What TV Shows Are You Watching? 8: Streaming Is the New Cable

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Anyone watchin' the new season of WoT? or watch the show at all? I've read the first few books, and while not a huge fan of the series, I do enjoy them as I read them slooooowly. However, there were a few things in Season 1 I found lacking, and pondered whether I'd even watch the second season. Plus, it has been quite some years since I've read the 2nd book which appears this season is primarily based on (although I suspect they incorporate some aspects of the book that I've either not read yet or maybe happened in book 3 - just can't remember). The first epi of season 2 had me eye-rolling a bit, but the season has gained steam. Overall, I think I like it quite a bit better than Season 1. There are still things altogether that bother me, but I'm just acclimating myself to it ..it is what it is. Oh...they changed the actor playing Matt Cauthon. I don't like how Matt is portrayed in the show. He and Egwene are my biggest gripes. Nynaeve is the best character (and actress IMO)...well, Rosamund is always great but she plays Moraine fairly stoicly. Pike is a producer on the show as well, and a big fan of the books I believe. Show is sufficient enough to scratch that fantasy itch, but it is not perfect.
 
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That is almost the first series I thought of when I read that execrable post by Zardnaar.
I've watched it twice(ish) now and I agree that it is a really special show. Shoreh Aghdashloo is exquisite and she anchors a quartet of leading ladies including Frankie Adams, Dominique Tipper and Cara Gee that are just superb. That's without including the fantastic performances of the guys in the show, especially Wes Chatham, Thomas Jane and Cas Anvar. The cast of that show is just fantastic overall. Not too many shows have managed to do what this show does so well. The only things that spring to mind as remotely comparable are Dark Matter and Firefly, which were both excellent, but both of those were cancelled long before they could match The Expanse.
Ah, yes. You seem to be a fan of hers.
 
Ah, yes. You seem to be a fan of hers.
I am, particularly in this show. Besides nailing her role, she has a very unique, powerful and sultry voice, and on top of that, as @EgonSpengler pointed out a long while back, the wardrobe they've put together for her is over-the-top stunning. Like a combination of the Padme wardrobe in the Star Wars PT and Lady Danbury's wardrobe in Bridgerton... with each outfit and accessories more spectacular that the last. She is a great character in the show.
 
I'm just eagerly awaiting Flanagan's The Fall Of The House Of Usher :crazyeye:

Two weeks to go...
 
I've watched it twice(ish) now and I agree that it is a really special show. Shoreh Aghdashloo is exquisite and she anchors a quartet of leading ladies including Frankie Adams, Dominique Tipper and Cara Gee that are just superb. That's without including the fantastic performances of the guys in the show, especially Wes Chatham, Thomas Jane and Cas Anvar. The cast of that show is just fantastic overall. Not too many shows have managed to do what this show does so well. The only things that spring to mind as remotely comparable are Dark Matter and Firefly, which were both excellent, but both of those were cancelled long before they could match The Expanse.
Yeah, my first answer to "What other shows are like The Expanse?" is "Sorry, there aren't any." But that's not very helpful.

I am, particularly in this show. Besides nailing her role, she has a very unique, powerful and sultry voice, and on top of that, as @EgonSpengler pointed out a long while back, the wardrobe they've put together for her is over-the-top stunning. Like a combination of the Padme wardrobe in the Star Wars PT and Lady Danbury's wardrobe in Bridgerton... with each outfit and accessories more spectacular that the last. She is a great character in the show.
Plus, she swears like a sailor.
 
I'm just eagerly awaiting Flanagan's The Fall Of The House Of Usher :crazyeye:

Two weeks to go...
I really liked Midnight Mass. I don't have Netflix right now, though, so this one will have to wait.

I'm curious about the new crime procedural with Jesse L. Martin, but I think this is the next thing on my radar:


I'm not sure Loki by itself is worth subscribing to Disney+ unless you're a nutter, but if you're a nutter, you probably don't need me to tell you about Loki.

Y'know, I don't think I've ever had key lime pie.
 
Y'know, I don't think I've ever had key lime pie.
Key lime pie is a subtle version of lemon meringue, for those with a sophisticated palette. :D
 
Re the expanse, I watched it low volume with closed captions but on a great tv in a good space. I feel like a lot of the dialogue would really hit if I wasn’t reading the punchline seconds before they resume speaking.
 
