danjuno
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Spur of the moment thing: What political label do you feel most closely represents your views?
What political label do you think fits you most?
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amadeus
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Default to “conservative” since it’s the most concise way should anyone ask. I don’t like labels in general, and making them longer by adding specifics doesn’t to me make anything clearer, it just opens a window for more possibilities to misunderstand or misinterpret.
Probably a social democrat by instinct I guess? I would go along with most democratic socialist stuff if it's on the table. I vote for the Australian Greens.
So basically I'm afraid to report I have the empirically and morally correct views.
So basically I'm afraid to report I have the empirically and morally correct views.
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Klaus Hergersheimer
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The problem is if you pick a label then others feel you're bound to it. If you don't, you're being evasive and noncommittal.
So the best answer for me would probably be "classic liberal" or "(vanilla) liberal" in a fairly broad, globe-spanning sense. It's a frame of reference for thinking about stuff, but it doesn't take you everywhere, nor should it...
So the best answer for me would probably be "classic liberal" or "(vanilla) liberal" in a fairly broad, globe-spanning sense. It's a frame of reference for thinking about stuff, but it doesn't take you everywhere, nor should it...
Gori the Grey
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Unpigeonholeable.
I dunno. "Left-leaning centrist," I used to say. But with Trump's ravages, it has come to feel nothing is important except preserving the Constitution itself. That could be grounds for calling myself a Conservative! (I wish those who claim that label cared as much.)
Of the choices you give, Social Democrat, I guess.
I dunno. "Left-leaning centrist," I used to say. But with Trump's ravages, it has come to feel nothing is important except preserving the Constitution itself. That could be grounds for calling myself a Conservative! (I wish those who claim that label cared as much.)
Of the choices you give, Social Democrat, I guess.
I am not really political, at least not in the sense of groupings. I could vote for anyone (within reason, eg obviously not people who identify as or otherwise are fascist ^^) who I think has a decent chance of making things better.
And while he clearly isn't available, Chomsky would have been great in a position of power.
And while he clearly isn't available, Chomsky would have been great in a position of power.
Lexicus
Deity
Was an anarchist when younger, became a social democrat because that's "realistic", continued exposure to actually-existing liberalism has pushed me to my vote
Alas
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Alas
Chomsky had deeper ties with Epstein than previously known, documents reveal
The philosopher and the sex trafficker were in contact long after Epstein was convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor, documents reveal
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I'm a nationalist.
Countries should put their own citizens first and politicians should be held accountable for their actions.
Some things should be handled by the state (infrastructure, health care, education, defense) and not the free market.
But other than that - I'm a capitalist at heart. It creates an opportunity for people to express their creativity and make a living.
I also think countries should work together - but the collective should not dictate what the members do (as it happens in the EU).
Countries should put their own citizens first and politicians should be held accountable for their actions.
Some things should be handled by the state (infrastructure, health care, education, defense) and not the free market.
But other than that - I'm a capitalist at heart. It creates an opportunity for people to express their creativity and make a living.
I also think countries should work together - but the collective should not dictate what the members do (as it happens in the EU).
GoodEnoughForMe
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Where is the “gamer” option???
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
idk what i am
i guess economically within the current system i'm somewhere around a social democrat, in that i believe the state does some services (necessities & utilities) better than private companies in a capitalist system, and that the market drives the economy better when it comes to consumer goods. i'm further right economically from what most people would think on this forum. my issue is that most right-wing parties have been wholly consolidated by complacency and conservative interests (in that the purpose of capital is to demonstrate, project & consolidate power, the dream come true for the OG monarchist conservatist movement. the economic right never implements considerations in their laissez-faire policy that would prevent the establishment of a neo-aristocracy. don't get me started on libertarians)
in regards to affairs of applying power in the legal sense (general questions of authority as well), i'm very classically liberal in wanting broad voting rights & free movement, and hold individual experiences in higher regard than most people. problem is they often don't know how to solve it, and blame the wrong people. but i also want a heavily state funded education system and i respect institutions, as well as the qualifications of an educated government. for example, the notion of the american jury model perplexes me. it's like asking to get uneducated people get tricked by sophists. in denmark, most cases legal cases are heavily informed by experts in their field.
