So, after not playing for a while, I just recently got back to wanting to play a new Civ game, so I decided to start a BtS game recently. After a bunch of games where I either decided after the fact I didn't like the leader I picked, or ended up in a bad location (how do I play on a long, northern peninsula, with a fairly decent size desert next to me, and the only person who my scout/warrior ran into was Shaka?), I started a new game as Charlemagne (Imperialist, Protective), standard size, continents, epic speed, since I thought his unit looked sort of neat to try, and I like the idea of a better courthouse.
So, as you can see below, I start in a fairly nice spot. 7 floodplains in my cross, and a cow, with a bunch of forests that I might be able to chop and still get good production. So I do a fairly normal start. Build a worker/scout/warrior (since my original scout died)/settler. In my travels, I meet Asoka right below me (his capital is actually right below my second city, since his culture has expanded right next to it). I meet a couple others (Wan Kon and someone else), but I haven't seen where either of them are set up.
So here comes the fun part. I decide, okay, Asoka next to me, sounds like someone who I might be able to axe/chariot-rush. With a bunch of floodplains/forested hills in my capital, I could get good production for the rush. However, when I finally research AH and Bronze working, to my absolute horror, there's nothing to be seen! Okay, slight lie, since there's one copper square in the tundra way up north, but really, it's not feasible to run a settler all the way up there and find some way to connect to my capital. The other fun thing is before that, when I got AH, no horses!
[Ah, this is getting to be a longer rant than I wanted...] Anyways, more exploring, and I basically get to the point below. I've explored almost my whole section, and realize that nobody is around my section (I originally thought Wan Kon was to the left of me, hence my urge for battle). So now, with no resources, here's where you come in. I wouldn't mind having some tips for how to develop this:
(sorry for a slightly bad map, but it was late last night when I got to this point, so I just quickly saved it and am now away from the game)
My main goal now is to probably build another settler in my capital, and go settle due West, either 1N of the cow, or on the sugar. This should cut off the lands from people encroaching on me, giving me probably the whole top section to backfill (since I was told that AI doesn't go behind your lines too much in BtS). (the other BFC I layed out was my choice for another city. Obvious location to grab the pig, fish, and a bunch of floodplains)
The main other thing is tips for what to do with my cities. My capital has 7 floodplains and a bunch forests and forested hills. I was debating at first making it a SE town, but looking around, I don't have too much production centres otherwise (since my only hills are deserts with gold), so I think I may switch it to a production centre (which will still be pumping out settler/worker/settler/worker early on?). Town to the right (pigs, fish, floodplains) looks like an ideal CE town.
One other concern is that town to the south will be terrible until I get a couple workers. It's got so much jungle that it's only +1 food per turn, so it's going to take me a while to grow to size 2 to whip the monument out to somewhat try to fight off Asoka. Once I get some workers to it, it'll be fine, but I may need to pop in a great artist there to not have Asoka gobble up all its good land.
My other worry is barbarians, which I haven't had come into my cities yet, but will soon. With stone in my next border pop (another ~14 turns), would it be an idea to slow down my settler production after maybe one more town, and try to run for the great wall? Or will I probably be too late to get it? I've already wasted some time researching archery (to at least build units stronger than a warrior), so I could just waste a few turns building/chopping/whipping a handful of archers to protect me instead, but then I have to build them, and still will have to deal with some ugly barbs coming at me.
So, as you can see below, I start in a fairly nice spot. 7 floodplains in my cross, and a cow, with a bunch of forests that I might be able to chop and still get good production. So I do a fairly normal start. Build a worker/scout/warrior (since my original scout died)/settler. In my travels, I meet Asoka right below me (his capital is actually right below my second city, since his culture has expanded right next to it). I meet a couple others (Wan Kon and someone else), but I haven't seen where either of them are set up.
So here comes the fun part. I decide, okay, Asoka next to me, sounds like someone who I might be able to axe/chariot-rush. With a bunch of floodplains/forested hills in my capital, I could get good production for the rush. However, when I finally research AH and Bronze working, to my absolute horror, there's nothing to be seen! Okay, slight lie, since there's one copper square in the tundra way up north, but really, it's not feasible to run a settler all the way up there and find some way to connect to my capital. The other fun thing is before that, when I got AH, no horses!
[Ah, this is getting to be a longer rant than I wanted...] Anyways, more exploring, and I basically get to the point below. I've explored almost my whole section, and realize that nobody is around my section (I originally thought Wan Kon was to the left of me, hence my urge for battle). So now, with no resources, here's where you come in. I wouldn't mind having some tips for how to develop this:
(sorry for a slightly bad map, but it was late last night when I got to this point, so I just quickly saved it and am now away from the game)
My main goal now is to probably build another settler in my capital, and go settle due West, either 1N of the cow, or on the sugar. This should cut off the lands from people encroaching on me, giving me probably the whole top section to backfill (since I was told that AI doesn't go behind your lines too much in BtS). (the other BFC I layed out was my choice for another city. Obvious location to grab the pig, fish, and a bunch of floodplains)
The main other thing is tips for what to do with my cities. My capital has 7 floodplains and a bunch forests and forested hills. I was debating at first making it a SE town, but looking around, I don't have too much production centres otherwise (since my only hills are deserts with gold), so I think I may switch it to a production centre (which will still be pumping out settler/worker/settler/worker early on?). Town to the right (pigs, fish, floodplains) looks like an ideal CE town.
One other concern is that town to the south will be terrible until I get a couple workers. It's got so much jungle that it's only +1 food per turn, so it's going to take me a while to grow to size 2 to whip the monument out to somewhat try to fight off Asoka. Once I get some workers to it, it'll be fine, but I may need to pop in a great artist there to not have Asoka gobble up all its good land.
My other worry is barbarians, which I haven't had come into my cities yet, but will soon. With stone in my next border pop (another ~14 turns), would it be an idea to slow down my settler production after maybe one more town, and try to run for the great wall? Or will I probably be too late to get it? I've already wasted some time researching archery (to at least build units stronger than a warrior), so I could just waste a few turns building/chopping/whipping a handful of archers to protect me instead, but then I have to build them, and still will have to deal with some ugly barbs coming at me.