What is going on in the UK?

[EnglishEdward]

Strange, I thought that the American Revolution was supposed to have occurred because the colonies didn't like taxes imposed by King George III.

 

[Klaus Hergersheimer]

Jersey is NOT part of the UK

Government of Jersey

Learn about Jersey's relationship with the UK and EU

www.gov.je

well I see the domain has a .je so I'm guessing it has little to do with what happens at any .uk domain

Is that about right?

 

[Kyriakos]

"What is going on in the UK" indeed, apparently lots of "newspaper" (if you can call some of them that) sites from the UK now demand not only that you accept cookies to read a single article, but also to give them your email.
What's the purpose of this?

 

[Clubber Lang]

Listening posts next?

Live facial recognition cameras planned for every town centre in the UK​

UK citizens to be watched like insects in a clear sealed jar for the govts pleasure...

Government plans to expand facial recognition technology and biometrics to catch criminals makes the lead in the Daily Telegraph. Under the proposals, the paper says the police will be given wider access to Britain's passport database, allowing officers to compare photos of crime suspects from CCTV, doorbells and dashcams against the facial images of 45 million people.

The Policing Minister Sarah Jones tells the paper that the technology has already taken "thousands of dangerous criminals off our streets".

But it also quotes the campaigner, Silkie Carlo of Big BrotherWatch as saying that an expansion would turn Britain into an "open prison" with citizens at risk of "misidentifications and injustice".

Consultation launched by the U.K. Guv to listen and I.D. voices and watch everyones emotions, style of walking, clothing, shoes, hats, bags, vehicles etc...

Reading your emotions and studying the way you walk and talk in the street: Draconian cameras police want to use to ID criminals and prevent suicides​

Police could use street cameras to read our emotions, identifying criminals by their eyes, voice or even the way they walk.
Ministers launched a consultation yesterday on emerging technology that analyses 'motions and emotions' and could help catch criminals, prevent suicides and find missing people.

Under the draconian plans, which critics fear could usher in a 'surveillance state in everything but name', the Home Office is consulting on the use of technology which 'analyses the body and its movements to infer information about the person, such as their emotions or actions'.

In the 10-week consultation, officials are asking the public whether police should be allowed to use such 'inferential technology'.

In a suggested example, CCTV cameras at a suicide hotspot could send an alert to a police station when an individual 'repeatedly paces the area'.

Other examples of biometric technologies under consideration for police use include voice and iris recognition.

Additionally, police could use CCTV cameras to perform 'object recognition' searches, looking for suspects by their clothing, bags, shoes or vehicle.

Keir Starmer is keen to ramp up the use of facial recognition cameras across the country in cities, towns and even villages and is seeking a new legal framework for the use of the technology. Limited facial recognition is already in use across several forces.

Under the consultation, the public is also being asked whether police should be able to access wider government databases, including passport and driver's licence images.

Civil servants are working with police to establish a national facial recognition system which will be capable of searching a range of databases including custody images and immigration records.

Crime and Policing Minister Sarah Jones said: 'Confident, safe, and consistent use of facial recognition and similar technologies at significantly greater scale requires a more specific legal framework.

'This will ensure law enforcement can properly harness the power of this technology whilst maintaining public confidence.'

The plans have raised further concerns about the erosion of civil liberties and follow Labour reforms such as digital ID cards and scrapping jury trials.

Former Shadow home secretary David Davis said the technology to read emotions was 'a long way off'.
But he added that giving police access to government databases 'would be the framework of a surveillance state in everything but name'.

Yesterday, the Association of Police and Crime Commissioners separately raised concerns about retrospective facial recognition technology – where CCTV or doorbell camera footage from crime scenes is searched.

The APCC said: 'These technologies are increasingly invasive and sophisticated. If they are to gain the trust and support of the public… they require robust and independent assessment prior to deployment, meaningful oversight and accountability to the public when things go wrong.'

Police plan to use cameras that read emotions to help catch criminals

Ministers launched a consultation yesterday on emerging technology that analyses 'motions and emotions' and could help catch criminals, prevent suicides and find missing people.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Big Bro U.Kay -

Big Labour is watching you: Fury at plans for blanket facial recognition cameras in Britain - as Starmer pushes ID cards and scraps jury trials​

Big Labour is watching you: Fury at facial recognition cameras plan

Ministers are seeking new laws about the use of the technology that could pave the way for a major expansion, putting cameras in every police force area.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The Labour Govt is going to bull-doze through live mass facial recognition survelliance of the entire U.K. population, flawed or not -

Calls for review after technology found to return more false positives for ‘some demographic groups’ on certain settings

Home Office admits facial recognition tech issue with black and Asian subjects

Calls for review after technology found to return more false positives for ‘some demographic groups’ on certain settings

www.theguardian.com

Labour wants to ramp up facial recognition. What if our data ends up in the wrong hands?​

We know from recent hacks, and even the Snowden revelations, how vulnerable information gathered is to theft and misuse

Labour wants to ramp up facial recognition. What if our data ends up in the wrong hands? | Simon Jenkins

We know from recent hacks, and even the Snowden revelations, how vulnerable information gathered is to theft and misuse, says Guardian columnist Simon Jenkins

www.theguardian.com

 

[Samson]

Listening posts next?