structurally, on a long term scale, i see assorted communist positions as being the inheritors of the classical liberal tradition moreso than classical liberals or libertarians or conservatives or what have you, also because i know my history. i don't see the capitalist system as is as being sustainable, and i reckon if stuff doesn't break we'll end up in a system akin to that. it's very vague though. i mostly like communists because they have thoroughly rigid knowledge of how large capital is ruining f everything
one place i'm absolutely unbendingly placed is within the question of the environment, where i'm very radical and think people should suck it up and live with some amends to their lifestyle & production method, including governmental initiative. of course, backed with properly educating people, most would side with discrete subsidies and legal restrictions on a number of productions & products. it's one of those places where i'll get yelled at by some jute farmer over being a hippie city boy but mate denmark is really flat and you can't grow wheat underwater. literally trying to save your goddamn farm
what i vote is basically classical social democrats (in denmark, not the actual party, since they're a austerity-complacency party harvesting votes from the elderly and the wealthy danish middle class), so i'd probably have to square it there to most people. but in a lot of cases, i'm actually quite right wing when it comes to questions like taxation. problem is just that most low tax policies just funnel money upwards. there has to be structural considerations around it.
so i X social democrat, but irt fiscal policy, i'm more right, just has to be overseen by strong institutions that are not prone to lobbyist bullhockey. and no right wing party is offering that. even people that talk to me privately would be surprised, the issue is that the power consolidation is screwing up the whole conversation about how it's good to be business friendly lmao
i guess economically within the current system i'm somewhere around a social democrat, in that i believe the state does some services (necessities & utilities) better than private companies in a capitalist system, and that the market drives the economy better when it comes to consumer goods. i'm further right economically from what most people would think on this forum. my issue is that most right-wing parties have been wholly consolidated by complacency and conservative interests (in that the purpose of capital is to demonstrate, project & consolidate power, the dream come true for the OG monarchist conservatist movement. the economic right never implements considerations in their laissez-faire policy that would prevent the establishment of a neo-aristocracy. don't get me started on libertarians)
in regards to affairs of applying power in the legal sense (general questions of authority as well), i'm very classically liberal in wanting broad voting rights & free movement, and hold individual experiences in higher regard than most people. problem is they often don't know how to solve it, and blame the wrong people. but i also want a heavily state funded education system and i respect institutions, as well as the qualifications of an educated government. for example, the notion of the american jury model perplexes me. it's like asking to get uneducated people get tricked by sophists. in denmark, most cases legal cases are heavily informed by experts in their field.
structurally, on a long term scale, i see assorted communist positions as being the inheritors of the classical liberal tradition moreso than classical liberals or libertarians or conservatives or what have you, also because i know my history. i don't see the capitalist system as is as being sustainable, and i reckon if stuff doesn't break we'll end up in a system akin to that. it's very vague though. i mostly like communists because they have thoroughly rigid knowledge of how large capital is ruining f everything
one place i'm absolutely unbendingly placed is within the question of the environment, where i'm very radical and think people should suck it up and live with some amends to their lifestyle & production method, including governmental initiative. of course, backed with properly educating people, most would side with discrete subsidies and legal restrictions on a number of productions & products. it's one of those places where i'll get yelled at by some jute farmer over being a hippie city boy but mate denmark is really flat and you can't grow wheat underwater. literally trying to save your goddamn farm
what i vote is basically classical social democrats (in denmark, not the actual party, since they're a austerity-complacency party harvesting votes from the elderly and the wealthy danish middle class), so i'd probably have to square it there to most people. but in a lot of cases, i'm actually quite right wing when it comes to questions like taxation. problem is just that most low tax policies just funnel money upwards. there has to be structural considerations around it.
so i X social democrat, but irt fiscal policy, i'm more right, just has to be overseen by strong institutions that are not prone to lobbyist bullhockey. and no right wing party is offering that. even people that talk to me privately would be surprised, the issue is that the power consolidation is screwing up the whole conversation about how it's good to be business friendly lmao
Snowygerry
Deity
Vote Social Liberal - we're the most liberal socialists AND the most social liberals !
