Women's Suffrage = Despotism on crack!
     
  15. Baudolino77

    Baudolino77 Chieftain

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    I think, the main farmground is a good indicator whether change government between despotism and the other forms.

    If you have many squares of plain, keeping despotism may be good. But if you have many grasland tiles and they are irrigated, the result will be quite impressive.

    Plain irrigated: 2 food <-> city size support
    Grasland irrigated: 3 food <-> 50% surplus - time for a mined hill or a goldmine :king:

    comparison of developed fields:
    2 plains: 4 food, 2 shields, 2 trade
    1 grasland, 1 Hill: 4 food, 3(4) shields, 1 trade
     
  16. Atreju

    Atreju Chieftain

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    I like Democracy and diplomats getting homeless units and taking the capitals of their former country.But often i have Republic and Women's Suffrage, so I can have a big army and lots of trade.Despotism I only have at the beginning...I don't like it much because of the food problem.I only use monarchy, if I have to choose between despotism and monarchy and can stand a bit units that cost shields, because if communism is available I would use it instead of monarchy, because it's the same...only the corruption is equal.
    But if I have republic or democracy I very often forgot it that I have not to speak with the enemies in war...I very often forgot it and then I have to accept peace when I don't want to.Then it costs me a revolution to declare war again...
     
  17. Theov

    Theov Chieftain

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    thanks.
    I think that was the one I was looking for.
     
  18. Petrus Octavian

    Petrus Octavian Chieftain

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    Communism is the death of Michelangelo's Chapel and The Pyramids. So unless other civs have built these wonders, it's the last thing I want. And isn't the only difference between Communism and Monarch that under Communism corruption is evenly distributed among your cities, while under Monarch it's worse the further you get from your capital?
    In my latest game (the only game I've won on Emperor level) I went straight from Despotism to Democracy.
     
  19. cassanata

    cassanata Chieftain

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    I usually try to build the pyramids as fast as possible and switch to Communism. As soon as i have my landmass cleared of other civilizations I switch to Democracy. I avoid discovering Communism for as long as possible as it cancels Michelangelo's Chapel.

    If you do need to go to war for some reason the pyramids are handy as you can have a revolution, break the treaty and it lets you switch to Democracy straight away.
     
  20. BMacklin

    BMacklin Chieftain

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    I always found myself sticking with Despotism. I don't know why. Usually late in the game when I was ready to change I was already mired in wars, and switching to other governments caused population unhappiness.
     

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