Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by Slobadog, Jun 22, 2007.
I think its time we catalog these for future reference.
I myself am now leaning towards a "i don't care" attitude, but, what the heck, let me list my reasons:
1. HRE is put in a game that is already too "WEsterno-centric". why not put in something more diverse, like the Hittites, the Vietnamese, the Poles, the Polynesians, the Moche, the Huns, the Austrians, the Indonesians, or the Klingons? (this is half-joking here, ladies and gentlemen)
2. People say that the HRE is really already represented by France and Germany.
3. I hate the HRE because they get awesome UU.
4. "The Holy Roman empire isn't holy, isn't roman, and isn't an Empire" - Voltaire
Why do i even bother to list these. maybe i should start my own HRE thread.
5. Charlemagne never leaded the HRE
6. The HRE isn't a East-Europe civ
7. The HRE isn't Poland
My favorite reason the HRE is a bad idea--and it's my only reason--is that it creates so many spam threads, like this one.
8. THe HRE isn't Vietnam and didn't invent Pho.
9. Firaxis was too lazy to make a new civ they just took some stuff from a scenario.
10. Creates spam threads.
11. The Holy Roman Empire shouldn't be in, because we already have Rome and the Byzantines, so we already have two Roman Empires.
The Moche must be in! Imagine the possibilities for innuendo and rude phallic jokes...
My favourite reason why the HRE is a bad idea is because it could stand for 'Happy Ramadan Everyone'. OMG MUSLAM CONSPIRACY!!!!!1
And they said they were holy
okay... i'll add that in...
12. HRE could mean "Happy Ramadan Everyone"...
They're basically the Germany of the game, before a few wars, border changes, etc.
They are not roman you idiot. They are Germanic... For idiots, there is a differece between Germanic and German. German is the name the English gave to the people of Deutschland. The titile Holy Roman Empire was because it was Catholic, now guess where catholosism was and is based. Also about Byzantia, leave it alone. I am sick of people saying it is just the East Roman Empire. It is a different entity all together. By your strange logic England is really just Normandy, or lets extend that to France while we're being idiots. Now what adds insult to indury is some people saying that they are also a middle age greece. Yes, there where alot of Greeks, but they weren't just a middle age helenic empire.
The Germany of the game is actually Prussia, which was seperate from the Holy Roman Empire. Frederick the Great anyone. If people want to keep mixing up Germanic peoples and Germany, they might as well put their hand in lava.
I wouldn't be too bothered if the rest followed by the way.
Man, can people just shut up about the HRE, i agree that they shouldn't be in, but still..
Dimdim lights, awesome man. My grandma got chased by ball lighting in Queensland several years back. Also, people won't shut up until you hit them with a stick enought, otherwise they won't understant how stupid it sounds.
Thanks Menzies, i'm slightly annoyed at how many stop the HRE threads there are, but you only need one. And its a game, not some civs constitution.
what im trying to say is IF by HRE they represent the area that mostly constitutes modern Germany its a bad idea. BUT, if they changed its name to Austria, and changed they leader, I would be very satisfied at them having a central european power with major historical influence.
So in other words, because you don't even understand History you learnt when you were 12 you now wish to 'fix' one of the most significant Empires in European history. What you are saying is to just replace it. IT IS NOT JUST WHAT IS MODERN GERMANY! Now, I'm not sure, maybe I've been smoking a bit too much crack over the last few days but, Hapsburg Austria formed from Hapsburg Holy Roman Empire. The Hapsburgs are what made the Holy Roman Empire not Holy. Now, incredibly generic name [with a number at the end], do this little inteligence test. Get an icepick and stab in rapidly into your left leg, have a camera running while doing so and then post it on YouTube. Now your inteligence is inversly proportianol to the number of people who think it was funny. I will post a proper equasion to figure this out soon.
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Well, I don't about the Holy Roman Empire, but if you can justify having both HRE and Germany (Prussia), then you can certainly justify having both USSR and Russia
Not it anyway... The USSR and Russia is like Britain , the UK and England. There is a huge amount of difference here. The Holy Roman Empire never became Germany, Prussia came about from the East and then proceeded to become modern Germany. The Holy Roman Empire dissolved and in 1870 Germany as it is now was united by the Franco-Prussian war. On the other hand the USSR came about directly from Russia. Now do not say that it became the USSR after the communist take over. The name Union of Soviet Socialist Republics came about as a compromise much like Austria-Hungary so they could keep control of places like the Ukraine and Belorus. They changed them from territories of Russia into Soviet Socialist Republics. It was a direct change unlike that of Germany and the Holy Roman Empire. That and the Holy Roman Empire was Germanic not German... [said once more for your enjoyment] ...Germanic is not just Germany, remember that. Stop making stupid comparisons people... really!
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