What is the US up to with regard to Iran?

ever read "The Life and Strange Surprizing Adventures of Robinson Crusoe, of York, Mariner, Who lived Eight and Twenty Years, all alone in an un-inhabited Island on the Coast of America, near the Mouth of the Great River of Oroonoque; Having been cast on Shore by Shipwreck, wherein all the Men perished but himself, With An Account how he was at last as strangely deliver’d by Pirates." ı did in the form of a mercifully short Robinson Kruzo 3 and a half decades back . r16 at his average best , but ı understand ı was actually good a couple of times like back in the day .


contains stuff from NASA finding the tripods to Adolf to what's not happening in Yemen . (Oh , had problems with the USB which means this was mostly supposed for September 30 ...)

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the delay though has a bonus effect . For one , this NASA guy who says they will find Alien life in 2 years time but the world is not ready for it ! Like Copernicus time , man ! Like in two years time probes on Mars will dig a hole , reach water and encounter a bacteria . And this will be like a total revolution . ı remember the TV anchor who had this fever or whatever when presenting the same back in Clintons' times , a meteor from Mars in the South Sole with amino acids . She still looks nice , regularly in the newspapers compared to her two daughters she had since then , one of them already a fashion model or so .

oh-kay , let's bite the NASA "bait" . Say , there are 10 people in CFC who read the relevant space thread and NASA announces they now got an amobea or whatever . One of us will be "Yeah, right. Whatever." Am pretty sure that will be me . The remaining 9 , dear CFC people , one of you will be overcome with grief and jump of the window , one will be overcome with joy and overrun by a car as you were running naked in the street , two will go under a sex change operation (or one will have them both) , one will die out of alcohol coma and all the rest of you will be plundering supermarkets . As NASA wants you to believe the practically godless 21st Century can not accept the Earth is not the center of the Universe . Zealots would still remain , true , but like what can they do , when ISIL itself like fizzled in an heartbeat or something ?

and well , ı wouldn't know where to add and subtract if ı was to totally "fix" it , so here comes the post for September 30:

it's really the Stuntwoman's fault , really , this decaying in discipline , this "Auftragstaktik" while they should have waited for the natural sequence of things . ı come here , ı announce ı refuse half of the machinesations in Plauguises or however you spell the word , start with Darth Bane , end with Sidious ascendant for the Rule of Two , this is the way to read , right ? The Star Wars Galaxy has a million settled planets or systems and whatever , why does Naboo have to have galactic scale plasma reserves ? Which is by the way the LPG or natural gas for the SW universe or something . More so , just discovered because galactic capitalists will have to come and ruin Naboo with corruption because soon galactic scale wealth will be flowing in . Let's get this straight : Naboo humans are invaders and stuff but of a long time ago , they have settled into less than perfect harmony or whatever with the Gungans and they would have managed to investigate what was laying under a city or two of theirs long ago . When the Gungans collect plasma from plants as we might collect oranges from a tree ... They , the both sentient races of Naboo are self reliant , which gives them Humans a right to help the refugees and field a tiny starfighter force for like a couple of millennia and spend their days with arts and tons upon tons of silk . Which makes the Trade Federation blockade an injustice , because as we all know in our world nobody sees occupation of an oil country as injustice ...

trade Federation chooses Naboo 'cause they are like successful without licking Neimonadian shoes . If the two bit Naboo is made to pay the not so extravagant shipping debts with its Humans (elite as much as the Humans of the Core) the two bit of a two bit worlds in the Rims will be more than willing to do . Then , well , the Administration . Palpatine does not make kings , he doesn't choose Padme as the Queen , while she is the mayor of Theed . What's this , playing space Barbie's space dollhouse ? She is obviously raised as a queen , with like 3 like identical maids who like each learn to fight and even talk as the Head of the State , with a tent of a gown to hide exact body sizes and face painted with a gallon of make up ? Actually not 3 by counting the names of Eirtaé , Sabé , Yané , Rabé and Saché and a 6th , too , now that when Padmé is an handmaiden there has to be a Queen . Yeah , Panaka invents that in a minute because Padmé is a loser pasifist wet behind the ears , having no idea she needs protection ? No , it's preparation starting like when she is almost Jedi like "chosen" into politics .


