What is your FAVORITE heroe/Leader/warrior in history?

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What is your FAVORITE heroe/Leader/warrior in history?

Mine is Dom Afonso Henriques - The Conqueror.

For who dont know he was the first King of Portugal, He fougth his own mom to have Portugal, and battled the moors to regain all the territory. He was the master warrior, like the heroe in "braveheart" but didn´t knew how to read lol.

Read his Biography, its a very good text made by a brazilian woman and tranlated, so it´s not Boring

Português: http://www.vidaslusofonas.pt/d.afonso_henriques.htm

English: http://www.vidaslusofonas.pt/afonso_henriques2.htm

Some extracts:

"She doesn't understand her son, a child who, at 13, already shows signs of genius, in the good as well as in the bad sense of the word. At that tender age, he simply ignores the cardinal who conducts the ceremony at which he is to knighted, and proclaims himself a knight. He refuses divine intervention. Just like Napoleon, a few centuries later. Pity that he doesn't speak French, the language of sophisticated folk, so that his gesture would not be left out of the history books"

This one makes me cry of pride:

"It's a mistake to believe that Afonso Henriques does nothing but promote political intrigues, making and destroying alliances. The man is more like a wild animal. He fights alongside his soldiers, fighting as an equal, without any hierarchical privileges. His troops do far more than respect him: they revere him. They will obey any order he gives."
 
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Ramesses II, baby! Woohoo![dance]:egypt:
 
Malborough for his Blenhiem campaign, or Wellington for his entire freaking career :D
 
prince eugene of savoy, winner over the turks at zenta and petrovarada, taker of belgrade, malborough's partner in the victories at blemheim,oudenarde and malplaquet
 
My favorite is probably Che Guevara or T.E. Lawrence.

Ernesto "Che" Guevara was bron in Argentina on June 14, 1928. He studied medicine there and became a doctor, travelling in South America healing the injured. In 1953 he went to Guatemala where he joined the government of Jacabo Arbenz Guzman who was later overthrown in a CIA-sponsored coup. He travelled to Mexico where he met Raul Castro who told him of the situation in Cuba. Raul introduced Guevara to Fidel, and in a 10 hour long discussion at night, Che Guevara managed to convince Fidel to join the communist cause in Cuba. Fidel, Raul, Guevara and 78 other revolutionaries boarded a ship and went to cuba. All but 16 were captured or killed, and those who survived escaped to the mountains and eventually defeated Batista. A few years later, Guevara left Cuba to join the revolution in Bolivia. He was captured in the jungle by the Bolivian government and, before being shot, declared "shoot me, you're only going to kill a man."
 
Spartacus. Gladiators were awesome (having done a few reports/projects on them). Too bad that revolt had such a beheading ending.
 
Li Shimin, or the emperor Tang Taizong, of Tang China. China's greatest warrior-king, and an able administrator as well.

Though the way he came to power was pretty bloody; included killing his two brother princes single-handedly.
 
George Washington, Robert E. Lee, and George Patton.

Robert E. Lee probably elicits the most emotional reaction.
 
Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus.
 
Well, there are a lot of them... But I must pick one, I'd choose either Córdoba, the Great Captain (who did an amazing campaing for the Kingdom of Aragon in early XVI century in Italy) or Hannibal, the great leader of Carthago.
 
Athorilanta! (It can be cracked like YUMBO!)

But for real: Washington!
 
Well, as far as I know the first Great Captain was Alexander.

(lthread jack: do you know who is burried in Alexander the Grape's tomb? Alexander the Raisin.)

He did more before he was 30 than most of the other "Great Captains" like Julius Caesar, Hanibal, Gustafus Adolphus (Sweden), Charlemagne, Napoleon and some add Scipio Africanus (for beating Hanibal) and Sir Arthur Welsley (Duke of Wellington) for beating Napoleon.

Modern Great Captains are a little difficult as they had more men under command, but less responsibility. (Unless you want to include Hitler and Stalin) as they were tools of the state rather than the state itself. Wellington and Scipio were not the state they were generals for, but others were the heads of state. Maybe not Hanibal, I'm not very clear on the political structure of Carthage.

Modern Great Captains include Washington, Lee, Grant, Pershing, Marshall (maybe Eisenhower and Douglas McArthur) for the USA Rommel, Guderian maybe some WWI generals like Hindenberg and Ludendorf for the Germans, Slim maybe Montgomery, Lord Kitchner, probably I am leaving out some Victorian greats, who was at the Sudan? for the British, Amazing how few countries history I know well enough to name any names. The Russians had some very good commanders, Kutsof against Napoleon (General Winter has always been one of their best) I can't come up with the WW2 names right now but that doesn't mean they weren't great. The Japanese in WW2 had at least two, we shot down one in a plane he planned Pearl Harbor but warned against it. And the guy that took Singapore. Might want to consider Chang Kai Check and Mao maybe not great generals but as overall commanders did a lot with not much. I'm sure I am leaving out a lot. Do I have to list Charles De Gaul or Marshal Petain? I left out Patton on purpose, not that he wasn't a very good General, but he commanded what, a Army? In an army with Army Groups. He wan't a great Captain in the sense of a Theater Commander and/or head of state.
 
I admit ATG was very young to be a conqueror, but it was just bad lack of the draw when his father died. It would have Gustafus Adolphus or some other royal if their father had died earlier. Not only did Washington help form a nation but he fought for it. Napoleon on the other hand stole what others worked for during the revolution and declared himself Emperor of the French. So Washington is the best all around leader.
 
Although he did have some rather dubious thoughts about the Native Americans on the borders....
 
Well if you are going that direction, why not Jesus, or Mohamad or Moses or Budda or Confusis or Zoroaster or the guy who invented the Sikh religion, or any of a lot of prophets or charismatic posibly ficticious national leaders (Roulus and Remus for Rome, for example)

There are a lot of non-military Saints, including modern figures like Sister Theresa or the Red Cross founders and operators. The term Leader is pretty flexible.
 
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