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What is your cutoff for max city population?

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by Falken65, Mar 3, 2006.

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What Population Size Leads You to Turn On "Avoid Growth"

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  1. Falken65

    Falken65 Chieftain

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    Just wondering if there are others out there who have a specific population number in mind for when to turn on "avoid growth".

    What population size do you feel gives you the most production and you know you can safely turn off it's growth?
     
  2. GiantRaven

    GiantRaven Prince

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    I just grow, grow and grow some more.

    I like big cities! :D
     
  3. Crighton

    Crighton Emperor

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    Once in a monthful of bluemoons do i turn on the avoid growth (too many pop isn't exactly a problem when you have the whip, and the city tends to have its own max due to my chosen tile improvements)
     
  4. PublicEnemy

    PublicEnemy Chieftain

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    Agreed. If you have happiness problems then whip them back into happiness.
    I very rarely use avoid growth, I find it counter-productive.
     
  5. Mordraken

    Mordraken Chieftain

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    Same. A better question might be "when do you stop working tiles and use specialists"? (but that might just be for me ;) )
     
  6. DarkFyre99

    DarkFyre99 Prince

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    Usually, that limit is as large as the city can support, given the available amount of food, luxuries, health resources, and available land.

    The sole exception are my production cities. Those I cut off at a population of twenty, replacing farms with workshops. I'd rather have the production right away. :hammer:
     
  7. TCGTRF

    TCGTRF Warlord

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    There isn't any. If I need the specialists, then I reduce the rate of growth.

    It's counter-productive to have a set number at which to do things in Civ4, since every game is totally different.

    Tom
     
  8. Kalleyao

    Kalleyao Prince

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    I never use avoid growth. Let the city grow and whip when it starves.
     
  9. xRei

    xRei Chieftain

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    The only time I find use for avoid growth is when I'm in a war or occupied with some other kind of micro-intensive activity and can't be bothered to allocate citizens manually when I need the city to pump a certain resource(hammers). In that case I turn on avoid growth and hit the production button and let it sort itself out to build whatever the structure is, then revert back to normal later...

    I don't really see the benefit of turning off growth. Your only losing out on extra productivity with less citizens. More is better in this case, unless of course you don't have the health or happiness to support the city size, but down the line that situations always changes and lets you switch back, and as has been stated, whipping your population down is a superior remedy to this problem than just stopping growth. I tend to think of food as a resource as much as hammers.. Sure you mostly use hammers for production, but whipping out some quick units or a cheap structure is alot better than just wasting the food by turning it off imo.
     
  10. Willem

    Willem Deity

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    The only time I use Avoid Growth is when the land is all being worked, but I only have 1 food for a surplus. This is going to mean some starvation at some point since there isn't enough to support another Specialist for very long.
     
  11. Dominus Belli

    Dominus Belli Chieftain

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    I have never used the Avoid Growth option. It seems to me that if you want to stunt a city's growth, you can whip it or you can create more specialists to take up resources. As far as I'm concerned, the bigger the better.
     
  12. BrutalusMaximus

    BrutalusMaximus Warlord

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    My avoid growth is starvation and unhappiness.
     
  13. Willem

    Willem Deity

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    BTW, where's the "I don't use it" option? Not a very accurate poll without it.
     
  14. AngryPants

    AngryPants Warlord

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    So true, I never use it. Bigger is better.
     
  15. Funkadelic

    Funkadelic Chieftain

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    If you turn the stop auto growth of the city where is the benefit?
     
  16. PieceOfMind

    PieceOfMind Drill IV Defender Retired Moderator

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    I assume the people who never use "avoid growth" voted for 25? Even if I did turn on avoid growth ever it'd only be when a city is at its health/happiness limit. And that is never a predetermined number like 8 or 12. I don't really understand the point of the poll.
     

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