so that she can arrive , do her stint and leave , to live her life . Only if the current Head of State is not exactly liked , it's a referandum or whatever and a new one is elected if the votes go that way . Just a modified version of a galaxy wide tradition . In which kids yet unsullied with the attractions and depressions of adult life feel what's right and what's wrong and call for action are given a voice . Oh yeah , Bail Organa sends Leia Organa to the Galactic Senate at 13 or 14 with the buns his famous friend Senator Amidala used to have and this will not be noticed ? Like her successors at Theed , both child queens(?) do not let Padme go and make her their Senator at the Senate , with Royal ships , some of them even armed ? (Padme's success leads the entire Naboo to think they should have kids at the helm in a revolving door type thing as a dark cloud descends across the galaxy and a civil war is ever more likely . With the Royal Yatch in Phantom Menace still available only for the Queens , without a single popgun against the astreoids and meteors , now that Queens are still kids and they will not be allowed the means for Space Combat and stuff ... )

with such stuff then ı go onto the nonsense part and call names about the idiot who will become the next Saudi King , a startling or something connection with the "peaceful" Qatar , you know , of global natural gas reserves and just one city . "Blockaded" , too . ı will not let this pass ; Naboo funded Mandolorian Jihadis like when ? Naboo supported regime change in Tatooine ? Even better where are the Saudi spacehulks , so that people can arrive (and if they are man enough to face the might of Prince Mega BS) they can down the droid control ship ?


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and this is only when them aliens are like supposed to engage them Saudis in ground combat and disperse "Brigades" into the desert wind . Like not real , not my responsibility and whatever . They are spoiled , they are spoiled by the Stuntwoman ! Thanks to Al Crusading though , they quickly added that the Houthis were occupying the Saudi for months , a thing that weirdly happened without B-52s carpetbombing them to sky in a million pieces . And not the 72 hours that followed Yoda , cube in a baloon and good old T-65 . Elsewhere some guy (longstanding member but few posts) claims the USN has been this unlucky victim of this joke since at least 1950 , with regular observance of the 10K kilometers per hour stuff ; the Nimitz affair being a facsmile or whatever of the usual fare . Whether that implies the 2014 affair happens because the American tech has finally improved to be up to the task , ı can't tell . Enterprise fielded the first electronically scanned arrays in the 1960s , wouldn't it be able to distinguish a row of cubed balloons ? At least not much reaction to me in that thread over there elsewhere . It's amazing when people can not call you an idiot , when doing that would imply that they were calling some Republican Senator an idiot by replying to your post , let me tell you . Also assures the New Turkey bid to build housing for 1 million people in Syria they are going to conquer with America will not be awkward by being connected to this thread or whatever now that it would be like Europeans giving 23.5 billon Euros to save New Turkey construction companies to keep refugees away . Now that newspapers tell they are scared of New Turkey and ready to offer the money . And not the Saudis giving 26.5 billion dollars to save their brigades . Having this piece after reading the newspaper article about the mentally "troubled" kids like Thunberg and their detractors like Trump , ı can foresee yet further trouble . Stuntwoman's fault , it would have never happened but she like poisons the environment like a Sith and she spoils the aliens , too . Darth Disciplinewreckerious , anyone ? And yes , ı won't be allowed to have the Grand Army of the Republic either , Acclamators from Kuat loading a million on Kamino ! Can ı at least have a division of Spacemarines ?


totally approve and full marks for the early history of Darth Maul , though . Vader lives , Maul is dead . Also finished han Solo on a stardestroyer , nice for its genre but wrong . Death Troopers are standardised Grievouses , humans accepted .