So far it looks like a tie between the anarchists and radioactive monkeys, anything can happen
So far it looks like a tie between the anarchists and radioactive monkeys, anything can happen
amadeus
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Has anyone else noticed that centrist is the 8th option out of 15? Think about it!
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The mode choice seems to be Social Democrat, and I don't even really know what that is...
My personal vibe is "social democrat" or "social liberal" is the least inaccurate label to use, based on most reasonable people's understanding of those terms. Which one I prefer on a given day changes like the weather.
I would like to say "centrist" but in my experience that just makes people hate you. I'm guessing because it gets interpreted as "opposed to my ideals in annoying and/or wishy-washy ways", which to be fair isn't wrong.
I could say "liberal conservative socialist" but that sounds like I'm trying to be pretentious or it just gets read as centrist again. It does actually mean something. I'm a "liberal" first in the sense that I prefer to prioritise individual freedoms and rights all else being equal, then "conservative" in the sense of seeking to preserve traditions and what already exists as far as possible, but "socialist" in the sense that where I believe change is warranted I tend to sympathise with socialist ideas and policies.
Australia has a preferential voting system, and a typical Lower House ballot for me is [1] a centre- or centre-left local independent or minor party [2] Greens [3] Labor, with Greens and Labor reversed on the Upper House ballot. I don't really feel at home either among the political left or political right. I used to be a member of the Greens, as I believed global warming was (and is) the most important issue, but grew increasingly distant from the party as I realised the party has other priorities. I've volunteered for local "Teal" independents (socially progressive, fiscally conservative). I've reached out to Labor to volunteer for them but was ignored. I regularly respond to surveys from the Liberals (our main right-wing conservative party, as of the time of writing) generally asking them to abandon their anti-public transport agenda; not holding my breath on that one.
I would like to say "centrist" but in my experience that just makes people hate you. I'm guessing because it gets interpreted as "opposed to my ideals in annoying and/or wishy-washy ways", which to be fair isn't wrong.
I could say "liberal conservative socialist" but that sounds like I'm trying to be pretentious or it just gets read as centrist again. It does actually mean something. I'm a "liberal" first in the sense that I prefer to prioritise individual freedoms and rights all else being equal, then "conservative" in the sense of seeking to preserve traditions and what already exists as far as possible, but "socialist" in the sense that where I believe change is warranted I tend to sympathise with socialist ideas and policies.
Australia has a preferential voting system, and a typical Lower House ballot for me is [1] a centre- or centre-left local independent or minor party [2] Greens [3] Labor, with Greens and Labor reversed on the Upper House ballot. I don't really feel at home either among the political left or political right. I used to be a member of the Greens, as I believed global warming was (and is) the most important issue, but grew increasingly distant from the party as I realised the party has other priorities. I've volunteered for local "Teal" independents (socially progressive, fiscally conservative). I've reached out to Labor to volunteer for them but was ignored. I regularly respond to surveys from the Liberals (our main right-wing conservative party, as of the time of writing) generally asking them to abandon their anti-public transport agenda; not holding my breath on that one.
*CoughLies
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You're ideals are all wrong & meaningless. Accept your Technocratic reality & it won't hurt as much like the jabs or lose your job. I feel bad for the Fascists, they've always come across as modest
Broken_Erika
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Radioactive Monkey is always the right choice on any poll
Evie
Pronounced like Eevee
If you draw a triangle of social liberal, social democrat and progressive, I'm probably somewhere inside that triangle, exact position depending on regionalized definition of those terms, exact political question being discussed, and exact practical considerations that apply, but not entirely happy with any of those three tentpoles.
Broken_Erika
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Also keep in mind, most of these labels meaning changes depending on the country.
PhroX
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I suspect at least some of the hate has come due to some people on the internet who self identify as centrists whos' attitude is that it's correct to pick the mid point of almost every argument and because they do it, that makes them better than people who take an "extreme" position. I've never actually met someone like that outside of online places like reddit and so on, so I'm not saying they're a meaningful movement in any way, but they have given me a certain distrust of the term centrist.
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