Re the expanse, I watched it low volume with closed captions but on a great tv in a good space. I feel like a lot of the dialogue would really hit if I wasn’t reading the punchline seconds before they resume speaking.
Earlier this year I bought a set of wireless, noise-canceling headphones to play PC games without bothering people, but I've been using them a lot to watch movies and tv series. I wish I'd thought of it sooner. It's great.

I'm curious about the new crime procedural with Jesse L. Martin
It's called The Irrational, but it's on Peacock, which I just canceled. Oh well. :dunno:
 
Earlier this year I bought a set of wireless, noise-canceling headphones to play PC games without bothering people, but I've been using them a lot to watch movies and tv series. I wish I'd thought of it sooner. It's great.
I've been doing that for years with various headsets. Also, I have this Sennheiser remote thing that has a dongle that you can plug headsets in and sync remotely. But I have an AppleTV and just recently got my first airpods, which connect immediately to the AppleTV.....really nice
 
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I'm terrible with horror stuff on film / TV, but I really want to like the House of Usher. On top of an absolutely stacked cast (not in the Expendables kind of way, but in the "oh them, and them?!" kind of way), it's Poe to boot. One of my favourite Poe stories (admittedly, I like a bunch of them equally).

I mean seriously, Mark Hamill, Carl Lumbly and Carla Gugino? Nevermind anyone else. Man.

On that note, almost done with my Alias rewatch (first time my wife has seen the show). An early work of JJ Abrams, it's surprisingly solid. I'll always recommend it for an early-00s spy-with-mystical-backstory show. Also features Lumbly as a main cast member throughout :)
 
On that note, almost done with my Alias rewatch (first time my wife has seen the show). An early work of JJ Abrams, it's surprisingly solid. I'll always recommend it for an early-00s spy-with-mystical-backstory show. Also features Lumbly as a main cast member throughout :)
Good show. I rewatched the first season a few years ago, and I thought it held up. I'm still mad they killed Francie, though. :lol:

On the bright side, I love that Garner and Garber are still pals:
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Yeah I saw that the other day!

It's honestly wild finding out how much Garber was in - I missed Titanic when I was a kid (not really my film generally), so Alias was my first exposure there. Nothing else was really on the radar of a teenager, hah. But yeah, he's been everywhere.
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Also, on Francie. I still remember watching that the first time around - complete shock for someone who felt like a part of the main cast (especially for the time - this is the era of Buffy and the like, where deaths were very rarely permanent).

I do like that the actress got to play a very different version of herself (Alias is fun for that in general, with the doubling), and I like seeing her turn up in other stuff as a consequence (Ursula in Once Upon A Time, even Brooklyn 99 as Jeffords' wife, briefly).
 
It's honestly wild finding out how much Garber was in - I missed Titanic when I was a kid (not really my film generally), so Alias was my first exposure there. Nothing else was really on the radar of a teenager, hah. But yeah, he's been everywhere.
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I think Alias was the first time I'd seen him, too.
 
I'm currently watching Big Brother, Survivor, and The Amazing Race.

The Amazing Race team that won the first leg received a vacation in Chile. They get to visit a penguin colony.

I'm jealous.
 
Give it a century and a remake of The Crown would likely also be total fantasy.
 
Watching The Empress about Franz Josef and Sissi on Netflix and I must say the royal family got off lightly in The Crown. Much of the Empress is complete and utter fantasy.
It’s still quite enjoyable. Is the second season out yet? Sissi’s story does get dark

The Great is mostly fantasy- deliberately - but also funny and superb.
 
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Watching The Empress about Franz Josef and Sissi on Netflix and I must say the royal family got off lightly in The Crown. Much of the Empress is complete and utter fantasy.

Give it a century and a remake of The Crown would likely also be total fantasy.

Almost all films and tv-series that tell the viewers, that they are based on true events or real/historical characters, are predominantly fabrications of the screenwriters ;)

There are basically two sub-threads to the above:
- filling in the blanks, because the screenwriter does not know what happened between - as an example, two real life characters having a conversation between them alone.
- replacing factual events, quotes etc with your own, effectively rewriting historical facts. Perhaps to create drama, character development or compress a timeline for narrative reasons.