(good old Houthis also help by claiming they started the attack 5 months ago , might have captured them Saudis in August on the anniversary of the "grand offensive" of Kemal to pass the muster and might be telling only now or whatever . Saudis also help by announcing some general , the chief bodyguard to King has been shot dead over a personal dispute with a friend of his , after he was removed by Mega BS and the assailant is dead too . See , nobody will believe me , even when ı will park a mile long stardestroyer in orbit -on prime time , too .)


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with this everfitting image ends Monday's issue . Took a risk , if you will (for once ı had a simultaneous USB portable drive issues ı was checking some aviation site -even if they were probably) unrelated and saw my depiction here is not fully upto date . The guy links a pdf file from 1956 in which CIA is accused of playing games for some yet unknown reason . Turns out the "speed" is 10 000 knots (18 500 kilometers per hour) as some company is offering an undefined method as radar training aids ; they can also turn right or left . Nothing short of a ballistic missile would provide such a thing , meaning they are electronic stuff that would hold only on the radar screens of the trained personnel . Presumably for the coming SAMs with nuclear warheads in ABM business . Even the Battle of Washington of 1952 mentioned . Lights over DC ... Happens only because the runway at the nearest USAF airbase is being resurfaced . Cowardly Aliens only then can dare overflying the American capital as the American interceptors are based 40 miles away , not 4 . And some experts would have seen through the ruse immediately but they couldn't find a staff car or have funds cleared for a taxi ride .


even a CIA page from its website . From which you would learn CIA has always failed to convince people , especially in the early days and maybe 50% all early claims were CIA's own U-2 flights or some similar conclusion . One is like impressed with the "fear" that grips people that whatever happens in the sky might fill radar scopes before a first strike , that might decapitate American leadership , which happens to be a thing you won't be reading that full on the CIA website though .

the aviation site was useful otherwise , too . From a different thread that quickly went over my head , due to my decidedly limited range of philosophy and and that jazz , ı learned we can sleep easy as the first image of any aliens outta there to see of our race will not be Adolf . As those first ever TV signals from the 1936 Olympics would be weak in power and a lightyear is a reasonable distance that any TV signal would travel before being swamped in the static of the Big Bang . Aliens , aliens . ı was randomly checking and ı just skimmed across the whole Colonial Marine handbook thing that came after Aliens , the movie . Nostromo would apparently be doing 0.42 lightyears per day . ı drive people mad with random nonsense after nonsense ? Which helps a lot , if people will not be hearing anything you are saying anyhow .

randomly reading , too . An Osprey piece on the SR-71 . "Indeed in the early 1960s, when Kelly Johnson allocated the Lockheed internal build numbers, or Article numbers, to the SR-71, he was so confident that the aircraft would remain immune from enemy interception for 40 years, he sequentially began numbering them from 2001." The author is an expert on the type , he might as well be a member or whatever of the site elsewhere and he would be like wholly justified to call me permabanned and whatever (if ı couldn't be shot for good) . For something as simple as SR-71 obviously reads Skorolnyi Razvedchick and any Russian members would please fix the spelling for me ? And then he lists 4 or 5 cases , one of them so bad that the USAF has not even bothered to make up an excuse . This after the loss of the CIA A-12 or that Vietnam mission that brought shrapnel from the SA-2 embedded on the airframe . This is PR becoming history , in a wrong way . Kubrick's movie 2001 is 1968 , the book is obviously earlier . Now that ı have a Bill Gunston/Mike Spick book that has the picture of Lockheed interceptor for Mach 4.5 , there is no way Kelly Johnson thinking of 2001 the year , it's just F-12 is way more futuristic than F-103 or 108 and should get the nod from Pentagon . SR-71 didn't last that long in service anyhow .