UK citizens to be watched like insects in a clear sealed jar for the govts pleasure...

Consultation launched by the U.K. Guv to listen and I.D. voices and watch everyones emotions, style of walking, clothing, shoes, hats, bags, vehicles etc...



Big Bro U.Kay -



The Labour Govt is going to bull-doze through live mass facial recognition survelliance of the entire U.K. population, flawed or not -

I have said it before, burkas should come into fashion for everyone.

 

[*CoughLies]

I have said it before, burkas should come into fashion for everyone.

That's why they're getting banned "everywhere". When they say criminals they mean lil ol' ladies saying prayers in public & enemies of the state. Everyone should re-watch that movie.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

That's why they're getting banned "everywhere". When they say criminals they mean lil ol' ladies saying prayers in public & enemies of the state. Everyone should re-watch that movie.

I'm sure once they've finished banning trans people from every organization and space they'll move onto this

 

[Clubber Lang]

So in the game 'Democracy III' (Vanilla) these are the law and order options, in the real world Keir charmer Starmer so far has opted for* at max settings -

Crime and Punishment :

• Alcohol Law
• Armed Police
• CCTV Cameras [FACIAL RECOGNITION]*
• Community Policing
• Curfews
• Death Penalty
• Detention Without Trial
• Gambling
• Gated Communities
• Handgun Laws
• ID Cards [HEAVILY ENFORCED]*
• Intelligence Services
• Internet Censorship [ALL TRAFFIC MONITORED]*
• Jury Trial [MOSTLY SCRAPPED]*
• Legal Aid
• Legalize Prostitution
• Narcotics
• Police Drones [MAX FUNDING]*
• Police Force
• Prisoner Tagging
• Prisons
• Private Prisons
• Racial Profiling
• Race Discrimination Act
• Speed Cameras
• Tasers
• Wire Tapping

 

[EnglishEdward]

I'm sure once they've finished banning trans people from every organization and space ......

It seems the Women's Institute has just decided to do that.

Women's Institute to stop offering trans women membership

The National Federation of Women's Institutes said it made the decision with “sincere regret”.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[EnglishEdward]

And now the Labour party itself is doing the same.

Trans women to be barred from main Labour women’s conference in 2026

All delegates will be able to attend fringe programme as party tries to find compromise while complying with supreme court ruling on gender

www.theguardian.com

 

[Cloud_Strife]

The message is clear: don't be trans in britain because we're being mandated our of existence by anti trans freaks

 

[EnglishEdward]

I do not approve of that centrally imposed legalism.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Well it's happening and i fear for trans people's safety, rights and employability in the uk

 

[Kyriakos]

Tbh, would there be any point in trans people being part of Keirlabour?

 

[The_J]

Moderator Action: Thread derailment deleted. Please carry on.

 

[NovaKart]

It looks like the Supreme Court’s ruling was really far reaching in that even organizations like the Women’s Institute can’t include women over their own desire to do so.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

It looks like the Supreme Court’s ruling was really far reaching in that even organizations like the Women’s Institute can’t include women over their own desire to do so.

Afaik i think it's the constant threat of lawfare from anti trans people that is making them fold

 

[EnglishEdward]

When I was young, in the English language, the descriptors of
gender and biological sex meant very much the same thing.

Gender was merely the polite word for sex which was considered a little crude..
Although sex could also be a noun and verb in a way that gender wasn't.

However due to the pro trans movement their meanings have diversified.

The Women's Institute could simply change their rules on membership
to admitting by gender rather than by biological sex if they wanted to.

My context is that I believe in democracy and that democracy works best bottom up.
So in my opinion each local women's institute should be free to make its own decisions.
The situation whereby the central government dictates to the national WI and the national
WI dictating to its branches contradicts freedom of association and the democratic principle.

The current situation had arisen in part as a consequence of pro trans lobbying on top down
rules that annoyed many people until they responded by top down anti-trans regulations.

As far as I am concerned the fewer laws, high court decisions and policy codes etc the better.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

The current situation had arisen in part as a consequence of pro trans lobbying on top down
rules that annoyed many people until they responded by top down anti-trans regulations.

Literal abuser logic here

"You made me hurt/discriminate against you"

Gross

If your life is so good that the biggest issue in your life is that trans people are being included when they've long been excluded, marginalized, killed and remived from society, life and history then you have some real problems that can only be dealt with by extensive therapy

 

[Manfred Belheim]

I can only dream of having a life so good that I require extensive therapy.