My most despised example of both, is the hit film Bohemian Rhapsody, which distorts and falsifies so many details about Queen's origins, the making of their songs, their tours and especially Freddie Mercury's personal life. It is especially monstrous, because Brian May and Roger Taylor approved the script, fully aware that the portrayal it paints of Freddie Mercury, their friend, is mostly a pr fabrication and simply not true. John Deacon had no involvement with the film whatsoever.
 
Almost all films and tv-series that tell the viewers, that they are based on true events or real/historical characters, are predominantly fabrications of the screenwriters ;)

It may be less so if the historical figure is still alive and actively contributing to the project. Though if they ever did a movie about William Shatner's life while he's still alive, I can guess what kind of treatment he'd give his former Star Trek co-workers. The only ones still alive to dispute his version are George Takei and Walter Koenig.

SF fandom can be a real mess when it comes to setting down things that really happened. People wonder why I dislike Orson Scott Card. There are reasons for that, some of which go back to the early '80s.

David Gerrold was one of the GoHs at a convention I attended. Some whispers went around the hotel that he'd been rude to someone. If so, I can think of a couple of reasons why. Either the person said something rude first, or Gerrold might have been upset about the latest Star Trek tell-all book that did not show Gerrold in a good light, basically calling him a liar about some of the things he said in his own behind-the-scenes books and later when he helped to develop Star Trek: The Next Generation. He may have been wondering just who, among all the people at the convention, had read the book and tool Herb Solow's word about everything.

All I know is that when it was my turn to speak to him when he was doing autographs, it was a pleasant conversation about writing in general, about series where huge time jumps happen from one book to the next, leaving the reader wondering what happened in the meantime. He wasn't rude to me at all.

So who knows? :dunno: My perspective of the guy who invented Tribbles is different from that of other people, some of whom knew him professionally (there are some people who post on TrekBBS who mention stuff now and then).


That all said, one of the worst-ever "historical" dramas is Reign, that abominable mess that pretends to be about the life of Mary, Queen of Scots. The only thing it got right is that Mary Stuart was a real person. Queen Elizabeth I was a real person. Catherine d'Medici was a real person (and the only one worth watching on that show, thanks to Megan Follows, who portrayed her). The rest of it was absolute crap, both historically and aesthetically. The show is notorious for its ridiculous costuming, none of which even pretends to be historically accurate.

I couldn't even bring myself to watch the last two seasons, even for Mary's execution. Though it wouldn't surprise me if they did a GOTCHA! like the showrunners did in one of the series about the Borgias - we thought we were shown Cesare's death, but oops, GOTCHA! He survived being supposedly killed on a battlefield in Viana, Spain, and the last scene shows him wading ashore in the New World with a bunch of other Conquistadores. We were told that no, the guy who died wasn't Cesare, just someone who happened to be wearing his armor and riding his horse.


The actor who played Pullo in the Rome series died recently. I liked Pullo, but the storyline in which he was Caesarion's biological father was just utterly ridiculous. The series events had a frustrated Cleopatra trying to get Julius Caesar into bed, to father a son. Oops, he wasn't interested. Then she tried to order Vorenus to do it. Oops, he wasn't interested, either. So he ordered Pullo to do it, and Pullo was happy to comply.

Mission accomplished. Cleopatra got pregnant and gave birth to Caesarion, who she claimed was Julius Caesar's son, but was really Pullo's son. And at the end of Season 2, when everyone on Cleopatra's side other than her younger children with Mark Antony was supposed to die, Pullo and Caesarion escaped to wherever, and supposedly lived happily ever after (even Vorenus was dead by that point).

The show was canceled, and a good thing. They'd really written themselves into a corner by omitting Scribonia, who was Octavian's wife before he married Livia. Omit Scribonia, and you don't have Julia. Omit Julia, and you don't have Agrippina the Elder. No Agrippina means no Caligula or his sister, Agrippina the Younger. No Agrippina the Younger means no Nero. They really had nowhere to go with Season 3, unless they planned to make up a war between Caesarion and Augustus - which never happened, since Caesarion was executed in real history.
 
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