past , now and future helps one to keep his sanity , especially with stuff happening for real , elsewhere but not due to me . Hundreds of Saudi armoured vehicles can not have been destroyed , not at all , if the Houthis say most of their prisoners are Yemeni contract fighters and like it's only a couple which they set on fire , with no need to hurry on their part , with like matches after they were all abandoned . Oh why , you say fire in the Saudi rail center and ı say Republic Commando with a full rant on how some accident happened and people died and those names given to the court as officials in charge are wrong , because New Turkey is very smart even when all the courts are New Turkey . Also an ability to not to jump into conclusions . The murder of Kaşıkçı by the order of the Saudi Crown Prince is the most important event of the 21st century , second only to 9/11 is a true statement -if you read it as Americans attacked . Congragulations to Mr. Kaşıkçı , now he will also be killed by the International Criminal Court , in my long running reference because a case should start today against the Saudis as the claims are that Saudi general was killed because he knew too much about the murder ... because ı would say Kaşıkçı was one of the masterminds of 9/11 , in case you will doubt America ran that whole show by itself anyhow . America has stopped commanding its troops and minions from the base in Qatar for one day , testing to command from some airbase named Shaw in CONUS . At a time Qatar implies the idiot who will become the next Saudi King has attacked American interests/assets , Mr. Kaşıkçı himself .

and right on cue , Russians decide they are important , too . So , they must see Aliens so they make a smoke ring over Moscow , because this is no longer a monopolar world and Aliens visit them as befits the Russia's strong power . New Turkey on the other hand shoots down a drone , UAV variety . Unknown type , unknown nationality , meaning they learned a lesson since 2015 and will not let anyone to know that Russians or Syrians or Iranians have penetrated New Turkey airspace . The statement is naturally priceless : "It's evaluated that the 2 F-16s might have brought it down with machine gun fire that might have damaged the tail assembly" as the plane lies in a field inside the borders with wings attached and all that . You know in every country footage would be released with planes firing , some flash after the hits and it coming down . But F-16s have scored when stupid r16 said they could not ? Did ı ? And because Russians have figured out they better field some S-800 , we suddenly learn the S-400 is expensive for drone engaments ? ı thought it was walking on water ? But then we now learn what are people doing with the money they steal from this country . It turns the Prime Minister of Lebanon has spent 19 million dollars on a model .

oh pray , is there any way for this post to be dumber ? Sure , some theater commentary . With

You don't say; turks had theatre in the steppes? :p

well , he really knows it very well that Ottomans had theater , with all the players intially being Greeks or Armenians . And women players still later so their roles had to be realised by male actors . This will only bring a rant about how the entire book of Liberating people was written by foreigners busy bringing democracy to the Ottoman lands .

<With Russian connivance, some Greek nationalists under a Prince Ypsilanti went over the river Prut into Moldavia in 1821, hoping to bring about a rising: at that time, Greeks ran the upper elements of the church, even in the Rumanian lands, and of course constituted much of the merchant class and the aristocracy. That revolt failed: the local Rumanian peasants preferred the Turks to the Greeks. But another revolt broke out in the Morea; a clergyman proclaimed the rising, and organized a gruesome killing of the entire Muslim population of Corinth, including women and children, as, with a cease-fire and a safe-passage organized by the British, they tried to leave.

Word of this atrocity reached Constantinople, and retribution was swift. The first absurd mistake was to hang the Patriarch, who had been pronouncing anathema against the rebels, and a good twenty other prominent Phanariots (from the Fener quarter). The next mistake was to massacre the inhabitants of the wrong island. Chios had been entirely loyal. The next-door island, Samos, which produced only pirates and a thin red wine, hated Chios, and in March 1822, at dead of night, Greeks from there landed and pushed a few harmless zaptiyes (constables) into the sea. Word got back to Smyrna, where the governor, one Karaosmanoğlu, ordered retribution. On Chios, this happened, and it might be described as the first Turkish public-relations disaster. Delacroix painted a painting, all raped virgins, villainous Asiatics, and so on.

The European Romantics became worked up. The greatest of them all was George Gordon, Lord Byron. The poet was in his mid-thirties, and, in the Adriatic, was running out of inspiration and money. He was bored of his then mistress, one Teresa, and sent her back to her aged husband in Ravenna. He would show the world that he was not finished, yet, and this is the start of a long process, by which western writers turn up in odd places to stand on barricades and say no pasarán. Byron appeared at Missolonghi, in the Gulf of Corinth, and fell in love with a boy, one Loukas, who screeched and screamed until he was given a coat of gold in which to sit upon his donkey, while his relatives politely removed Byron’s money. Our romantic poet then turned his face to the wall and died, the first martyr of Greek independence... If the Turks had Byron and Delacroix against them, they would have quite a fight. >

the greatest event of the 21st century (even bigger than 9/11) now that they are of the same thing , is the Kurdish Nation State and the destruction it will wreak upon the Middle East . Where and when the truth matters nothing . What's aliens compared to this ? So , don't know where them Americans are ...

all Stuntwoman's fault !



also , supposedly Trump declares the Force is with them and Mark intervenes before that ı could go and say something stupid . Nothing to do with me , you know , these are not the droids you're looking for , trust me . Which turns out next day here to be Mark calling Ivanka Trump's family "fraud" which goes in the way that the New America can understand and they can have a field day with Mark attacking a kid , trolling they are masters of , forced into a place where they can feel they are safe . Instead of a debate about who have service sabers and who do not .
 
I am not sure what feeds your imagination, r16, but surely massacres don't happen due to public relations disasters or faulty intel. They sort of presuppose that your side is barbaric pos. Besides, no need to cry about 1821, nothing much got liberated and Britain-France still protected you when you lost your entire fleet in a single attack by Russia, starting the Crimean war.
Just saying ^_^
 
actually , that's some refined form of trolling of the US , with them repeatedly failing what their Anglo grandfathers used to do with like total wild abandon or something . And why , it follows my titbit of that there is this Darth Zannah , of undecisions or whatever , the end result of which would be more clear if you were to read that Darth Bane triology thing . Which drew a question of whether the horsebandits had any theater , to which ı responded the Saudis would be the best to tell . Am not crying , nor pointing any excessive finger at the Greeks acting superbly as people of the next Greek island who were an hindrance to their trade . And mind you , the British author of the book you are "answering" to says , Kemal like just accidentally chose Ankara as his base , coincidentally finding railway center over there . This being the days railroads were like bread and water to the armies , too . Can't say he would be any fan of the Kemalists ...
 
Kemal accidentally found lots of things. Including soviet money, italian/french weapons and gullible Kurds as allies whom he later destroyed. Turkey has always been such a victim of circumstance :/
 
precisely why one certain idiot can wave the hand and Iranians are like "Come if you Dare" and we are not refugees at your shores , a status we might seriously overload your capacity to handle refugees kind of situation . But then am kinda mystified . The French should have given some amount of tanks and the same amount of tanks to you in 1920s and like there's not a single reference to them around . Do you hear anything ? Promise ı won't prove Kemal also invented the Blitzkrieg , too .
 
The french in 1922-3 are certainly the only reason Turkey is still having european land (Thrace). Anyway, we are too off-topic. This thread isn't about Turkey in the first half of the 20th century. It's the New :)
 
and exactly my point , too . Now that even the North Koreans have SLBMs and like axis of evil exists or something , once again ... In the sense , the aide to the PM who was sacked in 2015 beacuse the peace with the seperatists would not increase the votes becomes an aide to the PM . The not Corrie guy / seperatist politician of Turkish extraction / who bravely stopped bulldozers in the Gezi event while that Corrie person was overrun in Palestine by Israelis and my apologies for not remembering her full name in this moment gets released from prison as the other link to the seperatist peace . And because everybody is laughing at the coincidence , the not Corrie guy has to spend another night in prison . Even better some retired Ergenekon Conspiracy victim gets back to jail for threatening the PM with making a comparision to how Kenan Evren lost everything his family owned in the end . Everybody would say this is top stop the New A-K-Ps , but naturally it's just the "Peace Process" coming back .
 
They have been quite successful with hostage taking against the West.

But I rather think that Vlad Putin would be more likely to nuke them than pay £1.25 billion.
 
They have been quite successful with hostage taking against the West.

But I rather think that Vlad Putin would be more likely to nuke them than pay £1.25 billion.

Arresting a citizen of one of your allies on questionable charges doesn't make much sense, but the Revolutionary Guard isn't responsible to the government and tends to act according to its own agenda.
 
You make it sound as if the UK didn't act illegally by imposing the sanctions.

I didn't say that. I have not studied the legalities of the case.

The government often makes decisions in complex circumstances and the legality is often not known until the final court ruling.
In this context there is a serious problem with the concept of uncapped damages. Once supreme courts start awarding parties
astronomical damages, it merely encourages other litigants to sue the government and thereby further impoverish the people here.

Consider the position of a regulator who has an issue referred to them.

If they decide one way, companies A, B & C may incur a drop in profits.
If they decide the other way, companies X, Y & Z may incur a drop in profit.
There is a third set of players trading on the futures of those companies share prices.

Sooner or late the regulator get overruled in court, and then with uncapped damages, the
tax payer gets stuck with an enormous bill. Affordable regulation becomes de facto impossible.


The UK can afford that amount easily.

No it can not.

The UK is running a massive trade deficit, and the UK government is running a massive public expenditure deficit.

There are a great many graduates with large student debt and little income,
and a lot of people have overly large mortgages and credit card debts.
 
Arresting a citizen of one of your allies on questionable charges doesn't make much sense, but the Revolutionary Guard isn't responsible to the government and tends to act according to its own agenda.

In many instances the Revolutionary Guard is de facto the Iranian government,
what calls itself the Iranian government is merely their facade to the world.
 
I didn't say that. I have not studied the legalities of the case.
So why use phrases like: it appears that the Supreme Court has rolled over?

Sooner or late the regulator get overruled in court, and then with uncapped damages, the
tax payer gets stuck with an enormous bill. Affordable regulation becomes de facto impossible.

The bank asked for 3.25 billion and got 1.25 billion, so the Supremes seem to have capped it, or the bank settled for the lower amount.

The UK is running a massive trade deficit, and the UK government is running a massive public expenditure deficit.

There are a great many graduates with large student debt and little income, and a lot of people have overly large mortgages and credit card debts.

But the bus said that the UK will save 325 million per week by leaving the EU. Sounds to me like you're one of those Leaver Non-Believers.
 
So why use phrases like: it appears that the Supreme Court has rolled over?
The bank asked for 3.25 billion and got 1.25 billion, so the Supremes seem to have capped it, or the bank settled for the lower amount.

Let me explain my perspective.

The Shah of Iran ordered naval ships from tthe UK and paid a sizable sum in advance. When the revolution broke out and they seized US hostages.
the UK refused to deliver the ships and refund the advance payment. To my mind, once the hostages had been released the UK government should
have paid up, but it deliberately obstructed the process. I thought that disgraceful and that the money should have been returned much sooner.
The reason I typed that is because I am not opposed to the principle that moneys be returned or actual losses reimbursed by the UK to Iran.

However here the claim seems to have been based on the loss of profits they would have made if they had been permitted to trade with UK institutions.
This involves an asumption that (a) there would have been trade and (b) it would have been profitable. However neither is certain. There might not have
been that volume of trade, and it might not have been profitable, might even have been loss making. So the Supreme court seems to have been in the
process of awarding damages for a hypothetical profit that was never actually made. I regard this as an exceedingly dubious principle for a court to go along with.
This is to my mind a bit like the absurdity of procurements; where a company that does not get the contract, is awarded damages for claimed lost profits.


But the bus said that the UK will save 325 million per week by leaving the EU. Sounds to me like you're one of those Leaver Non-Believers.

Wrong thread.
 
UK has a long history of being paid upfront for ships/planes/weapons and then choosing to not send anything AND not pay any damages. It even managed to do so in WW2, with Greece, its own ally and the actual first side to have victories against an Axis side (obviously Italy, but still..) :shake:
Had Mussolini not been as arrogant as to invade by land, from Epirus, he could have landed troops by ships, and the UK still wouldn't have bothered answering the call for airplane/naval determent.
 
they would , they would . Churchill might have been a world class scientist but he wanted to be the greatest commander or something and he forced the Greeks into the fight and stuff , because Balkans are a hell to fight and he would send one ship and one plane and you would be invaded by the Germans in the same way .

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it's just , ı don't know , regular . ı have been a fool over so many years and well , ı have kinda no doubts that it's Lockmart's fusion thing that ı have been "rehabilitiated" and why , it seems it's the yearly change of duty in State Department and whatnot ...

so , like a train on a track it comes . The leader of the almost racists is ill , not just because of simple old age but A-K-P can NOT win the elections so some Congregation hero posts that the the political scene must get used to the absence of the leader . US Colonial Office aka Embassy approves that tweet . Gets to eat its words , because as you might have noticed am kinda an expert on how and why US State Deparment consists so many fools , even when clearly they are not that dumb . See , when the leader can't , the splinter from the almost racists can return home and to keep them all almost racists in hand to vote they have to do it in the way almost racists would do , hate the Kurds , make sure A-K-P wins . So , well , as you wouldn't be surprised at all to see this election jihad in New Turkey once again setting to get into Syria to kill some more extra seperatists , America's boots on the ground for today , and future when they all get to kill Turks with the finest of New Turkey . As the Religious Affairs start its own Religion Police with a commission to "watch" TV and Trump dumbs all the ISIL captives on New Turkey , because seperatists are like human and they haven't executed them captives on the spot so long ago , because , well because ... Concerned ?

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ı have finished this The Dark Lord triology and what do ı oppose this time ? Reinforced by a couple others books the first is all that Order 66 business . Apparently first explained by hidden chips , then turned over to very loyal Clones following orders ; 66 being just one order among 150 , 65 being removal of Palpatine if he was a danger and 66 itself discovered by a lovestruck dumb jedi female and ignored as fast the breeze between her ears ... Movies trump books (and while ı trump movies ı will not be oppressive about that) ı think at Adi Ki Mundi's death ; the way the clones acted as one , becoming droids made of flesh . Something in the head acquired during flash training back in Kamino ; one can even make a distinction between the first and later batches . While one applauds Climber and his squad , 66 is not a debating point for clones , right or wrong or let's go have a drink .


and the seperation of Rex , too .

then the marriage thing . ı see all these novels and learn of how everybody politely and pointedly looks the other way . If so , why does Obi Wan asks whether it's Anakin's child ? You know , being the closest person to Anakin , master , brother-in-arms and jedi ? The moment of first sensing of the child's existance should have been enough , even if everybody has been trying to forget midi-chlorians ever existed . Oh , Palpatine knows , say by halftime , overjoyed as he had already arranged for the death of Shmi Skywalker , preceded by a month of torment . But , as he is not aware of Luke on Endor , his own end is not a thing engineered by Sheev Palpatine , Sidious , whatever .


similarly if Palpatine is the evil dictator , then the perfect counter to him is Senator Amidala , from the same planet , different gender , hate vs love and in the name of Democracy which is kinda becoming an evermore laughable word in the 21st century , we will not have Padme as an idiot who has to be convinced Palpatine is conducting a creeping coup , to be the last senator ever to sign some petition .

and this Tarkin - Vader "partnership" , equality , whatever has to be crushed . IV makes it clear Tarkin is like #2 , without the Force maybe , but enough of darkness , now that Sidious ain't no ordinary Sith and he knows it very well that Vader will kill him or something and when they go and do something dumb like destroying Alderaan , the Force will respond and the guy or gal or whatever that will take up the lightsaber to fight the Dark Side will be a novice that might be profitably delimbed by Vader before Vader's death .
 
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